Can someone give a complete biography of mohamed from the quran only ?
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Peace,
Exhibit 2 - That he WAS instructed in religious matters - likely in Syriac (given the times)
The verse refutes the accusation ? a non Arabic speaker teaching Quran in Arabic.
16103 and certainly We know that they say, ?Only teaches him a human being."
(The) tongue the one they refer to him foreign and this language Arabic clear. -
Nun please re-read my statement before accusing me of anything... "he WAS instructed in religious matters" not the Quran
Peace,
The verse refutes the accusation ? a non Arabic speaker teaching Quran in Arabic.
16103 and certainly We know that they say, ?Only teaches him a human being."
(The) tongue the one they refer to him foreign and this language Arabic clear. -
Noon de Plume
Sounds like the prophet had a friend who doesn't speak arabic, or knews someone who doesn't speak arabic, did they accuse him for he was his friend ? if he was, than in what language did the prophete speak to him, maybe the prophet did speak 2 languages, and wasn't an illeterate as the sects try to show him, maybe he was a real learned person, for allah doesn't choose idiots to convey his message
Just an opinion
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Peace
maxq wrote
Parvez's works still account for a bit of tradition... it will be 'purely' Quranic.
I meant, it will NOT be 'purely' Quranic - sorry, what a difference three letters make.
This may be the case. However, if such a work is available, it may save you some research hours. Sometimes we only need to modify & motorise the wheel, not re-invent it.
Imraan
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Peace loxbox13,
I didn't make any difference between them
Difference between which things/people?
If u thiknk by searching about his life in the quran is shirk...
Where did I say this? I said that God tells us that we do not need to know all teh personal details of Muhammad, rather, we are to learn from his character and actions, including his mistakes.
I recommend Layth's article entitled "The Messenger"
If I find a similar article I will let you know.Peace
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Noon de Plume
Sounds like the prophet had a friend who doesn't speak arabic, or knews someone who doesn't speak arabic, did they accuse him for he was his friend ? if he was, than in what language did the prophete speak to him, maybe the prophet did speak 2 languages, and wasn't an illeterate as the sects try to show him, maybe he was a real learned person, for allah doesn't choose idiots to convey his message
Exactly... seems were are in agreement. I am not sure what you were trying to refute.
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progressive1993
didn't want to make a differnce between them messengers, meaning, i love to discuss the life of moses, in this forum, joseph, abraham, the story i like the most is joseph, and it's a story for allah says we recite to u the best of stories, but not mohamed, i believe you're afraid of mohamed's story, u love talking about his mistakes, but for now we only talk about his mistakes, xhy is that ? he wasn't chosen by allah and deserve respect from us? wasn't he the same level with abraham and moses? for we say we make no difference between them right?What about his mistakes? what about his patience? what about his perseverence? what about his prayers? what about his debates with intellectuals? what about his application of the quran as a state's law? don't we learn from all that ? isn't he an exemple as abraham ? we pull everything from the quran, isn't it what the quran only is all about?
i met many christians who like to know about the quran and about the one who brought it , don't u think the caracter of the messenger is important for people who wants to know before they accept? can you trust a pedophile to be a messenger? can u accept a con artist to be a messenger ? can u accept liar to be a messenger?
The caracter of the messenger from the quran is important, for us to learn , and for those who accuse the prophete to know the truth, and for respect from our part
I give you an exemple, i don't believe in khalfa, but i don(t hate him for he was killed for his ideas, i even don't know if he felt the threat but stilll, i respect that, i don't believe in him only for the mistakes in the revelation he made, to me it's important a messenger can only be chosen if he's wise h and smart enaugh to learn the revelation better than anybody else, that's me....peace
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Previous books and revelations seem to offer uncertainty about its contents. Whether all of it is the faithful revelation. Christians themselves, consider the Bible inspired and not revealed, although some parts may be revelation. Jews do not have a copy of the books which were revealed before Christ and in fact rely above all on rabinical litterature.
The fact that we have the Qur'an on which we can rely completely, that goes to show what kind of Prophet was Muhammad and how well he fulfilled his mission. Bearing in mind all the interests that have always laboured to undo revelation and sieve it through man's own ideas, the feat of Muhammad is outstanding. He was like Mariam. He allowed nothing to stand between God and the people to whom the message was addressed, that is, all of us. He became transparent. You can only do that if you are a most faithful and pure person and subordinate everything to fulfilling God's will. We cherish our lovd ones who are deceased, even though we do not count on them any more, but whot we lived with them still warms up our hearts and in a sense blesses as by themere fact of having benefitted from them. We even onjoy and are grateful for a singer or composer who played beatiful music which may have given us pleasure and emotion and a chanel for our thought and feelings, even if they are death. Why should our heats not warm up to a person who knew to fulfill God's will for Him the dot and left for us the most illuminating and saving words? How could he lived through that without being himself an example of what he preached?
It is brainless to pretend that we obey the Prophet when he is alreay dead and he cannot think nor give any advice direct to us now. But if we learn and are inspired by other persons in any domain who attained to great achievements and led heroic and holy lives, what should we refrain from being inspired by the Prohet who let nothing stand between God's word and its addresses. That is another miracle besides the miracle of the Qur'an.
