Does anyone know where I can find a Suni?
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http//www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?79284-Shortening-Eyebrow-Hair/page1
brickwall brickwall brickwall brickwall
QUOTE OF THE DAY
"however there is a difference in opinion in this regard. speak to a scholar in you area. but Nabi SAWS did curse the one who plucks."Advise them to be consistent with their doctrine
Advise them to release a bundled book containing "Quran + Shahih Hadiths" and name it "Yet Another New Testament" or "New Testament 2.0". And proclaim to all of the member of their sect (release a new 'fatwa ulema' that all 'believers' must believe in all of things written in this book otherwise they are not "Muslim" and shall be burned in hell for all eternity.
I bet at least 98% of this 'bundled book' contain explanations of 'petty stuff' and 'things which doesn't matter'.
PS If you want to have 'fun', ask them how to properly do the 'attahiyat', is it with index finger straight and hold it firm? or we can 'rotate' our index finger as thus making a circle? Or perhaps we can also use our 'middle finger' or 'pinky' instead? This kind of thing might trigger a 'hot debate' between them.
Salam / Peace
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haha how about this gem that I was just replied with
"As for your question, you are ignorant of how the hadeeth were preserved- ignorant of the glorious memory of the Arabs, ignorant all the way through- indeed, your compound ignorance is quite disconcerting."
The glorious memory...over two+ centuries. Over many generations. Over the very minutiae of personal life.
I do not think it is possible to get through to people so entrenched in their views. However, like belh said, we can hope to at least open the minds of some people stalking the forums who are on the fence.
Jafar, I don't think I could ask them that question, it might get too heated!
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haha how about this gem that I was just replied with
"As for your question, you are ignorant of how the hadeeth were preserved- ignorant of the glorious memory of the Arabs, ignorant all the way through- indeed, your compound ignorance is quite disconcerting."
The glorious memory...over two+ centuries. Over many generations. Over the very minutiae of personal life.
I do not think it is possible to get through to people so entrenched in their views. However, like belh said, we can hope to at least open the minds of some people stalking the forums who are on the fence.
Jafar, I don't think I could ask them that question, it might get too heated!
That, is why mind trick is an interesting method, when all methods fail. Mind trick is like a gun, use either for Evil or Good.
Don't loose hope, Allah is all Knowing.
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Thank you brother. It does not metter if they kick us out. we can join using different emails. I will not give up the fight. peace
Salaam Brother BelH,
In this thread you are defending the killing rule from Quran perspective.
http//www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?79213-Why-do-you-believe-in-hadith/page19You made a good point but I just want to say that you didn?t have to look that far.
Please read chapter 9 carefully, it?s from the beginning all ready understood to who this chapter is referring but I think that verse 913 is very clear to who this ?killing rule? is referring.913
Pickthall Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges, and purposed to drive out the messenger and did attack you first? What! Fear ye them? Now Allah hath more right that ye should fear Him, if ye are believers -
By the way, anyone who is watching this thread, it would be good (if you have time) to post on here some refutations to any of the sunni posts that you believe are, in particular, infringing upon logic/the Qur'an/whatever.
However, I don't think they will be listening to us for much longer I'm afraid.
Thanks,
Ty
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"When a foolish person speaks, do not reply to him, for better than responding to him is to remain silent. If you speak to him, you have assisted him, but if you ignore him, he dies out of extreme grief." Imam Al-Shaafi'i (rahimahullah)
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What happens when they are the ones who are foolish. That is a nice statement to keep a person close-minded and brainwashed.
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Their replies are simply questions posed to our own question. They have not answered anything yet. However, I can't think of anything that will stump them. Any ideas?
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I used to be on that forum, long ago. But, they don't like women much who question. I was not a favorite. I was told it is not my right to be jealous of men having more than one wife.. and I would ENJOY seeing my husband so satisfied sexually in heaven. uggg.. pigs.
I asked once, what is the science of scholarship? Who says so and so is a scholar? I was fed so much BS.
