The First Creation
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The First Creation
As You Were First Spawned, So Shall You Return
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For many centuries, humanity has been trying to answer one important, yet puzzling question How did the living organisms of this Earth first come into being? How was mankind created, and how did they multiply? The truth of the matter is that some evil, sentient will has been responsible for shrouding human knowledge concerning the matter of creation behind a veil of lies, and has been acting as an obstacle between us, and Allah?s command
{Say "Roam the earth and observe how the creation was initiated. Thus Allah will establish the final creation. Allah is capable of all things."}?.
Where do we roam? And what do we search for?
We will let the Quran be our guide, because the truths of our creation are contained within it, and have been validated by modern science. Allah?s final scripture to mankind harbors the mother of all secrets; a secret that we have always read but never been fully aware of; a secret that we have often reiterated, but never truly understood. For had we grasped it, we would have found the answer to many of our traditional and contradictory beliefs. Had we understood it, we would have realized that everything we ? as submitters to Allah - have believed in concerning our creation has been taken not from the Quran, but from the corrupted Jewish scriptures.
So, for now, let us roam Allah?s Book, and may the truth set us free?
The story of creation, as told by the Quran, reveals to us the fact that Homo Sapiens first appeared somewhere between 35,000 and 50,000 years ago, as has been proven by anthropologists and fossil diggers. But modern man did not originate from nothing, or out of a clay figure, as the Torah has falsely planted in the minds of the masses. Rather, Homo Sapiens (modern humans), which in Arabic are denoted by the term insan, evolved, over thousands of years, from more basic and primitive species (not apes), which the Quran calls bashar. And this difference between bashar and insan is the key to understanding the process of creation, which has been hidden from us, on purpose, behind a veil of lies.
As for the question of how the first, individual bashar was created, we can say with all certainty, that there was never just one single ?proto-type?, but rather large groups of living humanoids, which were created, through the will of rububiyya (divine nurturing and sustaining), straight out of the clay of the Earth (the limus terra). This took place in an era when the planet was in a certain state of pressure, magnetism, and chemical conditions that it had never witnessed before, and will never witness again, which made the Earth?s muddy pools akin to a female womb, when it nurtures the fetus. These humanoids (which at the primary stage were sexless), later on developed male and female characteristics, the ability to copulate, and scattered all over the continents. It is from the progeny of these basic, primitive bashar that modern humans later evolved, through a process that we will shortly explain.
Consequently, we did not evolve from apes, as Charles Darwin claimed. On the contrary, every living species of this Earth, including the first humanoids (bashar), is unique in its own DNA ? those basic chromosomal traits which identify it from other species - and was first nurtured inside egg-like ?wombs? within the mud and swamp expanses of the Earth, until it reached full growth, and crawled out from the mud, as a completely developed organism. Later on, in another stage, came the era of copulation between males and females of these organisms, and the ?egg? was transferred from the Earth, into the female womb.
If we were somehow able to take a ride on a time machine, and travel back hundreds of thousands of years to observe such a process, we would think that we were on some alien planet, witnessing the birth of strange humanoid creatures and their spawning directly from sacs in the ground, without sexual copulation.
In fact, the Quran tells us, in very clear terms, that the first creation of early humanoids was, in fact, directly from the Earth itself. The Quran calls this process ?al-nasha?atul oula? and in some instances ?al-inbat? (which literally means ?grown like plants? and springing forth from the ground). Then, at a later stage, when the conditions of the Earth?s climate and soil could no longer sustain it, the process evolved and became as we know it today (development of fetuses in the female womb).
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Depiction of Darwin?s theory, which has been rejected by modern science.{?Your Rabb?s forgiveness is vast. He has been fully aware of you since He initiated you from the earth, and when you were embryos in the wombs of your mothers. Therefore, do not ascribe purity to yourselves; He is fully aware of the righteous}?.
The above verse is clear in its description of two stages of creation The first stage is that of the initial creation straight out from the mud of the Earth. The second is the embryonic stage inside the female womb.
