What really is jinn?
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A lot of people discuss jinn, and claim it is one or the other. But what if it was a method to demonstrate what jinn really is, and their whispers? There may very well be a method for that, but first let me also explain, that some of you, may be naturally protected, by your godconsciousness, and not notice much of a difference.
However, those who do, may notice whispers, particulary in for instance, modern pop media. Try going to youtube music, and playing their playlist. Muslims learn to control satan, but it still may be present, and give some unwanted impulses, percieved to be suboptimal.
What if you could remove them completely?
Try meditation on "The eternal allknowing Creator", or "I am the eternal allknowing Creator", depending on which school you follow.
You may notice that these impulses vanish to a great degree, I find them completely vanishing with the last meditation.
Hold the meditation for a while. When you let go, you may notice what jinns whispers are. Because you will notice them on yourself. Particulary the unpeaceful spirit of satan, that always encourages sexual conduct.
Quite astonishing I would say.
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Jinn, fire based creature.
said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you?" said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."Jinn's capabilities
And they followed what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve ." And they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew.A powerful one from among the jinn said, "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place, and indeed, I am for this strong and trustworthy."
How to take care Jinn's problem.
And to Solomon the wind - its morning a month - and its afternoon a month, and We made flow for him a spring of copper. And among the jinn were those who worked for him by the permission of his Lord. And whoever deviated among them from Our command - We will make him taste of the punishment of the Blaze.Most mental problems aren't related to to Jinn's influence, because Iblees know man-made problem is more sinful to man than causing the problem itself.
Nutrient deficiency, environment pollution, artificial pesticides, artificial preservatives do cause mental problems.
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"masters of the mechanics of the universe". That would be a pretty trippy jinn. Sounds like association to me though. But some people may have jinn like that? Angelic consciousness maybe.
Iblis is a simple whore. It`s polytheistic, and do cause many mental problems.
Such as believeing in false gods, which the results of are "hellfire". That expression alone probably encapsulates most mental illnesses. Imagine being the only one in the universe, all consciousness, creator of all, and believeing in several gods. This would cause severe mental conflict. Which results in depression, hate, war, and so forth.
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salam,
"Sounds like association"
You're scared, I know It really tested my faith too.
a Creature that can live as Long as The Universe, have studied it, learns to control it, until Nothing in the Universe can harm it, Iblees, Jinn.
Jinn's Long Life, He said,"My Lord, then reprieve me until the Day they are resurrected."
Jinn, Fire-Based Creature, He said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."
Jinn's Capability A powerful one from among the jinn said, "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place, and indeed, I am for this strong and trustworthy."
O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority.Still, don't forget who created it, Allah.
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Protection against it.
So when you recite the Qur'an, seek refuge in Allah from Satan, the expelled -
So what about the "Master of the Mechanics of Universe"?(1)
Sure Iblees can freaking turn Earth, Solar System, The Milky Way, into dust...but...
It Ain't Gonna make gonna make Conscious Faithful Servant of Allah, Astray, Sinful.
Sure Ibless can give evil super weapon, they'll just wipe out humankind without more lots of future sins may created.
Sure they can put prozac in the tap water, it aint going to make people sinful, since they are drug up, unconscious.
Then there's the Matrix like Torture Tube, that'll torture you so harsh while preserving your life so long as the universe. Hmm.... why Iblees haven't done that already?
And Satan will say when the matter has been concluded, "Indeed, Allah had promised you the promise of truth. And I promised you, but I betrayed you. But I had no authority over you except that I invited you, and you responded to me. So do not blame me; but blame yourselves. I cannot be called to your aid, nor can you be called to my aid. Indeed, I deny your association of me before. Indeed, for the wrongdoers is a painful punishment."
Free will to go Astray (Forced Astray don't count).
So I have no problem if a Jinn pretend to be god.
