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Inheritance: Daughter not Son is the central theme of Inheritance.

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    Mazhar
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    I think in most Muslim countries the inheritance laws are enforced upon peopler which I thinks works in favour of women.
    In India Hindu women do not inherit and Pakistan is culturally the same so many girls could have lost their right to inherit if people had choice. In many rich families often boys are in control of business as well as the parents and there is a strong desire to keep money within the family.
    Salaam

    Allah the Exalted has authoritatively fixed the shares in all cases where people can abuse the rights of weaker segement of their families.

    The cause of abuse is this
    The love and desire of sensual excitements and gratifications has become fascinatingly attractive in the women and the Sons;
    So have become the desire to have a state of hoarded abundance of the Gold and the Silver, and the marked-pedigree horses , and abundance of herbivore-mammals, and for plenty of harvesting lands.
    This is the wealth-sustenance-provision of transitory worldly life.

    People usurp the rightful share of weaker segments

    And you people eat away the inheritance, in the manner of devouring-absorbing others share.
    And you people develop lust for the wealth, love intensified.

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      Noon_waalqalami
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      Sorry, you are running out patience, however, here problem is of bad weather, electric failur system switching from electric to generator and to electric, internet service getting interrupted.

      You're babbling -- I asked you Mazhar, a simple question; distribute shares

      mother, father, wife, 1 daughter, 1 son, 1 sister, 1 brother

      Instead of answering all you do is rant because you are obviously clueless!

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        Maha
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        I think in most Muslim countries the inheritance laws are enforced upon peopler which I thinks works in favour of women.
        In India Hindu women do not inherit and Pakistan is culturally the same so many girls could have lost their right to inherit if people had choice. In many rich families often boys are in control of business as well as the parents and there is a strong desire to keep money within the family.
        Salaam

        No you are wrong. I have been in india and met hindu women who inherit property so yes In India hindu women do inherit property.

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          farida
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          No you are wrong. I have been in india and met hindu women who inherit property so yes In India hindu women do inherit property.

          Ignorant as always you need to rely more on solid information rather than your odd visit, its only in 2005 India introduced women's equall rights to inherit where there was no will left.
          You spend too much time on sunnies, for a change do some reading on the history of women's inheritance rights not only in India but in also in Europe including Sweden and Uk, where until last century women had no right to inherit in the absence of a will, and if they did inherit they were still under the power of a male guardian, when they married what ever they owned was inherited by their husbands who than became their gurdians. yes

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            Mazhar
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            You're babbling -- I asked you Mazhar, a simple question; distribute shares

            mother, father, wife, 1 daughter, 1 son, 1 sister, 1 brother

            Instead of answering all you do is rant because you are obviously clueless!

            You seem to have gone blind of heart. You did not read, shares are given alongwith Ayah.

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              Noon_waalqalami
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              You seem to have gone blind of heart. You did not read, shares are given alongwith Ayah.

              Then what are you afraid of? Tell us how to distribute? Perhaps you are clueless?

              mother, father, wife, 1 daughter, 1 son, 1 sister, 1 brother

              mother, father
              mother, son
              mother, daughter
              mother, sister
              mother,brother
              mother, spouse
              father, son
              father, daughter
              father, sister
              father, brother
              father, spouse
              son, daughter
              son, sister
              son, brother

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                Mazhar
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                Part cut from Reply 40

                Daughter and Son get two third. It leaves 1/3rd in the Divisible Inheritance left at the disposal of the person to bequeath for his mother, and father. Depending upon the volume of wealth, he can give something to his brother and sister if he so likes without overstepping the relative nearness.

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                  Noon_waalqalami
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                  Part cut from Reply 40

                  That was not an answer! It was also the wrong answer for son and daughter; 2/3 is to females!

                  411... so if kunna/are (feminine plural) nisa/women above two (feminine) falahunna/so to them (feminine) thulutha (2/3)

                  Again like the coward and too proud to admit error you ran away! I asked you to distribute these...

                  mother, father, wife, 1 daughter, 1 son, 1 sister, 1 brother

                  mother, father
                  mother, son
                  mother, daughter
                  mother, sister
                  mother, brother
                  mother, wife
                  mother, husband
                  father, son
                  father, daughter
                  father, sister
                  father, brother
                  father, wife
                  father, husband
                  son, daughter
                  son, sister
                  son, brother
                  son, wife
                  son, husband
                  daughter, sister
                  daughter, brother
                  daughter, wife
                  daughter, husband
                  sister, brother
                  sister, wife
                  sister, husband
                  brother, wife
                  brother, husband

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                    Mazhar
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                    That was not an answer! It was also the wrong answer for son and daughter; 2/3 is to females!

