Freemasons?
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Peace all,
Question I've noticed in a few different threads a general distaste for freemasons, even to the extent of calling them devil worshippers. Now, where I live, I understand why some fundamentalist churches say this. Mainly because churches have to compete with lodges for members. But why do some of the members here not like them? I've never met a mason who wasn't a good, God-fearing man.
So, I'm sure this is going to make me incredibly popular. I tend to integrate Judeo-Christian scripture with the Qur'an, and now I'm mentioning freemasonry. Pazuzu, maybe it was me who hacked your webcam... rotfl
-Joel
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peace be to you as well,
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Have you seen "The Arrivals"?? I think it will answer your Q.
Most people who dislike freemasons associate them with the Illuminati and most people think of Devil worshipping when they hear Illuminatti... so when you connect A to B, B to C and C to A, you get a lot of ppl disliking freemasons... ) -
Have you seen "The Arrivals"?? I think it will answer your Q.
Most people who dislike freemasons associate them with the Illuminati and most people think of Devil worshipping when they hear Illuminatti... so when you connect A to B, B to C and C to A, you get a lot of ppl disliking freemasons... ))The Arrivals is a bunch of bull once you get past the fear of checkered floors, Ancient "Satanic" Egyptians, "Jinn controlling" UFOs, Ladies dressed in red, and of course - the saga of Al-Mahdi, Isa's second coming, Armageddon, and the one eyed potato head (aka Al-Dajjal &.
Freemasons don't worship pagan idols, suns and stars or devils lol. They simply believe in God, have their own commandments, have their own rituals and promote a lot of social good.
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The Arrivals is a bunch of bull once you get past the fear of checkered floors, Ancient "Satanic" Egyptians, "Jinn controlling" UFOs, Ladies dressed in red, and of course - the saga of Al-Mahdi, Isa's second coming, Armageddon, and the one eyed potato head (aka Al-Dajjal &.
Freemasons don't worship pagan idols, suns and stars or devils lol. They simply believe in God, have their own commandments, have their own rituals and promote a lot of social good.
LOL!! I agree, i watched the whole thing and decided at the end, "maaaaan this is some BUUUUULLL shiizzz!"... I mean, if Illuminati (or some other REALLY advanced "secret devil worshiping socity" really existed, i highly doubt we'd be watching YouTube videos about it... hence, the name "SECRET society"... we gotta give Devil a little more credit, he's not hat stupid... hahahaa...
Anyways, i was just saying that most people have never heard of freemasons until the Illuminati/Arrivals crap surfaced on the internet (that was the case for me), and that might be the reason why most people dislike them...
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I have known some, doubtless the most sadistic evil SOBs I have ever encountered.
In their orphanage I was forced to do work so strenuous that it would have violated labor laws for ablebodied men to do such work for pay. I suffered severe, permanently disabling injury from that child labor, and I was brutally physically abused otherwise by adults there.
Suicide attempts were not unusual among their enslaved orphans. One of my friends there killed herself.
Every adult involved in the operation of that orphanage was well aware of child abuse there.
Every dues-paying member of that organization supports that orphanage and its practices.Peace. peace
A slave is a PERSON who has found himself/herself in the unfortunate position of being oppressed by a jackass with a retarded ideology.
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Now, where I live, I understand why some fundamentalist churches say this. Mainly because churches have to compete with lodges for members.
Correct.. excellent observation..
But why do some of the members here not like them? I've never met a mason who wasn't a good, God-fearing man.
Because some members here are coming from fundamentalist churches background as well, although they call their churches as mosque. And they were growing up within a society who hates Jews.. Thus the imagery on association of Freemasons->Jewish Domination really sells well for easy acceptance into their hard-wired brain.
It's not that easy to erase all of those years of indoctrinations.So, I'm sure this is going to make me incredibly popular. I tend to integrate Judeo-Christian scripture with the Qur'an, and now I'm mentioning freemasonry.
Too late, you're not the first one. Around 1300 years ago somebody already did that.. they intregrate Judeo-Christian scripture with Quran and added Talmud, Christians Myth, Arab Paganism, Quraishies Tribalistic Facism, Global Domination-ism, Egyptian Paganism and Persian Zoroastrianism into the mix.