Salaam
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The point is, to believe a person who bring news, you have to know if this person is a liar or truthfull person, examin the person, but for Mohamed xe know he was no liar, so we believe in the quran without examining the life of Mohamed, but, we have to take off all the falshood on him made by sects and his enemies, non muslims think of him a pedophile, or a womeniser and a murderer because of hadiths, the Koran clear him from all that as the Koran cleared Noah from the story of his son sodomising him, or Lot having incest with his daughters or Jesus as son of god or jackob who had a fight with god or david who commited adulters etc.... why not clearing Mohamed also from falshood, they sau he was illeterate, he had 12 wives, he married a girl 9 years old, he killed people left and right, he performed stoning for adulter, etc..... I think pulling his caracter from the quran, mistakes, wisdom, perseverence, wars, justice and all , he did it all from the quran, so was his marriages, so it's better to pull his caracter drom the quran, so we can learn from him in the quran as we learn from abraham and moses and all
peace
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inded, loxbox, and from any other sources, only those things that do not contradict the Qur'an implitly or explicitly and whih are endorsed by the mest and most strict methos of historical analysis. Not like now, where muslims derive a lot of nonsense precisely from those hypocrites who later "embraced" islam and carried all their submerged rancour and made it pass as pious remembrance.
Salaam
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I searched, they say that the prophete wasn't from the tribes of Koreish, his tribe was called Banu hachim, the 2 great men from the tribes of Koreish were Busufiyan , who's son became the 5 th or 6 th khalif historically, and another men called the father of ignorance, I guess he is unknown as a person's name
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If ye twain turn unto Allah repentant, (ye have cause to do so) for your hearts desired (the ban); and if ye aid one another against him (Muhammad) then lo! Allah, even He, is his Protecting Friend, and Gabriel and the righteous among the believers; and furthermore the angels are his helpers. .663-4
can the word baath be used when it's duality meaning one of the two ?
can the word tatouba meaning for duality of pluriel in arabic ?
I don't know if I am right, but Antoum for male, antounna for femele , meaning if it was pluriel, it would have been tatouboubba , Or maybe i am wrong?
I still want to prouve that the prophet had 2 wives , after reading the verse of the alleged Zaid , the fabrication and the falshood of interpreting that verse as mohamed had doubt and didn't fear allah, everything is possuble,
Some think i give too much attention to prophet mohamed, taht's not true, i give attention to everything , exemple, i believe salat has multiple meaning, and i want to understand all of them, but that's another subject and has it's place,
I'm saying this because some pople get annoyed of this subject about mohamed, i say to them sorry, but don't worry about it
kgwithnob
What makes you think i'm making difference between allah's messengers ? maybe you are, I see your posts about Abraham or Moses or Even Rashad Khalfa as great posts , with too much respect, but Mohamed I see you talking only about his mistakes, he only delivered, we don't talk about him etc...
Can u please post all his mistakes so we can learn from them ? of maybe they're not mistakes after all, u just been victim of hadiths in your interpretations
The onlly one i see, and i don't see i as a mistake but as a lecon from Allah to his servant, it's about the blind man
Can u please post all his mistakes -
I still want to prouve that the prophet had 2 wives
Peace, how many?
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O Prophet! Indeed, We have made lawful to you your spouse?s whom you have given their reward (ujrahunna)
And m malakat yamnuka from what has given Allah to you
And daughters your paternal uncles
And daughters your paternal aunts
And daughters your maternal uncles
And daughters your maternal aunts who emigrated with you
And woman believing if she gives herself to the Prophet if wishes the Prophet to marry herOnly for you not the believers
Certainly We know what We have made obligatory upon them in their spouses and m malakat aymnuhum
That not should be on you any discomfort and is Allah Oft-Forgiving Merciful3351
You may defer whom you will from them or you may take to yourself whom you will
And whoever you desire from those whom you set aside - so no blame upon you
That more suitable that may be cooled their eyes and not they grieve
And they may be pleased with what you have given them - all of them
And Allah knows what in your hearts and is Allah All-Knower Most Forbearing3352
Not lawful for you women from after
And not to exchange them for wives even if pleases you their beauty only m malakat yamnuka
And is Allah over all things an Observer -
Peace, how many?
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O Prophet! Indeed, We have made lawful to you your spouse?s whom you have given their reward (ujrahunna)
And m malakat yamnuka from what has given Allah to you
And daughters your paternal uncles
And daughters your paternal aunts
And daughters your maternal uncles
And daughters your maternal aunts who emigrated with you
And woman believing if she gives herself to the Prophet if wishes the Prophet to marry herOnly for you not the believers
Certainly We know what We have made obligatory upon them in their spouses and m malakat aymnuhum
That not should be on you any discomfort and is Allah Oft-Forgiving Merciful3351
You may defer whom you will from them or you may take to yourself whom you will
And whoever you desire from those whom you set aside - so no blame upon you
That more suitable that may be cooled their eyes and not they grieve
And they may be pleased with what you have given them - all of them
And Allah knows what in your hearts and is Allah All-Knower Most Forbearing3352
Not lawful for you women from after
And not to exchange them for wives even if pleases you their beauty only m malakat yamnuka
And is Allah over all things an ObserverI think you're mixing it up, these verses are about law of wich women are lawfull for marriage and wich are not
Sorry, this didn't answer my post
Can u answer my post if you have arabic knowlege or if u know about the subject , thanx