                    411... so if kunna/are (feminine plural) nisa/women above two (feminine) falahunna/so to them (feminine) thulutha (2/3)

                    Again like the coward and too proud to admit error you ran away!

                    How many times should I tell you that you do not know Arabic. You treat it as if it were a germanic language.

                    Even perhaps you do not know the grammar of English language.

                    Look at the Verb. Blue part is Plural Feminine Pronoun and even an idiot knows that a Pronoun refers back to a a specific Noun. Tell me to whom it links and describes?

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                      Noon_waalqalami
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                      How many times should I tell you that you do not know Arabic. You treat it as if it were a germanic language.

                      Even perhaps you do not know the grammar of English language.
                      Look at the Verb. Blue part is Plural Feminine Pronoun and even an idiot knows that a Pronoun refers back to a a specific Noun. Tell me to whom it links and describes?

                      You're a clueless idiot! Tell us how falahunna/so to them (feminine) can be other than to females?

                      Likewise you are a coward and a run away! You like threes, here then distribute inheritance for these...

                      1. mother, father, son
                      2. mother, father, daughter
                      3. mother, father, wife
                      4. mother, father, husband
                      5. mother, father, sister
                      6. mother, father, brother
                      7. mother, son, daughter
                      8. mother, son, wife
                      9. mother, son, husband
                      10. mother, son, sister
                      11. mother, son, brother
                      12. mother, daughter, wife
                      13. mother, daughter, husband
                      14. mother, daughter, sister
                      15. mother, daughter, brother
                      16. mother, wife, sister
                      17. mother, wife, brother
                      18. mother, husband, sister
                      19. mother, husband, brother
                      20. mother, sister, brother
                      21. father, son, daughter
                      22. father, son, wife
                      23. father, son, husband
                      24. father, son, sister
                      25. father, son, brother
                      26. father, daughter, wife
                      27. father, daughter, husband
                      28. father, daughter, sister
                      29. father, daughter, brother
                      30. father, wife, sister
                      31. father, wife, brother
                      32. father, husband, sister
                      33. father, husband, brother
                      34. father, sister, brother
                      35. son, daughter, wife
                      36. son, daughter, husband
                      37. son, daughter, sister
                      38. son, daughter, brother
                      39. son, wife, sister
                      40. son, wife, brother
                      41. son, husband, sister
                      42. son, husband, brother
                      43. son, sister, brother
                      44. daughter, wife, sister
                      45. daughter, wife, brother
                      46. daughter, husband, sister
                      47. daughter, husband, brother
                      48. daughter, sister, brother
                      49. wife, sister, brother
                      50. husband, sister, brother
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                        Mazhar
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                        Mazhar on Today at 062716 AM
                        How many times should I tell you that you do not know Arabic. You treat it as if it were a germanic language.

                        Even perhaps you do not know the grammar of English language.
                        Look at the Verb. Blue part is Plural Feminine Pronoun and even an idiot knows that a Pronoun refers back to a a specific Noun. Tell me to whom it links and describes?

                        You're a clueless idiot! Tell us how falahunna/so to them (feminine) can be other than to females?

                        Why are you exposing yourself? Do you not know that Hunna-a plural feminine pronoun refers back to identified and known women, and so is the Noon in Kunna. Who are those women you are reffering by pronoun "them"? Identify and relate them.

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                          Noon_waalqalami
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                          Why are you exposing yourself? Do you not know that Hunna-a plural feminine pronoun refers back to identified and known women, and so is the Noon in Kunna. Who are those women you are reffering by pronoun "them"? Identify and relate them.

                          O' now you admit it refers back to women; so you contradict yourself by allocating 2/3 to son and daughter?

                          Likewise you admit son and daughter case allocate shares to them (wrongly); still avoid giving distributions?