I need to find the hadith, But ask them why Bukari refused to get hadiths from the man who tricked his horse. But accepts Abu Hurarah when he ADMITS in a hadith he would lie about his memorization of QURAN to get a free meal from the Sahaba..... Wow.. an honest liar.. maybe thats is why......lol
Ask them why do muslims pray so different. Hands folded, hands not folded? Loud ameen, silent ameem. Blood negates wudo, blood does not. How can we follow texts that divide so many. Ask them.. WHAT SCHOOL OF THOUGHT/ MADHAB WAS PROPHET MUHAMMAD? You will start a war between them..lol! the Shafi and Hanbali will start bickering.
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- will live in misary (pay with their family lives and various form of calamity)
Is this their version of ORIGINAL SIN..lol I thought Allah was just. Wyy would he punish innocent "Family" for your decision? This Nomad contridicts the Quran and follows the idea of the bible's theory of the sins of the father will be avenged on the son.
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This LemonT character is my hero! Hmmmm, I wonder who he is hmm
http//www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?79213-Why-do-you-believe-in-hadith&p=681991&posted=1#post681991
I like his quote
"Even I, a fellow muslim, who think you are a complete jerk would never ever call you a kafir. It saddens me how you so casually throw around this word. It saddens me to hear that you are discriminating against another human being because they do not speak arabic, sad.You can sit in your boat while the rest of the muslims that actually recognise that believing in Allah is the first and foremost can sit in another. But don't worry, we will rescue you when your boat sinks. "
Indeed we shall rescue any sinking boats.... and not just the sunni's boat...
But when the sunnis try to sink other people's boat, we are in no hesitation to sink the sunni's boat and then rescue them afterwards.Salam / Peace
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"Mufti saheb for exposing the troll.
EDIT What in the WORLD!!!! They were discussing 6 pages to attack sunniforum....!!!!! No wonder new IDs popped up. The MODs please clean up...!"
http//www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?79213-Why-do-you-believe-in-hadith/page25 Post 249 onwards
I lolled when he said "They were discussing 6 pages to attack sunniforum" Attack rotfl
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Lol, I've always wondered why Sunnis are almost always so dramatic. Reminds me of many times when Sunnis on Youtube keep repeatedly saying "these Quranists are attacking Islam"
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What attack, like we declared jihad on them? Well, I guess they were wrong when they said QA cannot agree on anything
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They always say the those who are Quran only, can't agree. They can agree either. They have a million different ways on how each school prays and everything else.
I like the thinking of following Only hadith that are in alignment with the Quran should be considered. Umm. Then why not just read the Quran that should cover it.
ahh, like a cat chasing its tail.
I would rather be called a Kafir by them then be considered a Muslim like them.
Also just a quick question. So if the Christian according to their posting is 100% Kafir. How is it permissible for a Muslim man to marry from the "people of the book" if they are Kafirs?? Would a muslim marry a kafir and trust his children with her?
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They always say the those who are Quran only, can't agree. They can agree either. They have a million different ways on how each school prays and everything else.
I like the thinking of following Only hadith that are in alignment with the Quran should be considered. Umm. Then why not just read the Quran that should cover it.
ahh, like a cat chasing its tail.
I would rather be called a Kafir by them then be considered a Muslim like them.
Also just a quick question. So if the Christian according to their posting is 100% Kafir. How is it permissible for a Muslim man to marry from the "people of the book" if they are Kafirs?? Would a muslim marry a kafir and trust his children with her?
In a conversation with a good Sunni friend of mine, he said that Muslim men can only marry Christian or Jewish women if they have the intent of converting after marriage. After hearing this I thought to myself "wouldn't they then just convert to Islam before marriage?" ???
And what if they happen to remain Christian/Jewish after marriage? You divorce them? ???
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Also just a quick question. So if the Christian according to their posting is 100% Kafir. How is it permissible for a Muslim man to marry from the "people of the book" if they are Kafirs?? Would a muslim marry a kafir and trust his children with her?
Good question and good point
But what is a kafir? they seem to have a totally different opinion. When I read the Quran I only come to one meaning
Christians/jews, no they believe in Allah
Atheist, no there is no compulsion in religion
Rejectors of Allah eventhough they have seen the truth, no because in surah 9 we are told to kill the kafir/polytheist UNLESS we are being attacked physicallySo my in my mind a kafir/disbeliever is someone who will not let you believe in what you want or tries to kill you because of your belief.
Like Hitler, he was a kafir.....
Have I understood the whole kafir thing wrong?