Washing after sex
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Peace All,
I am wondering what everyone thinks about the rule of washing after sex. Do people understand it to mean the hair as well?
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Peace Emil,
Yes, if you have sex and a prayer is due, do you simply take a shower or bath and do wudu or do you also have to wash your hair before prayer. Basically, does cleansing yourself after sex for prayer include washing the hair?
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Peace Emil,
Yes, if you have sex and a prayer is due, do you simply take a shower or bath and do wudu or do you also have to wash your hair before prayer. Basically, does cleansing yourself after sex for prayer include washing the hair?
Dawn.56 O you who believe, if you rise to hold the contact prayer, then wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles; and if you have had intercourse, then you shall bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or you have excreted feces, or you have had sexual contact with the women, and you cannot not find water, then you shall select from the clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and your hands with it. God does not want to place any hardship on you, but He wants to cleanse you and to complete His blessings upon you that you may be thankful.
First of all, cleansing yourself before prayer is more of a spiritual cleansing than a biological. If anyone proclaims it is only biological (s)he will run into alot of "what if" questions.
Allah asks us to perform the ritual of cleansing because he knows washing yourself with a material like water will in fact make you feel cleansed in both mind and soul. The spiritual aspect is evident in the verse above. Even if we do not have access to water, we are still commanded to cleanse ourselves using soil. If you were clean before, the risk of you becoming more biologically dirty after using soil (eventhough clean soil) are almost 100%. Hence, the spiritual cleansing is of more importance than biological.Second, Allah tells us that it takes longer time to become spiritually ready for prayer if you just had sexual intercourse. This is true I believe. If I haven't had any for a long time but when I do, I can walk around with a silly smile on my face for days.......That is not the mentality I am supposed to have when entering a prayer, right? Therefore we are to "clean" ourselves from the lingering sensations of sex even deeper by taking a bath.
If you cannot achieve to get you spiritually ready for prayer by not washing your hair, you should wash your hair. If the sex wasn't that good and you can easily forget about it, you should still meet the minimal requirements according to the Quran, taking a bath. What that implies is up to you to interpret.
BTW, if anyone disagrees with above statement, please let me know, I want to learn peace
BTW
sex for prayerNice...... pr
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Hi All,
I understand that we have to do wudu in order to pray. What I am asking is when the Koran says bathe yourselves after sex, the assumption is still there that when you pray you will do wudu (including wiping the hair). However, what I am interested in is, whether bathe yourself means wash your hair as well as the rest of your body.
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Hi All,
I understand that we have to do wudu in order to pray. What I am asking is when the Koran says bathe yourselves after sex, the assumption is still there that when you pray you will do wudu (including wiping the hair). However, what I am interested in is, whether bathe yourself means wash your hair as well as the rest of your body.
Dawn.Salam Dawn
Are you looking for a yes or no answer? Because if you are there is none. Bath means bath, ok? A bath is very different depending where you are geographically. You are assuming that all people have access to excess water. You are assuming that past and future generations of all mankind will live in the same conditions as us.
Like I tried to explain before, the guiding of ablution is for your spirit mainly, not your physical body -
I agree with Emil totally, and layth explained very well that wiping your hair is required as a mininum. Dawn Seems ask a very sunni-type question shall I wash my hair after sex? Can i wear jeans ? How should I have sex? Which time of the day can i have sex?'' in stead of using logic and the simple general rules in quran. That's properly the way all hadith books were fabricated and that's why the sunni need their scholers.
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Salaam.
BATH means washing the whole body thoroughly, which should include the head and hair. In my understanding (from simple reason and common sense), when I'm supposed to take a BATH to fulfill the commandment I should wash sufficiently well all the parts of my body so that I FEEL it was a bath, not just ablution or wetting the body.
I find it so ridiculous about sunni imams telling people how to bath and what steps to follow, and that if a hair-length place remains dry the bath is 'rejected'.... !!!
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Salaam.
BATH means washing the whole body thoroughly, which should include the head and hair. In my understanding (from simple reason and common sense), when I'm supposed to take a BATH to fulfill the commandment I should wash sufficiently well all the parts of my body so that I FEEL it was a bath, not just ablution or wetting the body.
I find it so ridiculous about sunni imams telling people how to bath and what steps to follow, and that if a hair-length place remains dry the bath is 'rejected'.... !!!
Very good post indeed. You should FEEL it was a bath. For you it means washing the hair, for a bold person the feeling is different peace
IMO, I would never ever bathe my hair before prayer because I would look like a frozen porcupine before reaching the mosque. Have you ever gone outside in ten below celcius with wet hair? rotfl Furthermore I would probably get sick doing it, so no thank you sir.
Joking aside, the feel of being "clean" is the goal.