                          Run away Mazhar run!

                          You're a clueless idiot! Tell us how falahunna/so to them (feminine) can be other than to females?

                          Likewise you are a coward and a run away! You like threes, here then distribute inheritance for these...

                          1. mother, father, son
                          2. mother, father, daughter
                          3. mother, father, wife
                          4. mother, father, husband
                          5. mother, father, sister
                          6. mother, father, brother
                          7. mother, son, daughter
                          8. mother, son, wife
                          9. mother, son, husband
                          10. mother, son, sister
                          11. mother, son, brother
                          12. mother, daughter, wife
                          13. mother, daughter, husband
                          14. mother, daughter, sister
                          15. mother, daughter, brother
                          16. mother, wife, sister
                          17. mother, wife, brother
                          18. mother, husband, sister
                          19. mother, husband, brother
                          20. mother, sister, brother
                          21. father, son, daughter
                          22. father, son, wife
                          23. father, son, husband
                          24. father, son, sister
                          25. father, son, brother
                          26. father, daughter, wife
                          27. father, daughter, husband
                          28. father, daughter, sister
                          29. father, daughter, brother
                          30. father, wife, sister
                          31. father, wife, brother
                          32. father, husband, sister
                          33. father, husband, brother
                          34. father, sister, brother
                          35. son, daughter, wife
                          36. son, daughter, husband
                          37. son, daughter, sister
                          38. son, daughter, brother
                          39. son, wife, sister
                          40. son, wife, brother
                          41. son, husband, sister
                          42. son, husband, brother
                          43. son, sister, brother
                          44. daughter, wife, sister
                          45. daughter, wife, brother
                          46. daughter, husband, sister
                          47. daughter, husband, brother
                          48. daughter, sister, brother
                          49. wife, sister, brother
                          50. husband, sister, brother
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                            Mazhar
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                            Quote from Mazhar on Today at 070640 AM
                            Why are you exposing yourself? Do you not know that Hunna-a plural feminine pronoun refers back to identified and known women, and so is the Noon in Kunna. Who are those women you are reffering by pronoun "them"? Identify and relate them.

                            O' now you admit it refers back to women; so you contradict yourself by allocating 2/3 to son and daughter?

                            It seems that the point has finally got in to your brain. But are still shy to boldly accept it and stop playing with words.

                            Look how much you have eaten up in one simple sentence of Arabic, thereby, building up a theses without known what is stated therein.

                            411... so if kunna/are (feminine plural) nisa/women above two (feminine) falahunna/so to them (feminine) thulutha (2/3

                            so if be females above two (feminine) so for them two thirds what left

                            There is a visible Pronoun in it. Almost all the translators tried to mention it by using adverb "there" which can be used as Pronoun introducing a sentence stating that something exists, develops, or can be seen. However, they overlooked that in Arabic it is not the case. In Arabic the Visible and Hidden Pronoun of a Verb must link back to known entity-entities or its Subject must be mentioned after it.

                            The above is undeniable established fact in linguistics.
                            Ponder over it, and let it get in memory. It will facilitate me making and you to understand what is stated in the sentence and in following clauses.

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                              Noon_waalqalami
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                              It seems that the point has finally got in to your brain. But are still shy to boldly accept it and stop playing with words.

                              Look how much you have eaten up in one simple sentence of Arabic, thereby, building up a theses without known what is stated therein.

                              There is a visible Pronoun in it. Almost all the translators tried to mention it by using adverb "there" which can be used as Pronoun introducing a sentence stating that something exists, develops, or can be seen. However, they overlooked that in Arabic it is not the case. In Arabic the Visible and Hidden Pronoun of a Verb must link back to known entity-entities or its Subject must be mentioned after it.

                              The above is undeniable established fact in linguistics.
                              Ponder over it, and let it get in memory. It will facilitate me making and you to understand what is stated in the sentence and in following clauses.

                              Why you still ranting, running away, trying to switch, and hide under bushes of grammar?

                              You now admit 2/3 is to women! You wrongly told a user 2/3 is to 1 daughter and 2 sons!
                              You wrote an article on inheritance and when asked to distribute -- you ran like a coward!

                              I'll ask you again; distribute the shares otherwise stay away from things you are clueless!