Making the Sun rise from the West,
Make heaven on Earth,
etc, etc, etc,- So what about the "Master of the Mechanics of Universe"?(2)
So, what? Its just the "Universe". Humans with enough knowledge can manipulate the universe too(ie. study the Universe). Mastery of the Universe doesn't make Jinn free from Allah, or god.
Allah is incomprehensible, and don't use Logic to Proof Allah, Allah create Logic. Thus using the "Universe" to somehow to be free from Allah, its an impossibile.
Master of Existence, Creator of Thing from None, Allah.
I know what a Jinn can Dish out.
still my brain is limited, so please comment, cite, argue, etc, because it is an interesting topic. all good feelings, peace peace )
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I think you are giving Iblis too high of a status here. "Iblis follows his desire". This is Iblis, this is a very noticable jinn, which the meditation was supposed to demonstrate. God is the "master of the universe". There are other jinn ofcourse, that may be as trippy as the ones heard of with solomon.
It seems that a fundmental monotheistic viewpoint also reduces spirits, and particulary Iblis, so one can also try meditation on "We are the only one, and create everything". I am very grateful to come to know such direct monotheism, and it is very interesting to see what the effect of such a fundamental monotheistic viewpoint is. And to learn what monotheism really is about, and tries to establish.
Maybe this is mostly for the mystics, but changing ones viewpoint of the world, to this, is definately recommened to try. Meditation on it over a few days should suffice, to know if one would like to continue or not. It is also a way of being conscious of God, and I use it instead of (ritual) prayer. (The angels are still in heaven, and pray for those on the earth AKA hoping for their wellbeing).
Peace!
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Peace
Jinn implies something that is hidden from view. See 727. I get the impression they are not bound to form in the same way we are.
The Q analogy is quite interesting. I'm sure jinn have power in whatever way they do, we do too, but all things are bound to the will of the creator.
1993 There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave.
Humility is the way for all beings.
It seems that a fundmental monotheistic viewpoint also reduces spirits, and particulary Iblis, so one can also try meditation on "We are the only one, and create everything". I am very grateful to come to know such direct monotheism, and it is very interesting to see what the effect of such a fundamental monotheistic viewpoint is. And to learn what monotheism really is about, and tries to establish.
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Yes. I don`t know if you got anything out of the meditation, but to me it clearly demonstrated them, as impulses being present, when not meditating. These are the "whispers" of jinn. It seems that a fundamentally correct monotheistic viewpoint takes them completely away though. Something sufism did not do for me. So I am very happy to progress to a point where I know this, and know alot about the benefits of being conscious of God, in various ways, and how that "protects" against spirits.
Peace.
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Conscious of Allah, Meditation, Higher State of Mind, SubConscious level, Training lower brain regions/reptilian brain.
Inception film may be a Fiction, but it does elaborate, the importance to safeguarding one's mind. Protecting our consciousness.
Still most my headache, are because of High-fructose Corn Syrup, Saturated Fat, Artificial stuff. That evidently physically weakens my ability to protect myself.
Saying Jinn cannot manipulate the Universe, its like saying "Human, Don't Bother Making Advance Technology, to make your life better".
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And then there was the story on how discussions on jinn usually turns to shit. But thats for another day.
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Peace,
Yes. I don`t know if you got anything out of the meditation, but to me it clearly demonstrated them, as impulses being present, when not meditating. These are the "whispers" of jinn. It seems that a fundamentally correct monotheistic viewpoint takes them completely away though. Something sufism did not do for me. So I am very happy to progress to a point where I know this, and know alot about the benefits of being conscious of God, in various ways, and how that "protects" against spirits.
Peace.
Entirely agreed.
I meditate but in a slightly different fashion (emptiness/self inquiry). When focusing strongly on pure unity/alone-ness, I experience the same thing you are talking about. I feel "barriered" from the impulses, which are like whispers. Not exactly "barriered" but more like if you're on the pavement and a car is on the road, as long as you stay on the pavement the car is never ever going to hit you, its physically impossible.