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@Where Is The Truth,
With respect, I know what the minimum for prayer is (the four steps of ablution). Given that this is a discussion board, I don't expect anyone to put anyone else down, especially when they are unsure. This certainly leads to people not wanting to express their honest views and also to people not saying when they don't understand or when they are confused. I come from a Christian background and I am learning all the time. I take your point about the Sunni thing. Unfortunately, I felt put down and I hope that was not your intention. I am sure you could find a better way to make your point. Are you trying to turn people away? I didn't detect the peace in your response, but I guess if people like me remind you, perhaps you might want to practise it.
Peace,
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Peace Emil
The "thahara" in 56 means purify/clean and "bathe" is a forced meaning by the translators.
Also the most distorted meaning for "janaba" can not mean "intercourse"Ok, good to know. So in other words I was not that far off eventhough I am only using the Swedish Quran. In my Quran bathe doesnt exist, it says purify. Janaba is translated as "great ritual uncleanliness"
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@Where Is The Truth,
With respect, I know what the minimum for prayer is (the four steps of ablution). Given that this is a discussion board, I don't expect anyone to put anyone else down, especially when they are unsure. This certainly leads to people not wanting to express their honest views and also to people not saying when they don't understand or when they are confused. I come from a Christian background and I am learning all the time. I take your point about the Sunni thing. Unfortunately, I felt put down and I hope that was not your intention. I am sure you could find a better way to make your point. Are you trying to turn people away? I didn't detect the peace in your response, but I guess if people like me remind you, perhaps you might want to practise it.
Peace,
Dawn.Some of the people on this forum can be a bit grumpy from time to time (lack of sleep perhaps, ), but don't mind them. Learning is progressive and can only be done properly if the candidate is sincere. It takes time, no one can be expected to learn the Way in a short space of time unless God wills it. I'm glad that you came from a Christian background since Christians(Students of the Book) as well as the Jews should be a more knowledgeable in what the Quran teaches than other religious sects among Islam(e.g. Sunnis , Shiites , Sufi's )
Peace,
Kevin
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Peace Kevin,
Thank you for that. The other 'problem' I realise that I have is the problem of Arabic. Just from this post I am realising that depending on the translation you have, you could be understanding differently. I had no idea that bathing yourself could actually also mean doing wudu. This is why I ask questions. Of course, I understand that God will give clarity to the ones He wants to give it to.
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Peace Kevin,
Thank you for that. The other 'problem' I realise that I have is the problem of Arabic. Just from this post I am realising that depending on the translation you have, you could be understanding differently. I had no idea that bathing yourself could actually also mean doing wudu. This is why I ask questions. Of course, I understand that God will give clarity to the ones He wants to give it to.
Dawn.Try using these sites. I'm also very weak in Arabic but these sites helps greatly in my studies.
quranix.org - Five Translations (Edip-Layth, The Monotheist Group, Muhammad Asad, Rashad Khalifa, Shabbir Ahmed ), Quran Transliteration, Arabic text and Commentary.
http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp - Quran Dictionary , Word by Word translation, Quranic grammer
Btw learning Arabic plays very little in understanding the Quran. There is no language barrier when it comes to understand (interpreting ) the Quran. The most important thing you have to remember is to be sincere. Sincerity (your good intentions) is the key to guidance and unlocking the 'true interpretations ' in the Quran. The Quran is a guarded book....
5677 It is an honorable Quran.
5678 In a protected record. ( a guarded book)
5679 None can grasp it except those pure. (meaning sincere)
5680 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.There are many people who are well versed in Arabic but know very little of what the Quran truly teaches. The 'true teachings' of the Way are only reserved for the righteous.
1745 When you study the Quran, We place between you and those who do not acknowledge the Hereafter an invisible barrier.
1746 We place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and deafness in their ears. If you mention your Lord in the Quran alone, they run away turning their backs in aversion.Yes knowing Arabic is important to get a better translation of the Quran but overall it plays very little importance when it comes to understanding the Quran. To understand a book and to read a book are two different things. Understanding what you are reading is far more important than becoming eloquent in a language. God made the Way easy for the righteous, whether they be French, Dutch, Norwegians , or Italian. Language is not a barrier that prevents a person from understanding the Way; it is their intentions.
Peace,
Kevin
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Very good post indeed. You should FEEL it was a bath. For you it means washing the hair, for a bold person the feeling is different peace
IMO, I would never ever bathe my hair before prayer because I would look like a frozen porcupine before reaching the mosque. Have you ever gone outside in ten below celcius with wet hair? rotfl Furthermore I would probably get sick doing it, so no thank you sir.
Joking aside, the feel of being "clean" is the goal.
No problem you can use dry water instead
http//www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scientists-create-dry-wat
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How ridiculous the disbelievers are !