Salam / Peace
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Where was this? Most masonic activities are under a Grand Lodge. If the orphanage is still in operation and doing the same things, that should be reported to the people responsible for oversight.
-Joel
I have known some, doubtless the most sadistic evil SOBs I have ever encountered.
In their orphanage I was forced to do work so strenuous that it would have violated labor laws for ablebodied men to do such work for pay. I suffered severe, permanently disabling injury from that child labor, and I was brutally physically abused otherwise by adults there.
Suicide attempts were not unusual among their enslaved orphans. One of my friends there killed herself.
Every adult involved in the operation of that orphanage was well aware of child abuse there.
Every dues-paying member of that organization supports that orphanage and its practices.Peace. peace
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Hmm...
Maverick, I think you live in a cocoon...
there are reports of people who made it rather high within the echelons of freemasoneries and quit to speak out about it...
what they say is rather ugly... the higher you get the more exposed you will be required to
sexual child abuse, vampirism, rituals involving sharing blood, sodomy, to of course the worship of Lucifer himself...Beginning members and "gentiles" like you have no idea of what happens up above in the higher lodges...
and incidentally, nonetheless, any belief organisation that is pyramid hierarchical cannot be healthy...
Islam is horizontal and consultationary, not secretive... and has only one Patron, Allah, who through His scriptures makes Himself very transparent...
isn't this what Allah blames the Children of Israel for, hiding His revelations from others?
Allah's revelations are not meant to be a club's property, they are to be propagated for the benefit of Mankind...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dhul-Qarnain, Illuminati, all that jazz. I never met a mason who was not a good man. And each lodge is autonomous, they simply choose which grand lodge they affiliate with. There are two main grand lodges, and a few others.
I don't think masons hide revelation. In the words of Albert Pike, "Freemasonry is neither a religion, nor does it ape religion." I think the "secrets" go back to the way that stone masons kept the skills of their trade secret from outsiders. Pretty sure you can google it and find out whatever secrets you want to know. Duncan's Ritual is public domain, I think.
-Joel
Hmm...
Maverick, I think you live in a cocoon...
there are reports of people who made it rather high within the echelons of freemasoneries and quit to speak out about it...
what they say is rather ugly... the higher you get the more exposed you will be required to
sexual child abuse, vampirism, rituals involving sharing blood, sodomy, to of course the worship of Lucifer himself...Beginning members and "gentiles" like you have no idea of what happens up above in the higher lodges...
and incidentally, nonetheless, any belief organisation that is pyramid hierarchical cannot be healthy...
Islam is horizontal and consultationary, not secretive... and has only one Patron, Allah, who through His scriptures makes Himself very transparent...
isn't this what Allah blames the Children of Israel for, hiding His revelations from others?
Allah's revelations are not meant to be a club's property, they are to be propagated for the benefit of Mankind...
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I don't think masons hide revelation. In the words of Albert Pike, "Freemasonry is neither a religion, nor does it ape religion." I think the "secrets" go back to the way that stone masons kept the skills of their trade secret from outsiders. Pretty sure you can google it and find out whatever secrets you want to know. Duncan's Ritual is public domain, I think.
Anecdotally, I've never met a psychopath who didn't initially come across as a "good man".
I've also experienced on several occasions Satan suggesting to me that masonry is a worthwhile pursuit since there appears to be some kind of truth or magic in the combination of the checkered floor and euclidean geometry/platonic solids. These suggestions are pretty similar to other ones Satan has used on me, like how I ought to consider hadith or code 19 as integral parts of the Divine Message. With these experiences in mind, and hopefully being wise from actually having pursued hadith and code 19 for a bit (strictly to my own frustration) I tend to view masonry as just another distraction away from the Quran/Islam and therefore inherently satanic, and while perhaps not uniquely so, clearly alluring enough to trick people off the straight path. Don't be fooled!
I can use my google and torrent downloading skills to get a hold of the not-so-secret-anymore "scriptures" of scientology as well. Information technology advances making it harder to keep secrets doesn't mean that these shadowy organizations aren't trying to keep secret whatever they can. Deception (Satan's method) works much better in the absence of transparency.
