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Differences in translation of verse 39:18

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    Mazhar
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    Apparently so -\

    And Ayisha do you not see from his "argument" therein to reveal to you how nudely an idiot is he?

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      Ayisha
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      And Ayisha do you not see from his "argument" therein to reveal to you how nudely an idiot is he?

      nudely?

      I can see what he means Mazhar, it's you that can't. I have great issues with you or anyone editing what God said to give it your own personal meaning and to guide the reader your way. God said HE has explained, so I disagree with anyone putting personal explanations IN it, brackets or not. M. Muhsin Khan puts brackets in the (non existant) hijab verse to mean cover entirely but one eye to see with, which is not what the verse says, but a reader will read it as part of it.

      Please stop speaking in the English of the Middle Ages peace

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        Mazhar
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        I can see what he means Mazhar, it's you that can't.

        "See", in the real sense of the word, his quote again, I had coloured it for convenience of your sight.

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          "See", in the real sense of the word, his quote again, I had coloured it for convenience of your sight.

          yes Mazhar I SAW IT and I still stand by what I said, do NOT EDIT GOD'S BOOK

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            Mazhar
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            yes Mazhar I SAW IT and I still stand by what I said, do NOT EDIT GOD'S BOOK

            At one place you agree alongwith siki with the "edit" but same explanation about same words at another place it is "edit of God's book"? What a judgment!!

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              Ayisha
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              At one place you agree alongwith siki with the "edit" but same explanation about same words at another place it is "edit of God's book"? What a judgment!!

              Please quote my post if you can where you have taken the meaning that I 'agree' with any edit, I have not and never will agree with editing God's Book.

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                Mazhar
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                Please quote my post if you can where you have taken the meaning that I 'agree' with any edit, I have not and never will agree with editing God's Book.

                Placing material in paretheses is for the purpose of bringing clarity in the translation and mentioning the person referred by a pronoun is for the convenience of reader where he may or may not be able to link it with the previous Ayat and it is never called and understood by any one as "editing". Editing is done by some people who substitute the Arabic words in translation, like transcribing an active participle in English translation as passive participle, or a perfect verb as present tense.

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                  Placing material in paretheses is for the purpose of bringing clarity in the translation and mentioning the person referred by a pronoun is for the convenience of reader where he may or may not be able to link it with the previous Ayat and it is never called and understood by any one as "editing". Editing is done by some people who substitute the Arabic words in translation, like transcribing an active participle in English translation as passive participle, or a perfect verb as present tense.

                  You mean YOUR version of clarity to lead the reader along YOUR way of thinking and when Allah says TRUTH no one needs you or anyone else to LEAD them along YOUR way of thinking that TRUTH is ONLY in Quran as Allah has been bringing the message of TRUTH since long before Muhammed was born and the Quran was revealed.

                  When Allah uses Quran He means Quran, that needs no clarifying
                  Whan Allah uses Truth He means truth, that needs no clarifying
                  Whan Allah uses Book He means book, that needs no clarifying

                  If your translation is for the very weak of mind that you would need to clarify the above words for, then they will have a hard time understanding any of it anyway and give up for a more CLEAR translation

                  Quran = Quran
                  Truth = Truth
                  Book = Book

                  simple

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                    Ayisha
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                    Please quote my post if you can where you have taken the meaning that I 'agree' with any edit, I have not and never will agree with editing God's Book.

                    Placing material in paretheses is for the purpose of bringing clarity in the translation and mentioning the person referred by a pronoun is for the convenience of reader where he may or may not be able to link it with the previous Ayat and it is never called and understood by any one as "editing". Editing is done by some people who substitute the Arabic words in translation, like transcribing an active participle in English translation as passive participle, or a perfect verb as present tense.

                    So as suspected you cannot bring a quote where I agreed with any editing and again you made a false claim

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                      http//So as suspected you cannot bring a quote where I agreed with any editing and again you made a false claim

                      Quote from Mazhar on August 25, 2010, 052838 PM
                      Not wasting time, once at five six places he says about "" it is Qur'aan but here he takes as many many "Qauls" and with absolute stupid insistence even does not see the pronoun attached to the last word about this "", and then the following Ayat which says about having been guided, and guidance is given only through Qur'aan.

                      in some places it could be Quran depending on context is what he's saying. he is asking you to explain and all you do is wait till after iftar and call him, and everyone else, stupid.
                      No guidence is NOT given only through Quran, it is given from GOD, so according to your statement now all previous messengers and people had no guidence as they had no Quran!
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                      So you suggest that at some places referring to Al Qaul as Qur'aan is NOT "editing" but in one particular Ayat my mentioning of word Qur'aan as referral by word "Al Qaul" is "Editing of the Book of Allah".

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                        siki
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                        And Ayisha do you not see from his "argument" therein to reveal to you how nudely an idiot is he?

                        If there is one man on this forum that i have seen joining as a decent learner,and then transforming into an arrogant boastful abuser ? it is Mazhar, and i really feel sad about it... what a waste,,,,,,,, yuck

                        siki

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