Further evidence of this is found in the following
{He is the One who created you from dust, then from a seed, then from an embryo, then He brings you out as a child, then He lets you reach your maturity, then you become old; and some of you will have their lives terminated before this; and that you may reach an appointed term, and perhaps so you may comprehend}?
Again, we see evidence of these stages The first is the ?Earth Egg? stage, followed by the female womb stage.
In fact, the Quran is also clear in stating that the first humanoids evolved through many stages before they became Homo Sapiens, as evidenced in the following
{Why do you not seek Allah in humility? * While He created you in stages}?
And in Allah?s account of a debate between a believer and a rejecter
{His friend said to him while discussing with him "Have you disbelieved in the One who created you from dust, then from a seed, then He made you into a man?}?
So we see here, the proof of two stages of birth and creation The first stage is the creation directly from the ?womb of the Earth?, and the second is the stage of the embryo inside the female womb.
Nowhere is this truth more evident than in the following
{The One who perfected everything He created. And He began the creation of man from clay * Then He made his offspring from a structure derived from a lowly liquid * Then He corrected/bettered/evolved him, and blew into him from His Spirit. And He made for you the hearing, the eyesight, and the hearts; rarely are you thankful}?
Note the significance of the underlined terms ?He began? and ?then?. The above verses really leave no room for interpretation, no matter how much we try to ?bend? or ?cut around corners?. They are telling us, very clearly and eloquently, that our humanoid ancestors were spawned from womb-like eggs in the Earth. Then, at a later era, their progeny came from the union of male and female cells. Then, finally, came the evolution into humans (insan), through the breathing of the Spirit (Ruuh), which we will explain hereafter.
The very first cells from which all human life originated formed in the muddy pools at the banks of the watery expanses of our planet. These cells were actually bi-sexual (meaning they contained both xx and xy chromosomes). This means that the clay of the fresh water pools harbored all life on Earth, by means of the divine rububiyya. This is in accordance with what the Quran tells us
{And Allah created every moving creature from water. So some of them move on their bellies, and some walk on two legs, and some walk on four. Allah creates whatever He wills. Allah is capable of all things}?
{Have those who rejected not seen that the heavens and the earth were one piece, so We split them apart? And that We have made from the water everything that lives. Will they not believe}?
And so it was, until eventually these cells ? through evolution ? started multiplying and forming the characteristics of two genders, then continued to grow inside womb-like sacs in the clay of the Earth, until they became fully-grown humanoids, which then broke through the mud of the Earth, just as all other organisms had done for thousands of years before them.
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The First Creation Humanoid embryos developed inside egg-like sacs in the Earth, and then crawled out as fully-grown, adult living beings.Now, when we encounter the term bashar in the Quran, me must accept that it refers to a living organism, not a figure made of wax or clay, as the Old Testament would have us believe. So when the Quran tells us
{And your Rabb said to the Malai?ka "I am creating a bashar from sludge of hot sediment?}?
It clearly means that He created a living organism. Unfortunately, the ?Muslims?, under the influence of the corrupted Jewish scriptures, understood it as meaning ?He created the likeness of a man from clay?! However, this living organism that was initially spawned - in large numbers ? from eggs inside the clay of the Earth, was not yet perfected, and hence not fit to receive divine guidance. Something was still lacking The Breathing of Allah?s Spirit (Ruuh), which would evolve this bashar from savage being, into a human being (insan).
And so now comes the crucial question What exactly is the Spirit? (Ruuh).
The vast majority of Muslims have fallen into confusion concerning this issue, and have ended up mixing the terms nafs (soul) with ruuh (spirit). They think that the two terms are synonymous and interchangeable. They think that the ruuh is the cause of life, and that when a person dies, his ruuh returns to Allah. They even speak of arwah (spirits ? in the plural!). The fact of the matter is that the Quran completely denies these claims, and clearly differentiates between nafs (which is, by the way, always feminine in the Quran) and ruuh (which is always denoted as masculine). This is not a coincidence, ladies and gentlemen. It is a Quranic phenomenon, which 99% of Muslims fail to grasp, because they read the Quran like zombies, without making even the slightest effort to understand what it is saying.
