9/11 Burning Of Quran Must Go On!
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Ayisha
No it does not and no hikmah is NOT sunnah and the hadith are NOT related to Quran in any way, or you wouldnt get contradictory ones at all. Muhammed followed Quran he didnt create his own 'sunnah' that was anything different to Quran for us to follow. Muhammed could not see the future, Quran tells you this, so why would you even consider any hadith that tell you otherwise? The rules are set out in Quran, why would you even consider that Muhammed ADDED his own after being warned not to? How can you believe LIES about a prophet of God you claim to love??
This has been discussed many times in past, and I don't want to start it all over again with, at least you.
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Ayisha
This has been discussed many times in past, and I don't want to start it all over again with, at least you.Did you answer them about why you prefer to follow fabrications about Muhammed rather than what you know for a fact he did say? I doubt that too. This is just another 'I can't answer that question as I am a blind sheep' ploy. Why are you even here?
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george
If I'm so "confused" as you say about "not needing to know arabic to understand the Quran" then what is is the point of having translations of the Quran and how come hadith followers like who speak understand arabic but yet can't understand the Quran on it's own (even though it's) in arabic with using the hadith
Yes brother you are too confused! What kind of argument you are trying to make? it does not make any sense at all.
If there is translation available for Quran , does that means we should not try to study the actual source of it? or if any one cannot understand Quran even after knowing Arabic, we shall not try? your logic is just childish and you behave like one.Why? When one reads a translation of Al Quran, they are actually reading the translator's interpretation of the original Arabic. Thus, mistakes are to be expected. A translation will have the translator's own thoughts/experiences/education/bias/imperfections. By listing the possible meanings of the roots with all of their occurrences & comments on grammar, we allow you to study the meanings and usage for yourself. We hope this project will aid the study of students of the scripture. studyquran.co.uk
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Ayisha
Yes, you can do it, you are free to chose any one is.
And hope some confused minds would have understood that these statements are not contradictory. In fact these statements are from Quran, but it is no use to explain it to an average mind like that of george or his alike.Chapter and verse then.......but i spose it's useless trying to get an idiotic hadith follower like raaajah to answer your questions or to provide proof of what he says. hmm
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george
Yes brother you are too confused! What kind of argument you are trying to make? it does not make any sense at all.
If there is translation available for Quran , does that means we should not try to study the actual source of it? or if any one cannot understand Quran even after knowing Arabic, we shall not try? your logic is just childish and you behave like one.Why? When one reads a translation of Al Quran, they are actually reading the translator's interpretation of the original Arabic. Thus, mistakes are to be expected. A translation will have the translator's own thoughts/experiences/education/bias/imperfections. By listing the possible meanings of the roots with all of their occurrences & comments on grammar, we allow you to study the meanings and usage for yourself. We hope this project will aid the study of students of the scripture. studyquran.co.uk
Where did I say that we should not try to study the actual source of the Quran.
I said you do not have to learn arabic to understand that the Quran is the word of GOD and THAT i am NOT confused about.
Is'nt it by reading translations of the Quran that all non-arabic speaking peoples first learn and as a result dicide that it is the truth and convert to Islam???
The whole point of having translations of the Quran is to give non-arabic speaking people a chance to read the word of GOD in their own languange and if the decide to convert then latter on if they wish they can decide to learn the original arabic, but not knowing arabic DOES NOT stop a sincere believer in understanding the Quran in his or her own language.At any rate I have already provided evidence of hadith being condemn from the actuall arabic source and all you did was bitch, whine and moan about me "propogating anti-islamic websites" which i have told you repeatedly to provide proof off and yet STILL have'nt.
You supposedly know arabic offhead bet yet you like all the other small minded hadith followers cannot understand the Quran on it's OWN even though it's in the original arabic... now that stupidness does'nt make any sense.
By the way it's really "adult" of you not answer peoples questions all becuase you don't like them or can't prove youre idiotic claims.Grow up.
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Ayisha
Yes, you can do it, you are free to chose any one is.
And hope some confused minds would have understood that these statements are not contradictory. In fact these statements are from Quran, but it is no use to explain it to an average mind like that of george or his alike.oh I missed that one, thanks George. So where are these statements in Quran Raj, ALL of them, as in these statements (pl) please. I'm sure that's one question you should be able to answer surely!
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george
Yes brother you are too confused! What kind of argument you are trying to make? it does not make any sense at all.
If there is translation available for Quran , does that means we should not try to study the actual source of it? or if any one cannot understand Quran even after knowing Arabic, we shall not try? your logic is just childish and you behave like one.Childish is name calling when you are asked a question based on what you have claimed and you cannot answer it.
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george
Chapter and verse then
"Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
george
Childish is name calling when you are asked a question based on what you have claimed and you cannot answer it.
