An Emasculated People are a Slave People
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Khalifa
And when he showed them the truth from us, they said, "Kill the sons of those who believed with him, and spare their daughters." Thus, the scheming of the disbelievers is always wicked.
Yusuf Ali
Now, when he came to them in Truth, from Us, they said, "Slay the sons of those who believe with him, and keep alive their females," but the plots of Unbelievers (end) in nothing but errors (and delusions)!...
Pickthal
And when he brought them the Truth from Our presence, they said Slay the sons of those who believe with him, and spare their women. But the plot of disbelievers is in naught but error.
Shakir
So when he brought to them the truth from Us, they said Slay the sons of those who believe with him and keep their women alive; and the struggle of the unbelievers will only come to a state of perdition.
Sher Ali
And when he came to them with truth from US, they said, `Slay the sons of those who have believed with him, and let their women live.' But the design of the disbelievers is ever bound to fail.and what are the basis to believe that all the above were wrong in understanding the above?
Ayisha
Which bit?
every bit, that exposes the kind of society you want, an emasculated society, intentionally or unintentionally your are advocate for a society where .
"You've got the nigger woman out front and the nigger man behind and scared."Kal jo nazar Ayi beparda chand bibian,
Pocha woh parda tha kya hoa,
kehnay lagi aql pay woh mardon ki parh gaya.. -
that exposes the kind of society you want, an emasculated society, intentionally or unintentionally your are advocate for a society where .
"You've got the nigger woman out front and the nigger man behind and scared."Now what the fatwa you are talking about? ???
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further from asad
4025 Now when he came to them, setting forth the truth from Us, they said, ?Slay the sons of those who share his beliefs, and spare their women!? - but the guile of those deniers of the truth could not lead to aught but failure.Mazhar
For reason/in consequence when he brought to them the eminent reality from Us
they/the inner confidants said, "You people kill the sons of those who have believed along with him and let remain their daughters live";
but the deceptive plans of the deliberate non believers are nowhere except in abandonment/lurch.offcourse there would be some solid reason and LOGIC behind deviating from the translations used by above...
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Ayisha
every bit, that exposes the kind of society you want, an emasculated society, intentionally or unintentionally your are advocate for a society where .
"You've got the nigger woman out front and the nigger man behind and scared."You have decided that about me? I dont think wanting a society where people are treated equally and not dependant on their race, religion, sex or colour is anything like what you have just said, but your mind works like that, mine doesn't.
Kal jo nazar Ayi beparda chand bibian,
Pocha woh parda tha kya hoa,
kehnay lagi aql pay woh mardon ki parh gaya..Bad manners, translation if you dont mind.
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peace all,
I do not consider that an accurate translation of 4025. It is "shame their women" not "spare their women".
Wakas,
I actually tried looking it up on the forum before making the initial post since I remembered reading about this "shame their women" translation, but couldn't find anything. I have looked up the verses now though. Makes sense.
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further from asad
4025 Now when he came to them, setting forth the truth from Us, they said, ?Slay the sons of those who share his beliefs, and spare their women!? - but the guile of those deniers of the truth could not lead to aught but failure.Mazhar
For reason/in consequence when he brought to them the eminent reality from Us
they/the inner confidants said, "You people kill the sons of those who have believed along with him and let remain their daughters live";
but the deceptive plans of the deliberate non believers are nowhere except in abandonment/lurch.offcourse there would be some solid reason and LOGIC behind deviating from the translations used by above...
The difference is only about who said this, here the people, who said this, does not include Pharaoh. What he said is mentioned after it. And in the parentheses is explained because of Prefixed conjunction which shows cause/reason-sequence and effect/consequence. This is told at some other place that they did so because of feel of pride. All such statements were made to diffuse the effect of demonstrative signs that caused a division amngst the elite and to give a strong signal to those who had shown difference of opinion in their reaction.
