-=[ Correction/Modification to FM Translation of AlQuraan ]=-

The_Sardar

Salam/Peace dear brother IsaMuslim. It's best of you check and study the root word of Nafs

Nun-Fa-Siin ( ) = was or became high in estimation, of high account or excellent, highly prized/precious/valuable and therefore desired with much emulation or much request, desired, it became loved or highly esteemed, console, cheer, envy.
Was or became avaricious/tenacious/niggardly of it because of its being in high estimation or excellent, little to much good.
Brought forth (e.g. gave birth to a child), menstruated, blood.
Clear away grief/anxiety/sorrow, ease/relieve, delay.
Breath, gust, drew breath, sigh, spoke long (due to regular intake of breath), become extended/long/increased, ability.
Soul/spirit, the vital principle, intellect/reason/mind, inner desire or feeling, knowledge, pride, self-magnification, a state where there is ample scope for action, 'willingly' when used as adverb, nafs - soul of discrimination (mental) and ruh - soul of breath (physical), oneself/itself, whole, essential constituent, reality, sometimes ghayb and nafs are synonymous, a person/being/individual, quantity, man, life, soul + body, life-blood, body, contention/thought/face/substance, heart, stomach, gulp, drought.
Brother or co-partner in faith/religion/relationship.
Wide space, distance, width.
Greatness, nobility, glory, scarcity, absoluteness, unseen, hidden reality which is beyond human perception, intention, requital, punishment.
nafs n.f. (pl. anfus and nufus) 29, 244, 248, 248, 254, 254, 257, 272, 284, 285, 287, 290, 2102, 2109, 2110, 2123, 2123, 2130, 2155, 2187, 2207, 2223, 2228, 2231, 2233, 2234, 2234, 2235, 2235, 2240, 2265, 2272, 2281, 2284, 2286, 325, 328, 330, 330, 361, 361, 369, 393, 3117, 3117, 3135, 3145, 3154, 3154, 3161, 3164, 3165, 3168, 3178, 3185, 3186, 41, 44, 429, 449, 463, 464, 465, 466, 479, 484, 495, 495, 497, 4107, 4110, 4111, 4113, 4128, 4135, 525, 530, 532, 532, 545, 552, 570, 580, 5105, 5116, 5116, 612, 612, 620, 624, 626, 654, 670, 693, 698, 6104, 6123, 6130, 6130, 6151, 6152, 6158, 6164, 79, 723, 737, 742, 753, 7160, 7172, 7177, 7188, 7189, 7192, 7197, 7205, 853, 872, 917, 920, 935, 936, 941, 942, 944, 955, 970, 981, 985, 988, 9111, 9118, 9120, 9120, 9128, 1015, 1023, 1030, 1044, 1049, 1054, 10100, 10108, 1121, 1131, 11101, 11105, 1218, 1223, 1226, 1230, 1232, 1251, 1251, 1253, 1254, 1268, 1277, 1283, 1311, 1316, 1333, 1342, 1422, 1445, 1451, 167, 1628, 1633, 1672, 1689, 16111, 16111, 16111, 16118, 177, 1714, 1715, 1725, 1733, 186, 1828, 1835, 1851, 1874, 1874, 2015, 2040, 2041, 2067, 2096, 2135, 2143, 2147, 2164, 21102, 2362, 23103, 246, 2412, 2461, 2461, 253, 2521, 2568, 263, 2714, 2740, 2744, 2792, 2816, 2819, 2833, 296, 2940, 2957, 308, 309, 3021, 3028, 3028, 3044, 3112, 3128, 3134, 3134, 3213, 3217, 3227, 336, 3337, 3350, 3419, 3450, 358, 3518, 3532, 3636, 3654, 37113, 396, 3915, 3941, 3942, 3953, 3956, 3970, 4010, 4017, 4131, 4146, 4153, 4211, 4245, 4371, 4515, 4522, 4738, 4810, 4911, 4915, 5016, 5021, 5121, 5323, 5332, 5714, 5722, 588, 599, 599, 5918, 5919, 6111, 6311, 6416, 6416, 651, 657, 666, 7320, 7438, 752, 7514, 7940, 817, 8114, 825, 8219, 8219, 864, 8927, 917

tanaffasa vb. (5) perf. act. 8118

tanafasa vb. (6)
impf. act. 8326
pcple. act. 8326

Lane's Lexicon, Volume 8, pages 80, 81, 82, 83 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=nfs

IsaMuslim

Salam/Peace dear brother IsaMuslim. It's best of you check and study the root word of Nafs