The Quran clearly tells us that when a person dies, his nafs (soul) returns to Allah, NOT his ruuh. The following verses are among many which prove this
{O, you soul (nafs) which is reassured * Return to your Rabb, in contentment}?
{Allah seizes the souls (anfus) at the time of their death; and for those that have not died, during their sleep. He then keeps those that have been overtaken by death, and He sends the others back until a predetermined time. In that are signs for a people who will reflect}?
{And do not be impressed by their wealth and their children; Allah only wishes to punish them with it in this world, so their souls (anfusahum) will be taken while they are rejecters}?
Do we see the tem ruuh (spirit) or arwah (spirits) mentioned anywhere in the context of life and death in the Quran? Absolutely NOT. This is because the term ruuh is not the ?secret of life?, but rather the ?secret of evolution from primitive humanoid (bashar) to Homo-Sapien?. This Spirit is a divine gift that was bestowed to humankind in order to evolve it beyond its savage origins, and make it fit to be the vicegerent on Earth. Here, then, is the key to solving the puzzle.
{And your Rabb said to the Mala?ika ?I am creating a being (bashar) from clay * So when I have (corrected /bettered/ evolved him), and blown of My Spirit (ruuh) in him, then you shall yield to him}?
It was only after the perfection of this being (which we stress, was an already living being, not an inanimate clay figure), that the Mala?ika (various influential forces) would submit to him. What this means, essentially, is that thousands of years might have passed between the time of creation of the first humanoids from the clay of the Earth, and their evolution into insan. This is why a person who is righteous and close to Allah, and who shuns the pleasures of the physical body, is described as a ?spiritual person?. So the Spirit (ruuh) is not what bestowed life to a clay figurine, as the Torah tells us, and 99% of the Muslims believe. The bashar that was first created was evidently an already living organism. But a giant leap took place, at some point, which led to this savage humanoid becoming ?closer to Allah?, so to speak. And that, dear brothers and sisters, is the true meaning of the ruuh.
So it was then, that our humanoid ancestors were first spawned as sexless organisms, from womb-like sacks in the mud of the ponds and rivers (Earth Fetus Stage).Then, at some point later, the cells within the sacks started developing male and female characteristics, and eventually spawned organisms of both sexes. This is what the Quran calls ?al-nasha?atul oula? (the First Creation). Then, at a later stage (perhaps after thousands of years), the birth of this organism took place through sexual union, and developing of the fetus was then transferred into the female (Womb Fetus Stage). This precisely, is the truth that has been hidden from us all these centuries.
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The current stage Birth from the female womb.An even more amazing concept is that the Quran repeatedly mentions that the First Creation is exactly like the Last Creation (?al-nasha?atul akhira?). As we were first created, so we shall be risen again on the Era of Resurrection, and in the very same manner! This is why the inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula (which was the origin of all Semitic races), even from the most ancient times, have kept the tradition of burying the dead, in a way that is symbolic of our original creation. As our humanoid ancestors first spawned from egg-like sacks in the clay of the Earth, so we must be buried, in order for us to re-spawn from the Earth again, in the Hereafter.
I know this might come as a shock to many of you. But the fact is that the Quran clearly mentions this, and it has been under our noses since forever, but we have been blinded to this truth, purposefully, by a diabolical and scheming will.
{And Allah made you grow from the earth as plants * Then He returns you to it, and He brings you out totally}?
It?s as if the ancient Arabs, by instinct, or on a subconscious level, were aware of what they were doing when they buried their dead. They were emulating the origin of creation, which they understood would be similar to its end.
{From it (the earth) We created you, and in it We return you, and from it We bring you out another time}?
The truth is plain and simple, if only we had opened our eyes from the beginning. From the Earth we first arose like grown plants (the First Creation), and to the Earth we shall return (upon death and burial) and from the Earth we will rise again (the Resurrection) to be repaid for our deeds.