Quite funny!
george
an idiotic hadith follower like raaajah
By the way it's really "adult" of you not answer peoples questions all becuase you don't like them or can't prove youre idiotic claims.Grow up. -
george
"Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."I don't see any mention of eggs, milk or bread in that verse hmm
georgeQuite funny!
Not as funny as you because thats Ayisha's quote not mine you idiot rotfl
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george
Where did I say that we should not try to study the actual source of the Quran.
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
george
The whole point of having translations of the Quran is to give non-arabic speaking people a chance to read the word of GOD in their own languange and if the decide to convert then latter on if they wish they can decide to learn the original arabic, but not knowing arabic DOES NOT stop a sincere believer in understanding the Quran in his or her own language.
george
I repeat again you do not have to Arabic to understand the Quran...
george
At any rate I have already provided evidence of hadith being condemn from the actuall arabic source and all you did was bitch, whine and moan about me "propogating anti-islamic websites" which i have told you repeatedly to provide proof off and yet STILL have'nt.
george
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted......
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george only some of your gems
Not as funny as you because thats Ayisha's quote not mine you idiot
an idiotic hadith follower like raaajah
By the way it's really "adult" of you not answer peoples questions all becuase you don't like them or can't prove youre idiotic claims.Grow up.
Now we definately know that you don't know what the f*** you are chatting about.I don't know who really needs to grow up?
goerge
I don't see any mention of eggs, milk or bread in that verse
you can go to the bakery next street and find them there.
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sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
But which you can't understand on its own without using the hadith
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted......
If you are going to quote me then quote the rest what I said from that first line.
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted for one of them......
Rajaaah some of your gems
your logic is just childish and you behave like one.
Please eat bread.
Please take Milk with bread.
Please eat bread with fried egg.
(In fact these statements are from Quran,)(Your"proof" that these statements are in the Quran)
Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."And hope some confused minds would have understood that these statements are not contradictory. In fact these statements are from Quran, but it is no use to explain it to an average mind like that of george or his alike
I don't know who really needs to grow up?
You do, if instead of answering peoples questions you accuse them of being "child like" or insulting them by accusing them of having "an average mind " and your favourite "propogating anti-islamic websites" all whilst youre tiny confused mind can't tell the difference between one of my quotes and someone elses.
If you act like a grown up and prove your claims then you will get treated like a grown up.
If you act like an idiot by instead of answering peoples questions, making fun of them and insulting them then you deserve to be treated like an idiot.
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george
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
Quote from Raaajah on Today at 061346 PM
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.But which you can't understand on its own with using the hadith
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
Quote from Raaajah on Today at 061346 PM
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted......If you are going to quote me then quote the rest what I said from that first line.
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted for one of them......This shows your panic! relax buddy laugh
The more you call others idiot, the more you expose your self.
In all of your posts the only word that any one could remember was "Idiot".So next time if you have any thing else then calling others "idiot" you are welcome, or if you have something else to say aside from the anti Islamic sites, we will discuss them, otherwise just chill.
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george
This shows your panic! relax buddy laughWho's panicking
your'e the one who keeps dodging peoples questionsThe more you call others idiot, the more you expose your self.
In all of your posts the only word that any one could remember was "Idiot".The only one I've been calling an idiot is you and if idiot is the only word that stood out for you from reading my post's, then you've exposed yourself as an idiot who can't read very well or you must see yourself in that word.
So next time if you have any thing else then calling others "idiot" you are welcome, or if you have something else to say aside from the anti Islamic sites, we will discuss them, otherwise just chill.
And until you chill out and answer peoples questions, instead of dodging them and accusing them of "propogating anti-islamic websites" without any proof then you will continue to be treated like an idiot. D
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george
We can expect that a mental midget like you will carry on not answering peoples questions and to be treated like an idiot, you idiot
It was single "idiot" per post now it has reached the height "two idiots" per line, i would like to see further development in your intellect lets see how many times you can use this word "idiot" in a single line, come on try hard, you have to prove something. rotfl
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george
It was single "idiot" per post now it has reached the height "two idiots" per line, i would like to see further development in your intellect lets see how many times you can use this word "idiot" in a single line, come on try hard, you have to prove something. rotflWell the hieight of your "intellect" is not being able to answer questions to prove youre claims , so I don't have to try at all to prove youre an idiot, because no one is as good at doing that as you. laugh
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"Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
I am leaving you the Quran and my sunna; you should follow both.
(Muwatta 46/3).
463I am leaving you the Quran and my relatives; you should follow both.
(Muslim 44/4/2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; Darimi 23/1/3319).I am leaving you the Quran; you should follow it. (Muslim 15/19/1218;
Ibn Majah 25/84/3074; Abu Dawud 11/56/1905)No raj, sorry those statements do not match what you posted. Also, this is Abraham speaking so are you claiming now that all prophets between Abraham and Muhammed were surplus to requirements? Maybe Allah was practicing to get the one with the right hikmah?
Hint, at the end of each hadith it tells you where its from, and NONE say Quran do they.