This is done by knowing that I am the space in which these impulses arise. It's funny because I remember getting up a little while ago from a dream I can't remember. I was deep in thought about jinn/whispers during the dream and when I woke up I was still thinking about it. Namely, that the whispers of the jinn telling you to do things is no different to another human telling you.
Looking at it like this, I realise a lot of the "involuntary" jinn-driven things we do are actually ridiculous. It's like someone shouting at you really really loud telling you to jump off a cliff. In real life you would ignore them or tell them to shut up and get the hell out of your reality but when the jinn whisper, we are quick to follow them. Satan has no power over us except the power we give to him.
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The title should be ,
"Higher Consciousness Security through Meditation".
making Jinn the fall guy for many things, man-made problem is everywhere the eye can see.
the very aspect, Jinn a fire-based creature, is not yet humanly proven and documented publicly. There are so many things we have yet to discover.
"Higher Consciousnesses Security through Meditation", is not a Pseudoscience. There's a lot a of thing that undermines the Security of Consciousness, man-made, jinn-made and/or even nature.
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Salam,
I wanted to share my views about the following ayaat
He said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay.
My points
1.From a technical point of view, it is not God saying that Jinns are created from Fire, but it is a jinn saying that he was created from fire.
2.As far as I know, fire is just plain energy and clay is matter. And matter is made of energy too. Are we then the successors of the Jinns ?PEACE
------------------- Student of Allah
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We are not the successors of jinn.
They exist alongside us, and the meditation was meant to give some idea of their whispers.
I tried it again, and yes, indeed, it does reduces a certain whispering to pretty much nothing, for me.
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All this about monotheism, and being conscious of "God" (the allknowing), seems to be about the same.
One can expand the meditation a bit, and focus on more aspects of the same, for instance
"We are the only one, the eternal allknowing creator, independent of everything"
That might get a bit too long of a statement for many, maybe.
One might argue that The Quran, is a book full of these kinds of statements, that in the end should be kind of fused into the concept "God". So being godconscious really is being concious of the entire Quran.
I do have read the entire Quran, to a point, where I no longer find much new in it though, so for me it`s pretty much about finetuning the last details.
And that can be done by meditation, and becoming more aware of these truths. Which hopefully the soul remembers, and it becomes a part of you.
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humans, monkeys, jinn made up from material of the Universe.
the Television, ie the TV whisper evil to US all the time.
Scizophrenia is mand-made, or Gene, or Jinn. Blaming Jinn alone for it is in-complete.
All knower of The Universe. A Metaphor, what "Google" tries to do.
"Master of the Universe" is not the same as "Master of Existence".
Jinn cannot get into heaven, it doesn't have that power. Jinn is dependent on the Universe.
And one day Human may learn, documented, scientifically proven how to block "Whisper".
Say, "If the sea were ink for the words of my Lord, the sea would be exhausted before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even if We brought the like of it as a supplement."Say, "Observe what is in the heavens and earth." But of no avail will be signs or warners to a people who do not believe.
if you true about the meditation, record it Video, post it on youtube. it'll bring help to many people.
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I`ll post the best of my meditation, someday.
I am still iterating a bit, and meditating on "We are independent, and create everything" atm.
When I feel that nothing new happens, which is rarer and rarer, I`ll make a summary of my meditations.
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We are not the successors of jinn.
They exist alongside us, and the meditation was meant to give some idea of their whispers.
I tried it again, and yes, indeed, it does reduces a certain whispering to pretty much nothing, for me.
Salam,
I never meant successor in the sense that the predecessor went extinct. Let me quote what I said in that specific sentence
2.As far as I know, fire is just plain energy and clay is matter. And matter is made of energy too. Are we then the successors of the Jinns ?
What I was trying to say is similar to saying, trees comes first, then comes wood then comes furniture. And Satan knows that he comes from trees and we come from wood. Satan's problem was that he thought of himself as more elementary and assumed more purity.
PEACE
------------------- Student of Allah
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http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/15/27/
And the jinn did We create aforetime of essential fire.