That is how it all began, and that is how it will end
{On the Day when We roll up the heavens like the scroll of a book is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We repeat it. It is a promise of Ours that We will surely deliver}?
If you know of any other way to interpret the above verse, then please enlighten me, because I fail to see it. The Arabic is so pure, so eloquent, and has been under our noses for so long, it is truly a catastrophic shame that we did not grasp it.
{And they are displayed before your Rabb in rows "You have come to Us as We had created you the first time. No, you claimed We would not make for you an appointed time!}?
{He brings the living out of the dead, and He brings the dead out of the living. And He revives the land after its death. And similarly you will be brought out}?
Indeed, so shall we be brought out on the Resurrection like plants growing out of the soil again; a prospect that is truly frightening, yet awesome at the same time.
{Say "Roam the earth and observe how the creation was initiated. Thus Allah will establish the final creation. Allah is capable of all things."}?.
Again, a reminder that the Final Creation shall be like the First. And again, a reminder that the truth of the matter can be observed by roaming the Earth and digging it with our picks and shovels, rather than by sifting through the yellowed and diseased books of ?tafsir? and ?tradition?, which have been infested with ancient myths and corruptions.
And thus, many puzzling dilemmas can now be brought to rest. What of those who died without being buried? Those who were burned and their ashes scattered? Those who were eaten by predatory animals? Those who drowned in the sea? And so on and so forth?what will become of them? In the end, they will all be spawned again, naked, from clay ?tombs? in the Earth of the Hereafter.
{So turn away from them; the era will come when the caller will announce something truly unimaginable. With their eyes humiliated, they will come out of the tombs like scattered locusts}?
And now, after bringing this long-hidden truth into the light, how can we still accept the traditional version of the story of creation that we?ve been taught since childhood? How can we continue to hold on to the fairytale imagined in the Old Testament, which tells us
?And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul?? (Genesis, 27)
Is this in accordance with what the Quran says? Or are we missing something? How can this be?
Allah?s final and ultimate scripture is telling us that first humanoids (not ?Adam?) grew out of the muddy soil like plants, in large numbers, and were living beings (not clay figures). And we have seen how the Quran clearly describes the First Creation{And Allah made you grow from the earth as plants * Then He returns you to it, and He brings you out totally}?
The above verse is crucial as far as pointing out the contradiction between the truth, and what we thought has been the truth, for centuries. It is telling us a version of the story that drastically diverges from the myth of the inanimate clay figure into which ?the Lord God? breathed life, which we read about in the Old Testament. The Quran speaks of already living, primitive organisms that were spawned directly from the limus terra, (the clay of the Earth), and afterwards perfected through the breathing of Allah?s Spirit (ruuh). And if we follow all the verses of the Quran which bear mention of the term ruuh, we will easily come to the conclusion that it was not the case of ?breathing life into the nostrils of an inanimate clay figure?. Rather, it was breathing the Spirit of Divinity which turned the primitive bashar into insan, and made them closer to Allah.
When Allah addresses His messenger, Muhammad (P), He says
{And thus, We inspired to you (Muhamad) a spirit of Our command. You did not know what was the Book, nor what was faith. Yet, We made this a light to guide whoever We wish from among Our servants. Surely, you guide to a straight path}?
Was Muhamad an inanimate clay figure before the Spirit of Revelation came to him? Or was he a living, breathing human being? And was it not by this Spirit (ruuh), that he was made a nabi and a messenger to all mankind? By the same logic, we understand that the first primitive humanoids received the Spirit of Divinity, which made them human, and closer to Allah than their previous, savage origins.
This is the truth that the Muslims have been blind to for ages, because they continue to read the Quran without reflection. They are content to pay more attention to the proper pronunciation of its recited words, and how to chant it eloquently, rather than actually grasp its meaning.