Nun-Fa-Siin ( &#1587 = was or became high in estimation, of high account or excellent, highly prized/precious/valuable and therefore desired with much emulation or much request, desired, it became loved or highly esteemed, console, cheer, envy.
Was or became avaricious/tenacious/niggardly of it because of its being in high estimation or excellent, little to much good.
Brought forth (e.g. gave birth to a child), menstruated, blood.
Clear away grief/anxiety/sorrow, ease/relieve, delay.
Breath, gust, drew breath, sigh, spoke long (due to regular intake of breath), become extended/long/increased, ability.
Soul/spirit, the vital principle, intellect/reason/mind, inner desire or feeling, knowledge, pride, self-magnification, a state where there is ample scope for action, 'willingly' when used as adverb, nafs - soul of discrimination (mental) and ruh - soul of breath (physical), oneself/itself, whole, essential constituent, reality, sometimes ghayb and nafs are synonymous, a person/being/individual, quantity, man, life, soul + body, life-blood, body, contention/thought/face/substance, heart, stomach, gulp, drought.
Brother or co-partner in faith/religion/relationship.
Wide space, distance, width.
Greatness, nobility, glory, scarcity, absoluteness, unseen, hidden reality which is beyond human perception, intention, requital, punishment.
nafs n.f. (pl. anfus and nufus) 29, 244, 248, 248, 254, 254, 257, 272, 284, 285, 287, 290, 2102, 2109, 2110, 2123, 2123, 2130, 2155, 2187, 2207, 2223, 2228, 2231, 2233, 2234, 2234, 2235, 2235, 2240, 2265, 2272, 2281, 2284, 2286, 325, 328, 330, 330, 361, 361, 369, 393, 3117, 3117, 3135, 3145, 3154, 3154, 3161, 3164, 3165, 3168, 3178, 3185, 3186, 41, 44, 429, 449, 463, 464, 465, 466, 479, 484, 495, 495, 497, 4107, 4110, 4111, 4113, 4128, 4135, 525, 530, 532, 532, 545, 552, 570, 580, 5105, 5116, 5116, 612, 612, 620, 624, 626, 654, 670, 693, 698, 6104, 6123, 6130, 6130, 6151, 6152, 6158, 6164, 79, 723, 737, 742, 753, 7160, 7172, 7177, 7188, 7189, 7192, 7197, 7205, 853, 872, 917, 920, 935, 936, 941, 942, 944, 955, 970, 981, 985, 988, 9111, 9118, 9120, 9120, 9128, 1015, 1023, 1030, 1044, 1049, 1054, 10100, 10108, 1121, 1131, 11101, 11105, 1218, 1223, 1226, 1230, 1232, 1251, 1251, 1253, 1254, 1268, 1277, 1283, 1311, 1316, 1333, 1342, 1422, 1445, 1451, 167, 1628, 1633, 1672, 1689, 16111, 16111, 16111, 16118, 177, 1714, 1715, 1725, 1733, 186, 1828, 1835, 1851, 1874, 1874, 2015, 2040, 2041, 2067, 2096, 2135, 2143, 2147, 2164, 21102, 2362, 23103, 246, 2412, 2461, 2461, 253, 2521, 2568, 263, 2714, 2740, 2744, 2792, 2816, 2819, 2833, 296, 2940, 2957, 308, 309, 3021, 3028, 3028, 3044, 3112, 3128, 3134, 3134, 3213, 3217, 3227, 336, 3337, 3350, 3419, 3450, 358, 3518, 3532, 3636, 3654, 37113, 396, 3915, 3941, 3942, 3953, 3956, 3970, 4010, 4017, 4131, 4146, 4153, 4211, 4245, 4371, 4515, 4522, 4738, 4810, 4911, 4915, 5016, 5021, 5121, 5323, 5332, 5714, 5722, 588, 599, 599, 5918, 5919, 6111, 6311, 6416, 6416, 651, 657, 666, 7320, 7438, 752, 7514, 7940, 817, 8114, 825, 8219, 8219, 864, 8927, 917

tanaffasa vb. (5) perf. act. 8118

tanafasa vb. (6)
impf. act. 8326
pcple. act. 8326

Lane's Lexicon, Volume 8, pages 80, 81, 82, 83 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=nfs

Salam brother,
Sorry for replying only today.

I see that the meaning of "Soul", which also carries the meaning of "life" is in the lexicon.
Also we have the following

Qur'an 3185

Every soul will taste death

It is not only every person that will die, but every living being (animals, plants, ...).

The_Sardar

It is not only every person that will die, but every living being (animals, plants, ...).

Yes and they will return to Allah/God (SWTAY)

20111
WaAAanati alwujoohu lilhayyialqayyoomi waqad khaba man hamala thulman
And the faces shall be humbled for the Eternal, the Living. And whoever carried wickedness with him has failed.

5526
Kullu man AAalayha fanin
Everyone upon it will fade away.

5527
Wayabqa wajhu rabbika thooaljalali waal-ikrami
And the face of your Lord will remain; One with Majesty and Honor.

4065
Huwa alhayyu la ilahailla huwa faodAAoohu mukhliseena lahu alddeenaalhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena
He is the Living; there is no god except He. So call on Him while devoting the system to Him. Praise be to God, Lord of the worlds.