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Revelations from Satan...
Look up the ex Mason Bill Schnoebelen, and maybe you can contact him and help him see the light and recant his accusations and blasphemy against the free masonry you are so keen to defend...
Like the Eye on the Pyramid which represents the eye of Lucifer, but also the anus of a preteen boy that will grant pleasure to the most damned and rewards to the Mason who rapes it...
Wake up or stop your recruit drive...
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dhul-Qarnain, Illuminati, all that jazz. I never met a mason who was not a good man. And each lodge is autonomous, they simply choose which grand lodge they affiliate with. There are two main grand lodges, and a few others.
I don't think masons hide revelation. In the words of Albert Pike, "Freemasonry is neither a religion, nor does it ape religion." I think the "secrets" go back to the way that stone masons kept the skills of their trade secret from outsiders. Pretty sure you can google it and find out whatever secrets you want to know. Duncan's Ritual is public domain, I think.
-Joel
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Revelations from Satan...
Look up the ex Mason Bill Schnoebelen, and maybe you can contact him and help him see the light and recant his accusations and blasphemy against the free masonry you are so keen to defend...
Like the Eye on the Pyramid which represents the eye of Lucifer, but also the anus of a preteen boy that will grant pleasure to the most damned and rewards to the Mason who rapes it...
Wake up or stop your recruit drive...
- I really don't believe that Joel / Maverick Monotheist here is trying to recruit anyone to Freemason religion
- theNabster, have you been in Freemason religion yourselves? And witness all of those thing yourselves?
- The Catholic / other sect also do the same 'negative campaigns' towards their competitors within organized religion industry namely the Sunnis, Shiites which they can't differentiate and call them Islam. Search on Google and you can see their propaganda against them.
- In response, the Sunnis, Shiites has also launched similar propaganda against their competitors in organized religion industry namely the catholics, LDS, Orthodox (which they can't differentiate and cal all of them Christians), Judaism and others.
- Within themselves; the sunnis and the shiites which compete within the same market area (Middle east region) also launched similar negative campaigns against each others..
The acts mentioned above are commonly found within any industry performed by the major industry player, due to the 'tough competition' and not only within organized religion industry.
For example; within telecommunication and networking industry, CISCO has launched a negative campaign towards Chinese HUAWEI with similar scheme. They spread rumor without any shred of conclusive evidence (except testimonies from 'witnesses' which CISCO paid to do so) that Huawei is a threat to national security.. through their 'secretive link' to the Chinese military.
http//www.afr.com/p/technology/china_giant_banned_from_nbn_9U9zi1oc3FXBF3BZdRD9mJ
I've found many similarity of CISCO campaign on Huawei with Catholics/Churches campaigns on Freemasons (and Islam and other competitors).
At the end of the day; it is all about $$$, power and influence...
Salam / Peace
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While I have not read all of Pike's "Morals and Dogma...", he speaks very highly of the prophet and the religion of Islam. As for what you speak of, I have not encountered that in his writings yet.
peace
Coming from a person who calls himself a monotheist ,even if a maverick,his defence of masonry is shocking.Pls read Albert Pike and his descriptions of luciferian glorification in the higher degrees of freemasonry.
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Jafar, Maverick, peace... and please!
Jafar can't Maverick defend himself on his own? or are you his keeper... Allah enjoined Muhammad (P) that he was not the keeper of anyone...
The Quran is plain, common sensical, and enough as guidance, and Allah enjoins the Believer/s not to use anything else as a Criterion...
Who cares about all these competing Sects, but those who defend (or are a member of) one of them... which one do you defend? or keep your Peace...
Salaam
Nabil
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Jafar, Maverick, peace... and please!
Jafar can't Maverick defend himself on his own? or are you his keeper... Allah enjoined Muhammad (P) that he was not the keeper of anyone...
The Quran is plain, common sensical, and enough as guidance, and Allah enjoins the Believer/s not to use anything else as a Criterion...
Who cares about all these competing Sects, but those who defend (or are a member of) one of them... which one do you defend? or keep your Peace...