No, my brothers and sisters. Humanity did not originate from an inanimate clay figure, as the corruptors of the Torah claimed, and 99% of the Muslims believe. On the other hand, Darwin?s theory has been disproved my modern science. Anthropologists now accept that each and every living organism on this planet has its own, separate hereditary lineage, and its own common chromosomal trait, which distinguishes it from other organisms. Thus, a mosquito cannot evolve into a bat, while a cat will never evolve into a hyena. Likewise, the ape did not evolve into man. Each organism came from its own genealogical tree, and each evolved to adapt to the changes in its surroundings and climate, but retained its common chromosomal thread, which distinguished it from other organisms. Likewise, we humans evolved according to the climate and geography of our location. Yet, despite the varying color of our skin, the shape of our eyes, the height of our frames, what digestive enzymes we have or lack, and so on and so forth, we have always retained our own common DNA features, which distinguish us from other, separate species. We did NOT evolve from apes.
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The Bible Myth God creating Adam as an inanimate clay figure, then breathing life into him.The Quran warns us numerous times of blatant corruptions in the previous scriptures, in order for the followers of Muhamad (P) to be fully aware of this fact. Yet, despite these warnings, the Muslims took their understanding of the Quran directly from the Old Testament, thus flooding the books of ?tafseer? and ?tradition? with ancient Jewish myths. To make matters worse, the traditional interpreters and Muslim historians claimed that the Jewish scriptures don?t contradict the Quran, and are in fact necessary to understand Allah?s final revelation! It was thus that the truth of our creation has remained hidden from our eyes all these centuries, veiled by the writings and ramblings of misguided men.
And it is thus that we understand the famous saying ?If people only knew how their creation began, no two would ever differ!?
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Peace, and love to all.
Pazuzu.
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Noooooooooooo. )
First Adam was created from "clay" then his offspring from "seed".
There really is no good explanation for man appearing on earth. One day he was there, and the earliest religion we know, talk of a lifespirit in all living things (animism).
The wildest theory is that of the ancient austronat theorists, who think the human race was engineered, by them. And later paraphrases of this history has been shrunk to "God created man".
Too wild for me.
And then you have the common theory of evolution, who claims that RANDOM mutation, resulted in not only ONE human, but another RANDOM mutation resulted in ANOTHER human of a DIFFERENT sex, and in THE SAME geographic location, and THEM and the OFFSPRING survived in a WILD CLIMATE.
If you think winning in lotto that many times sounds impossible, I guess you are like me.
So this clay origin is left. Which can be more or less presenting the truth in a poetic way.
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Thank you Pazuzu for this thread as well!!!
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Like all new hypothesis, this one will take time and reflection to appreciate or evaluate.
However, whatever the outcome of any such study, I think it deserves congratulations. In the long run it does not matter how many errors there may have been in a new hypothesis, but whether from it sound knowledge can be derived or in fact derives. Ideas may be refined and perfected as queries come up in trying to verify it, but there must be first the idea, so one knows what needs to be verified.
May I ask Pazuzu whether it is your idea or you read it or something?
Another thing, there are many places on earth where people have been buried in earth or in pottery in the fetal position.
That I remember that was the usage in Ecuador in acient times, people were given earch inside big earthenware pots.
Salaam
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The idea of creation of humans from organic soil was a belief held by some muslim scholars and philosophers of Andalusia. Ibn Tufail (born in 1105 near Granada, died in 1185 in Marrakesh) alluded to this theory in his famous story "Hayy ibn Yagdhan".
Verse 71 17 explicitly expresses this idea.It's good to see it revived again.
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Spain, and I am getting worse and worse with typing, I meant that nothing like being close to ignore one another. I realise that it is a threat to readers the many typing errors that are slipping into my messages. I m bewitched by hadithists, zionists, or plain bastards. This is awful -\ -\ -\ voodoo voodoo
Salaam
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Peace Pazuzu peace
An interesting thing you've sited isAn even more amazing concept is that the Quran repeatedly mentions that the First Creation is exactly like the Last Creation (?al-nasha?atul akhira?).
