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Is Prophet Muhammad?s duty to deliver Quran only?: No

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    Raaajah
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    Salaam,

    Guest

    Another deduction that can be made out of verses 320 & 1682 is this Those who hold fast to the concept of Prophet Muhammad?s sole duty was to deliver the Quran and nothing else are in fact
    condemning themselves as disbeliever. I hope people with such thought will reflect on these verses and reform.

    Wonderful brother.

    Guest

    As for this time... well, yes, someone "who understands the system best and is living by the system most steadfastly" and is living with us at this time, should fill that role. That is for every society who wish to live by the system, i think ...

    When read both verses combined, does it give any picture? in your understanding.

    Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah is ever Aware of all things

    ....Remember Allah's blessings upon you, and that He sent down to you the scripture and wisdom to enlighten you....
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    What is this Wisdom?

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      Salaam,

      Guest

      Wonderful brother.

      Guest
      When read both verses combined, does it give any picture? in your understanding.

      2231

      What is this Wisdom?

      Alif Lam Mim.

      These are verses of the Book of Wisdom

      Alif Lam Ra. These are the verses of the wise Book.

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        When read both verses combined, does it give any picture? in your understanding.

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        Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah is ever Aware of all things

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        ....Remember Allah's blessings upon you, and that He sent down to you the scripture and wisdom to enlighten you....
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        What is this Wisdom?

        Peace Raaajah

        The ?and? in verse 2231 clearly shows that the scripture and wisdom are two different things. In fact, scripture, wisdom, and knowledge are all different things.

        Allah clearly says in verse 362 - And the Quran that is full of wisdom. Therefore, scripture (Quran) is loaded with full of wisdom for the seeker. Then the question is what is the other wisdom referred to in the verse 2231?

        This is the wisdom we need to extract the wisdom out of the Quran. This wisdom is necessary to acquire correct understanding of the revelations in the scripture (Quran). Some will have more wisdom than other simply because some has put in more effort and sincerity than others e.g. ranking of prophets.

        Now let?s see who can achieve this wisdom.

        2-269 - He bestows wisdom upon whomever He chooses, and whoever attains wisdom, has attained a great bounty. Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.

        This wisdom allows us to distinguish truth from falsehood i.e. do right and shun bad (evil). One in possession of this wisdom will readily accept the truth in the Quran. They are the winner. Lack of this wisdom will mean discarding the Quran and grabbing hold of falsehood.

        Joseph used this wisdom to shun king?s wife when she said to him ?I am all yours?.

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          siki
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          Joseph used this wisdom to shun king?s wife when she said to him ?I am all yours?.

          Although i agree with most of your post regarding wisdom, but it is a wrong example that you quoted regarding joseph,

          The wisdom did not save him from Zulekha's seduction, Allah's help did.

          12-24 And (with passion) did she desire him, and he would have desired her, but that he saw the evidence of his Lord thus (did We order) that We might turn away from him (all) evil and shameful deeds for he was one of Our servants, sincere and purified

          siki

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            Raaajah
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            Thanks Guest and Siki,

            So siki. what is that Wisdom, which was given to Messenger of Allah along with Scripture and how can we use it now?

            Guest

            He bestows wisdom upon whomever He chooses....

            He has mentioned that he gave it to his Last messenger as we read in above aayt, and to whom he choses, but what about others how can they attain that Wisdom?

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              Ayisha
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              Thanks Guest and Siki,

              So siki. what is that Wisdom, which was given to Messenger of Allah along with Scripture and how can we use it now?

              Guest
              He has mentioned that he gave it to his Last messenger as we read in above aayt, and to whom he choses, but what about others how can they attain that Wisdom?

              by acquiring knowledge.

              Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

              saw that on someone's signature and thought it very wise muscle

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                Mazhar
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                by acquiring knowledge.

                Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

                saw that on someone's signature and thought it very wise muscle

                It is information that tomato is classified as fruit by plant experts, knowledge is that despite classified as fruit it is not put/added in the fruit salad. Wisdom is to know the unexplained/hidden reason why it is not put in the salad.

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                  It is information that tomato is classified as fruit by plant experts, knowledge is that despite classified as fruit it is not put/added in the fruit salad. Wisdom is to know the unexplained/hidden reason why it is not put in the salad.

                  rotfl you are unbelievable Mazhar.

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                    The wisdom did not save him from Zulekha's seduction, Allah's help did.

                    siki

                    Peace siki,

                    I equated Allah help = instant wisdom from Allah. What is you view on this?

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                      Raaajah
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                      Peace siki,

                      I equated Allah help = instant wisdom from Allah. What is you view on this?

                      Rajah

                      He has mentioned that he gave it to his Last messenger as we read in above aayt, and to whom he choses, but what about others how can they attain that Wisdom?

                      I see a slight problem in this statement, that is why I asked you the above question.

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                        From a quranic perspective, AlKitaab and AlHikmah are regarded as one and not two separate things.

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                          siki
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                          Peace siki,

                          I equated Allah help = instant wisdom from Allah. What is you view on this?

                          I should disagree, I think it was some kind of direct intervention of controllers at this stage, who probably flashed some kind of reminder to wake him out of seductive daze.

                          peace

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                            I should disagree, I think it was some kind of direct intervention of controllers at this stage, who probably flashed some kind of reminder to wake him out of seductive daze.

                            peace

                            I agree with this as well.. Most of the time God will not reveal all the mechanism involve between His will of an event and its occurrence. For example God wanted Musa to come to the sacred place to that He could speak to him... He could have just flashed him to come there... But instead, it was a fire on the mountain who was used to attract Musa to this place... This was part of the divine mechanism which will fit the reality.

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                              Raaajah
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                              Wayfinder

                              From a quranic perspective, AlKitaab and AlHikmah are regarded as one and not two separate things.

                              How?

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                                Wayfinder
                                How?

                                http//c0022506.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/2_231.png

                                The word ?bihee? (with it) that appear at the end of the verse, is in the
                                singular mode, in other words it describes one thing and not two. For that
                                reason the words ?Al-Hekmah? and ?Al-Ketab? must denote one thing and not
                                two, unless of course God is making grammatical mistakes!

                                The Bihee is not translated by most translators... the translation of bihee is

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                                  Raaajah
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                                  Salaam Way Finder

                                  What about this How do you see Al-Hikmah here?

                                  http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/2_251.png

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                                    Raaajah
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                                    and this one

                                    http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/2_129.png

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                                      Raaajah
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                                      and this one, I posted them separately so they can be discussed one by one

                                      http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/2_231.png

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                                        Ayisha
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                                        What do you think Al Hikmah is Raj?

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                                          Raaajah
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                                          What do you think Al Hikmah is Raj?

                                          Let us see what way finder has to say? but definitely not same as Al-Kitab, the view of Way finder and certainly two separate things as point of view of GUEST.

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