One thing that Quran (or bible or others) teach me is to avoid the act of "Dholim".. in english.. "Unjust"..
Spreading lies/falsehood and hatred towards a group of people is an act of "Dholim"...I'm defending those who are experiencing "Dholim" act... whomever they are...
If sunnis spreading hatred and lies against the ahmadis.. i will defend the ahmadis..
If the catholics spreading hatred and lies against the sunnis i will defend the sunnis...
If the sunnis spreading hatred and lies against the catholics, i will defend the catholics..
etc..Salam / Peace
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One thing that Quran (or bible or others) teach me is to avoid the act of "Dholim".. in english.. "Unjust"..
Spreading lies/falsehood and hatred towards a group of people is an act of "Dholim"...I'm defending those who are experiencing "Dholim" act... whomever they are...
If sunnis spreading hatred and lies against the ahmadis.. i will defend the ahmadis..
If the catholics spreading hatred and lies against the sunnis i will defend the sunnis...
If the sunnis spreading hatred and lies against the catholics, i will defend the catholics..
etc..Salam / Peace
Hmm...
how about Scientologists...
wait better Satanists... will you defend them against Dholim acts... they now have churches, and even a bible called (obviously) satanic bible...
the history of Scientology as a religion is pretty interesting, look it up... it will show you how easy it is to set up a religious sect and get followers if you are crafty (and evil) enough... better look up their founder Lafferty Ron Hubbard, a SciFi author (mind you as that he was pretty good and prolific, but also good in a bad way at taking the subject of psychology and the abandoned field of General Semantics, and making out of it a Religious Cult,with him as a god)...
why should I defend misled groups? the only thing I will defend for them is the opportunity to hear the true words of Allah, as it was given to me by reading info and blogs on this website...
Allah says Humanity was a single Nation, and then they split up into groups fighting one another out of jealousy between them for what each one of them got... and that the names these groups give one another are just labels they made up...
sunnis, shia, ahmadis, ismailis, zorostrians, catholics, protestants, mormons, orthodox or conservative or reform judaism, zionism, satanism, phallus Kazhar worship (!!!) all the Hindu sects, Buddhism and then so called non-religious ones humanism, pragmatism, socialism, capitalism, communism, liberalisms, atheism... etc. etc.a lot of groups to defend here... good luck Jafar, you must be a very busy man indeed ...
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Hmm...
how about Scientologists...
wait better Satanists... will you defend them against Dholim acts... they now have churches, and even a bible called (obviously) satanic bible...
Yes definitely...
The equation
IF (X Spread Lies and Hatred towards Y)
DEFEND Y From Lies and Tell the truth about Y..the history of Scientology as a religion is pretty interesting, look it up... it will show you how easy it is to set up a religious sect and get followers if you are crafty (and evil) enough... better look up their founder Lafferty Ron Hubbard, a SciFi author (mind you as that he was pretty good and prolific, but also good in a bad way at taking the subject of psychology and the abandoned field of General Semantics, and making out of it a Religious Cult,with him as a god)...
I never met Hubbard or know enough details on "Scientology".. no comment..
Have you met Hubbard? Or a member of Scientology?
As thus you know enough detail to judge?why should I defend misled groups? the only thing I will defend for them is the opportunity to hear the true words of Allah, as it was given to me by reading info and blogs on this website...
Allah says Humanity was a single Nation, and then they split up into groups fighting one another out of jealousy between them for what each one of them got... and that the names these groups give one another are just labels they made up...
sunnis, shia, ahmadis, ismailis, zorostrians, catholics, protestants, mormons, orthodox or conservative or reform judaism, zionism, satanism, phallus Kazhar worship (!!!) all the Hindu sects, Buddhism and then so called non-religious ones humanism, pragmatism, socialism, capitalism, communism, liberalisms, atheism... etc. etc.a lot of groups to defend here... good luck Jafar, you must be a very busy man indeed ...
More than that.. I give you additional list
Jews, Arabs, Eskimos, Aborigines, Chinese, Niggers, Hispanic, Mexicans, The Kuffars, The Apostate, The West, Russians, Gypsis..... (and thousands others)Care to join? Taking the 'hard path'?
Salam / Peace