The thing that coicides with this is
I view this verse as it can allude to Evolution, as God Almighty is "increased" us in "creation"... like as in perfecting us
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Rather, Homo Sapiens (modern humans), which in Arabic are denoted by the term insan, evolved, over thousands of years, from more basic and primitive species (not apes), which the Quran calls bashar. And this difference between bashar and insan is the key to understanding the process of creation, which has been hidden from us, on purpose, behind a veil of lies.
- Their messengers said unto them We are but BAHAR like you, but Allah giveth grace unto whom He will of His slaves. It is not ours to bring you a warrant unless by the permission of Allah. In Allah let believers put their trust!
According to your definition Were the messengers and their people primitive species?
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Almost forgot about this thread.
Nope. That's not it. The messengers were not primitive. But it's very good that you asked. I was expecting this question a long time ago.
Let me explain to you the contexts of the word "bashar".
From a purely phisiological and anatomical perspective, we are all BASHAR. This means, we have physical bodies made of flesh, bone, organs, hair, nerves, etc... In fact, a chimpanzee has all those as well.
This is why, when we go to the university and study at the faculty of "al- tubb al bashari" (meaning the bashari medicine), we are studying our bodies from a purely anatomical perspective.
But when we study HUMANITIES (Arabic insaniyyat), we are talking here about things that only HUMANS have psychology, sociology, law, philosophy.... get it?
The thing is, I have yet to find, in English, a word that is equivalent to the word "bashar" in Arabic. I mean, when you translate it as "human", you are not being accurate. A human is much more than a bashar.
insan = human
bashar = ?I used the word "humanoid" to describe the primitive beings which existed before Adam (the Homo Sapien). I used it simply for lack of a better term
In fact, the word "bashar" comes from the root 'b-sh-r' which means to announce something that is coming / tidings of things to come in the future. And from it is derived the word "bushra", which every Arab speaker can understand.
So, when Allah told the malai'ka that He was going to create a BASHAR from clay, this bashar was like news of something greater to come in the future. Get it?
Now, concerning your excellent question Why / When did the prophets say "we are simply BASHAR like everyone else"?
If you read the context, it is always in one of the following cases
1- Either the people asked Muhamad for supernatural "miracles", so he answers "I am but a BASHAR like you" (meaning from a purely anatomical perspective, he was not a "supernatural being" or one of the malai'ka. He had a body of flesh and blood)
2- Or, Allah wants to show us that His messengers ate food and had mortal bodies. Again, this is from a purely anatomical perspective. They were bashar, whose bodies required sustanence.
Hope that helps...
@ huruf
It was not my idea. It was from a big load of reading I did long ago. What I did was splice everything into one article.
I have always had doubts in my mind concerning this "Evolution VS. Creation Debate"The readings I did pointed out that the Quran had the answer, and that each side of teh argument had one part of the truth. It's a little bit of both.
But I have always believed, even since before I did this reading, that there WERE more primitive species before Adam, and that they were NOT apes. So the question is how were those humanoids spawned?
Well, therr's your answer.
If you have seen the movie Lord of the Rings, and how those big Orcs are spawned directly from the mud, you'll get the picture. I guess Tolkien was onto to something there...Or maybe he doesn't realize just how close to the truth he got.
Peace...
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The thing is, I have yet to find, in English, a word that is equivalent to the word "bashar" in Arabic. I mean, when you translate it as "human", you are not being accurate. A human is much more than a bashar.
insan = human
bashar = ?Perhaps the nearest technical terms are the ones used in anthropology
Insan Homo Sapiens
Bashar Homo Neanderthalensishttp//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
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I remember many years ago I read a book by an Elaine Morgan who upheld that humans evolved in an acuatic medium, for which reason they have the subcutanean layer of fat, and are not hairy as other mamals. It seems that since she was no acknowledged university biologist she was disdainfully treated. I wish I still had that book, but I lent it then and I can't remember much of it, not even the title, just that curious part, which I found really interesting.
