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The ultimate translation of the prayer.

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    Paradox_Uncreated
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    Nonono, you are where you know and see God.

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      IAMOP
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      What are you afraid of?

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        Paradox_Uncreated
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        I fear God.

        A concept you do not know, because indeed, you do not know God. What you are seeing is the idolaterous state of the pantheist.

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          Peace

          I am not pantheist. I am me.

          Truly afraid of God? Please check yourself.

          494 O you who have attained to faith, when you go forth in God's cause, use your discernment, and do not - out of a desire for the fleeting gains of this worldly life - say unto anyone who offers you the greeting of peace, "Thou art not a believer" for with God there are gains abundant. You, too, were once in the same condition - but God has been gracious unto you. Use, therefore, your discernment verily, God is always aware of what you do.

          peace

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            You are a pantheist who says you are not a pantheist. And the rest of your logic is equally incoherent, the example that "5000 gods" is true, is the best example, because according to your logic, all that exists is truth. And that is pr. definition pantheism.

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              Peace

              Falsehood does not exist! Falsehood is non-existence and non-existence cannot be. Existence IS truth, truth IS existence.

              It is true that you wrote . Binary state 1 - TRUE

              It is not true that - Binary state 0 - FALSE

              {81}
              And say The truth has come and the falsehood has vanished; surely falsehood is a vanishing (thing).

              So perhaps falsehood exists right now, but it soon will cease to be.

              How did you miss this, as a programmer?

              Peace

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                I disregard most of what you are saying as trash. Is everything the truth or not?

                Should be an easy yes, no. question. If everything is the truth, then yes, there are 5000 gods.

                Iamop wrote "Falsehood does not exist!".

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                  Iamop seems unable to anwer. Probably because he is nuts, and "beyond bliss".

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                    Al-hallaj got his head cut off. I can understand that now. They just keep babbling, and has done so until the world has been deluded to use the word "saints" about them. They are pharaoes, not muslims.

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                      Peace,

                      Iamop seems unable to anwer. Probably because he is nuts, and "beyond bliss".

                      O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former) Nor let some women laugh at others It may be that the (latter are better than the (former) Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong. (4911)

                      Iamop, please be a little more careful when you talk to people. This is not the only topic from IAmop, there might be other topics which he wrote which are not filled with incorrect information. It was also you who felt it necessary to post and post again as if you were trying to attack (Sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone).

                      So do not give examples to God. God knows while you do not know. (1674)
                      I hoped this guy will realise his error!

                      Peace

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                        OP does not believe, he is not a monotheist. And I dont find him amusing I do however have a strong dislike for him.
                        Laugh at him all you like, he is a failure, as long as he works against God.

                        Laughing at a believer would be completely wrong ofcourse. A MONOTHEIST, not a pantheist.

                        There is not really much to laugh at or.. do you find his BINARY = 0, or other babbling amusing?
                        From a programmer point of view, this is LAME.

                        The pantheists have decieved many, it is a shaytan. Don`t be decieved.
                        If I were to list all the errors he has in his posts, the job would be too big, and if simple communication is not good enough, then.. God guides and deludes whomever he wills.

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                          The original meaning of waswas, may not be just whisper. It might be related to babbling. The cacophony of the world, babbling in unison. Where God is unknown, and a mystery. Shaytan is a babbling idiot. And monotheism filters him out, and one gets closer to the compassionate, and a meaningful life.

                          Which is, to get back on topic, why I was interested in the most accurate translation of the prayer, which contains the most important parts of the monotheistic mindset.

                          Do note that prayer includes the words "creator of the worlds" or "Lord of the worlds", or "superordinate of the worlds". So God is greater than creation, and that is a fundamental aspect of monotheism. So much that one should remind oneself 3 times pr. day.

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