2135
Kullu nafsin tha-iqatu almawtiwanablookum bialshsharri waalkhayri fitnatanwa-ilayna turjaAAoona
Every soul will taste death. And We burden you with evil and good as a test, and it is TO US THAT YOU WILL RETURN.

2957
Kullu nafsin tha-iqatu almawti thummailayna turjaAAoona
Every soul will taste death, then TO US YOU WILL BE RETURNED

Ra-Jiim-Ayn = to return, turn back, turn off, (blame) upon any one, come back, repeat, answer, bring answer, be brought back. raji'un - one who returns. murji'un - return, termination. taraja'a (vb. 6) -to return to one another.

2558
Watawakkal AAala alhayyi allatheela yamootu wasabbih bihamdihi wakafabihi bithunoobi AAibadihi khabeeran
And put your trust in the Eternal Who does not die, and glorify His praise. It is enough for Him that He is expert in the sins of His servants.

The_Sardar

Salam/Peace everyone. I found a verse that i have noticed something.

5147 والسماء بنيناها باييد وانا لموسعون
Waalssamaa banaynahabi-aydin wa-inna lamoosiAAoona
And the heaven We constructed with resources, and We are expanding it.

Now i checked the root for curiosity and i found this

Waw-Siin-Ayn = to be ample, take in, comprehend, embrace.

Wasi'a (prf. 3rd. m. sing.) Extended; Comprehended.
Wasi'at (prf 3rd. p. f sing.) Embraces.
Wasi'ta (prf 2nd. p. m. sing.) Thou comprehended.
Sa'atun (v. n.) Abundance; Amplitude; Bounty.
Waasi'un (act. pic. m. sing.) Bountiful; All-Pervading.
Al-Waasi'un one of the names of God.
Wasi'atun (act. pic. f. sing.) wide, spacious.
Muus'i (ap-der. m. sing. vb. IV) maker of the vast extant.
Wus'un (n.) capacity, scope.

wasi'a vb. (1) perf. act. 2255, 680, 789, 7156, 2098, 407
n.vb. (1) 2247, 4100, 4130, 2422, 657, 657
n.vb. (2) 2233, 2286, 6152, 742, 2362
pcple. act. 2115, 2247, 2261, 2268, 373, 497, 4130, 554, 6147, 2432, 2956, 3910, 5332

awsa'a vb. (4) pcple. act. 2236, 5147

Lane's Lexicon, Volume 8, pages 306, 307 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=ws3

The Arabic word lamûsiûna has a emphatic lām prefix & the word mûsiûna grammar's form is masculine plural form IV active nominative noun.

I dont know if this is a mistranslation or not but someone with good Arabic knowledge can help me with this?

A_Submitter

Salam,

3952-53 needs correction.
3952 is missing something.

3952
Do they not realize that God spreads the provision for whoever He chooses, and withholds? In that are signs for a people who believe

Is the underlined correct in 3953?

3953
Say ?O My servants who transgressed against themselves, do not
despair of the mercy of God. For God forgives all sins. He is the
Forgiver, the Merciful.?

Salam

alihawa

I wonder why we as muslims still use proper names such as moses, gabriel, pharaoh and so on.

Isn?t it clear from Quran that their names are Musa, Jibril and Firawn?

Please stop using names taken from other than Quran itself, especially from the books that had been twisted and edited by men.

May ALLAH forgive us.

si_di

I depends on where you are with whom you are talking.

In an englishspeaking Forum it is ok to use Moses to stick with this example as this is whats the englishname is .When you know that you are debatting with a jew it is ok to use Moshe due to respect if you know they are muslims then Musa.

Dont think that People Twisted the names

My view

peace

alihawa

i dont think they are English name. they are taken from Old Testament (OT).

Since the current book of Old Testament has contradictions injected by human led by the devil itself, we should not consider it as a holy book. we should not take any information from it to add up or complete any information we got from Quran under any circumstances, since Quran already state that it is complete. no extra information regarding road of salvation is required.

those names from OT are causing us heavy problems due to

that is the way they can smuggle the non existing character of Jesus to become Nabi Isa, so that many of us think Nabi Isa is Jesus and vice versa.
that is the way they smuggle the idea of false long timeline of prophets from Nabi Nuh to Nabi Muhammad by changing the name of Nabi Yakub to Israel, so that we will think that Bani Israil is the descendant of Nabi Yakub.

i dont know if there are more evil agenda other than these 2, but these are already bad enough.

please stop using extra-quranic information when we talk about Quran.