May be, besides the book by Ibn Tufail, Pazuzu, you can tell us some of those readings.
Salaam
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Noooooooooooo.
First Adam was created from "clay" then his offspring from "seed".
There really is no good explanation for man appearing on earth. One day he was there, and the earliest religion we know, talk of a lifespirit in all living things (animism).
The wildest theory is that of the ancient austronat theorists, who think the human race was engineered, by them. And later paraphrases of this history has been shrunk to "God created man".
Too wild for me.
And then you have the common theory of evolution, who claims that RANDOM mutation, resulted in not only ONE human, but another RANDOM mutation resulted in ANOTHER human of a DIFFERENT sex, and in THE SAME geographic location, and THEM and the OFFSPRING survived in a WILD CLIMATE.
If you think winning in lotto that many times sounds impossible, I guess you are like me.
So this clay origin is left. Which can be more or less presenting the truth in a poetic way.
Salam,
That was a very odd and gross way of explaining evolution. Evolution is not a tornado going through a junk yard giving us a Boeing 737. That would be like winning lotto many times over.
@Pazuzu
Your hypothesis is very interesting indeed. However, do you have any evidence for such interpretation ? Or they are just the way you see it ? According to modern science, we started from the earth as simple things and by the passage of time became Humans. But that is based on evidence. Can you share scientific evidence for your hypothesis ? (If you have actually taken it that far as a work)
PEACE be on you
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@ Student of Allah
Sorry, I didn't pay attention to this thread.
Are you 100% certain that single-cell organisms which first showed up in the marches and rivers of the Earth BECAME our ancestors?
To answer your question yes, this is teh way I see it. This is how I understood it from the Quran. And I am not the first one to understand it as such. Maybe science will validate this theory many many years in the future (perhaps not in my lifetime or yours).
Peace...
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@ Student of Allah
Sorry, I didn't pay attention to this thread.
Are you 100% certain that single-cell organisms which first showed up in the marches and rivers of the Earth BECAME our ancestors?
To answer your question yes, this is teh way I see it. This is how I understood it from the Quran. And I am not the first one to understand it as such. Maybe science will validate this theory many many years in the future (perhaps not in my lifetime or yours).
Peace...
Shalom Pazuzu,
I read your posts and enjoy them. It would be nice if you could actually back them up with scientific evidence. Experiments, Observations, test, natural sciences,etc. But I think that is a HUGE thing to undertake. Anyhow, I like reading them.
Study Evolution, its a very simple yet the most powerful theory I ever came across. It wont answer "origin of life" , but how life adapts and natural selection paves the way for the evolution to take place.
Coming to your question about 100% certainty, the answer is NO. I am not really a 100% certain about ANYTHING. Because everyday I learn and the model of reality in my head undergoes change. Sometime I have to discard old ideas for the sake of better understanding of the universe. My life runs by "balance of probabilities". We being the great^zillion grandchild of a snail is more likely to be true than magically materializing or coming out of the earth (from sacs in the earth) as homo-sapiens. The tree of life from different branches of bio-science leaves no space to doubt our ancestral links. And yes, the trees coincide )
About the last part of your post, wouldn't it be nice if science validates all your hypothesis in future ? Keep working on them, if it is the truth, it will be uncovered one day inshallah.
Peace
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Salaam,
evolution is only partly right, the evolution is not by chance, it by belief, this is why belief is such a powerful and important foundation of the Qur'an and the purpose of life; being correct belief.
If you change your beliefs you physically change you DNA, this is the true mechanism of evolution, evolution through the mind changing the body as a result of new beliefs; and belief is shaped by both environment and experience, not just education.
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@ Student of Allah
Study Evolution, its a very simple yet the most powerful theory I ever came across. It wont answer "origin of life" , but how life adapts and natural selection paves the way for the evolution to take place
I believe in evolution within the human species. Take this example A group of humans (men and women), are placed in an underground cave, with no access to the surface world or to sunlight, and where they live off of fish in uderground streams, or mushrooms and edible fungi. What do you think will happen to their descendents after 500 years? Do you think they will look like us? Most probably not. Their skin will be pale, and their eyes larger (because they have to adapt to lack of light).
Another example If you take a group of people and force them to live on a cold mountain over 4,000 meters high, their offspring will eventually develop more red blood cells (their faces will have a reddish tint so they can absorb more oxygen, because of the thin atmosphere).
This is something that Allah has put in his creations The ability to adapt to the surroundings and climate, by undergoing gradual physical changes. Even the most hardline creationists accept this fact.
But this does not mean that humans (Homo Sapiens) evolved from apes. They evolved from lesser beings (Neanderthals). As to how these Neanderthals came into being, the Quran has revealed that they sprung forth directly from the earth.
We being the great^zillion grandchild of a snail is more likely to be true than magically materializing or coming out of the earth (from sacs in the earth) as homo-sapiens.
Why? Is it any less far-fetched than the "magic" of birth from the female womb?
I believe early human consciousness was aware that the female womb is like the fertile earth itself, in which the seed is planted (so you see the paralellism?)
The birth from the female womb is no less "magical" than birth from the earth embryo.Of course, it might seem strange to you. The Quran even admits this. It tells us that we did not witness this first stage of creation. This was hundreds of thousands of years before "adam". And in the Era of the Resurrection, the scene of springing from the earth (muddy graves) will be repeated again. This is how the Quran describes it
{So turn away from them; the Day will come when the caller will announce something truly strange * With their eyes humiliated, they come out of the muddy graves like scattered locusts}...
The word which appears in the Arabic text is (nukr) The FM translation rendered it as "great disaster", which is absolutely FALSE. The word "munkar" is derived from "nukr", which means "something strange / uncommon / unfamiliar".
The sight of humans coming out of the earth on the Day of Resurrection is similar to how they were first created, and it is indeed a very strange (nukr) sight, because no-one has ever witnessed it, or seen anything like it.
But the Quran is telling us that it happened, and will happen again. Despite the Quran being a book of faith (not science), it does contain, here and there, some scientific truths.
About the last part of your post, wouldn't it be nice if science validates all your hypothesis in future ?
See, that's the problem with Muslims. They sit on their a$$es doing NOTHING, wait for the "Kafir West" to discover all scientific truths, then they boast "Oh, that's not new! The Quran mentioned it centuries ago!"
Instead of taking the initiative themselves, and letting the Quran LEAD them to the truth, they adopt the passive approach.
Keep working on them, if it is the truth, it will be uncovered one day inshallah.
In order for them to uncover it, they have to start by looking in the right place.
When Allah told Muhamad and his people
{Say "Roam the land and observe how the creation was initiated. Thus Allah will establish the final creation. Allah is capable of all things}...
I don't think Allah meant they had to roam the entire planet. The truths of creation are found in the south western part of Arabia. It is the center of everything.
I would like you to take a look at the following links. I believe now that archeologists are on the verge of making a new discovery that will shake the very foundation of the "Ethiopian Craddle" story.
Please read and ponder on the implications We have always thought humans originated in Ethiopia, then migrated to Arabia some 70,000 years ago.....until they found human artifacts in Oman and the Emirates dating back over 100,000 years, with ZERO evidence of any African origin.
Why Oman and Emirates? Simply because the governments of these two countries are more open to archeological digs than the Saudis and Yemenis.
http//www.livescience.com/17248-arabian-artifacts-humans-africa.html
http//blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/12/out-of-africa-to-out-of-arabia/
http//www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jan/27/stone-tools-human-migration-africa
http//www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45501635/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/arabian-artifacts-may-rewrite-out-africa-theory/
I believe this is the begining of the end of the "African Origin" story. Inshallah, in our lifetime, the Zionist Saudi and Yemeni regimes will be toppled, and the regions of Western Arabia will be opened to scientists. Only then will the truth of our creation come out.
Peace...