Mohammed_

peace,

FM translation of 2217

They ask you about the sacred month "Is there fighting in it?" Say "MUCH FIGHTING IS IN IT, and to repel from the path of God and to disbelieve in it, and the Sacred Temple, to drive its inhabitants out from it is far greater with God, and persecution is worse than being killed." And they still will fight you until they turn you back from your system if they are able. And whoever of you turns back from his system, and he dies while disbelieving, then these have nullified their works in this world and the next; these are the people of the Fire, in it they will abide!

but this is correct imo ?...say "FIGHTING/KILLING IN IT (IS) BIG/GREAT, and prevention/obstruction from God's path and disbelief with(in) it, and the Masjid the Forbidden/Sacred, and bringing/forcing out its people from it (is) bigger/greater at God, and persecution (is) bigger/greater from the fighting/killing,...?

In this verse the derivatives of root K-B-R come 3 times, and it is clear that the 2nd and 3rd occasions signify a sinful action even though it is not mentioned directly, (i.e. bigger/greater crime/sin). So the first occasion can also interpret in the same way i.e. big/great sin/crime.

Thus fighting/killing in Al Shahr Al Haram is

great sin
preventing (people) from God&#039s path
equivalent to disbelieving in ASAH

Wakas

peace Mohamed, I agree with you. As a side note you may be interested to learn of the controversy surrounding translation of 2217 in traditional sources
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html analysis, and references this article.

It is a rarely discussed issue.

Mohammed_

peace,

What is the difference between ism and alqaab?
FM translation of 4911 made both as the same!
I think ism = name and alqaab = insulting nickname(s)

from 4911,
"...Nor shall you mock one another, or call each other names; miserable indeed is the name of wickedness after attaining faith. And anyone who does not repent, then these are the transgressors."

Jane

I wonder why we as muslims still use proper names such as moses, gabriel, pharaoh and so on.

Isn?t it clear from Quran that their names are Musa, Jibril and Firawn?

Please stop using names taken from other than Quran itself, especially from the books that had been twisted and edited by men.

May ALLAH forgive us.

Those aren't their real names though. Moses is from Moshe which is a Hebrew version of his Egyptian name which is not known - supposed to be something like Meshitihu meaning to be pulled from the water. He wasn't called Musa in real life.

Isa spoke Aramaic so his name was something like Yeshuah or Yeshu Ha Notzri as he is in the Talmud. (Some people think Jesus is the english pronounciation of Yeshuah but Jesus is actually the anglicised version of the Greek sun god/messiah IESUS.)

Angels don't have a nationality or language so I suppose call them what you want but whats wrong with calling people by their real names.

Wakas

37112 And We gave him the good news of the coming of Isaac, a prophet from among the righteous.

Should be
And we gave him good news of Isaac a prophet from the righteous.

red is not in the Arabic

MrDecember

37112 And We gave him the good news of the coming of Isaac, a prophet from among the righteous.

Should be
And we gave him good news of Isaac a prophet from the righteous.

red is not in the Arabic

Agreed. Out of curiosity, how do these types of errors make it into the translation? It seems straight forward that this shouldn't be there.

Edit I just seen the rules of no discussion in the additional posts on the first page. My apologies for asking the follow-up question.

Layth

Salam,

Agreed. Out of curiosity, how do these types of errors make it into the translation? It seems straight forward that this shouldn't be there.

Thank you. The error has been fixed.

How do they get there? When you translate Arabic, the words give a meaning - sometimes more than just the words written - so, it is a matter of discipline and having checks/balances to make sure that only the words written are the words translated.

This translation has gone through just over a decade of fixes whenever they are noticed - so I would say its very refined.

Iyyaka

Salam aleykoum,

Your translation of verse

556 And the stars and the trees are yielding.

Translating l-najmu as "the stars" is a mistake in the context of this sura.

This word also refers to the notion of "stemless plant, grass, herb", which is more correct here.

Certainly, the term al-najm is a difficulty for commentators and translators is it "the star" or "the herbaceous plant" ? The star would be more appropriate in the context of the sun and the moon, quoted in the previous member (5); but what relation would the star have with the tree, which follows immediately in the same verse ? The grass, on the contrary, forms a homogeneous couple of plants with the tree, in parallel with the two stars, the sun and the moon.

God bless you.

Iyyaka

The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
6151 Say "Come let me recite what your Lord has made unlawful for you that you should not set up anything with Him - and do good to your parents; etc.

--- Analysis Unlawful/Forbidden ?

Verse 151 of Sura 6 is putting in place in the Medinan context. It is particularly explicit. It begins by stating what is generally translated as the divine prohibitions, ma harrama allah (2, 175). But in fact it is better to propose another translation if we judge by the content of the verse. So I propose another translation "what your Lord has decreed for you as things to respect (in fact it would be better to translate like that than the usual translation the prohibitions), mâ harrama rabbu-kum 'alay-kum". Then there is a list of things TO DO or NOT TO DO.

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