                              Two inheritors...

                              mother, father
                              mother, son
                              mother, daughter
                              mother, sister
                              mother, brother
                              mother, wife
                              mother, husband
                              father, son
                              father, daughter
                              father, sister
                              father, brother
                              father, wife
                              father, husband
                              son, daughter
                              son, sister
                              son, brother
                              son, wife
                              son, husband
                              daughter, sister
                              daughter, brother
                              daughter, wife
                              daughter, husband
                              sister, brother
                              sister, wife
                              sister, husband
                              brother, wife
                              brother, husband

                              Three inheritors...

                              mother, father, son
                              mother, father, daughter
                              mother, father, wife
                              mother, father, husband
                              mother, father, sister
                              mother, father, brother
                              mother, son, daughter
                              mother, son, wife
                              mother, son, husband
                              mother, son, sister
                              mother, son, brother
                              mother, daughter, wife
                              mother, daughter, husband
                              mother, daughter, sister
                              mother, daughter, brother
                              mother, wife, sister
                              mother, wife, brother
                              mother, husband, sister
                              mother, husband, brother
                              mother, sister, brother
                              father, son, daughter
                              father, son, wife
                              father, son, husband
                              father, son, sister
                              father, son, brother
                              father, daughter, wife
                              father, daughter, husband
                              father, daughter, sister
                              father, daughter, brother
                              father, wife, sister
                              father, wife, brother
                              father, husband, sister
                              father, husband, brother
                              father, sister, brother
                              son, daughter, wife
                              son, daughter, husband
                              son, daughter, sister
                              son, daughter, brother
                              son, wife, sister
                              son, wife, brother
                              son, husband, sister
                              son, husband, brother
                              son, sister, brother
                              daughter, wife, sister
                              daughter, wife, brother
                              daughter, husband, sister
                              daughter, husband, brother
                              daughter, sister, brother
                              wife, sister, brother
                              husband, sister, brother

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                                Recluse
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                                Cant we just let people themselves decide who they want to inherit after them ?? If someone wants to give all his property to his daughter and nothing to his son, then let him.

                                Peace

                                That would be unjust, also nobody "owns" anything. Allah says everything belongs to Him and He doesn't like injustice.

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                                  Mazhar
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                                  Noon Reply 54

                                  This was replied in Reply194 on your sticky thread.

                                  Man has left worldly wealth.

                                  Left wealth - Outstanding liabilities of the deceased = Divisible Inheritance

                                  Divisible Inheritance = 1

                                  a) The shares cut and apportioned by Allah the Exalted from Divisible Inheritance = X
                                  It is called by Allah . Inalienable and unalterable part cut and apportioned by Allah the Exalted.

                                  b) Divisible Inheritance - X = Y
                                  c) X + Y=1 . + [/size

                                  Allah the Exalted has covered all possible situations that could exist on ground relating to many many combinations of relatively nearer relatives. Relativity keep shifting to the remotest relationship step by step for which reason Comparitive Noun is used for .

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                                    Noon Reply 54

                                    This was replied in Reply194 on your sticky thread.

                                    Man has left worldly wealth.

                                    Left wealth - Outstanding liabilities of the deceased = Divisible Inheritance

                                    Divisible Inheritance = 1

                                    a) The shares cut and apportioned by Allah the Exalted from Divisible Inheritance = X
                                    It is called by Allah . Inalienable and unalterable part cut and apportioned by Allah the Exalted.

                                    b) Divisible Inheritance - X = Y
                                    c) X + Y=1 . + [/size

                                    Allah the Exalted has covered all possible situations that could exist on ground relating to many many combinations of relatively nearer relatives. Relativity keep shifting to the remotest relationship step by step for which reason Comparitive Noun is used for .

                                    What kind of reply is that?

                                    Did you not write to user that 1 daughter and 2 sons get 2/3?
                                    Did you not finally confess and admit that 2/3 is to women?
                                    Did you not attribute your stupidity as coming from Allah?
                                    Did you not again refuse to answer distributions asked?

                                    Here is my suggestion to you Mazhar

                                    1. remove everything that you wrote on your site immediately stop spreading your lies
                                    2. admit your error ask forgiveness for attributing your nonsense saying it is from Allah
                                    3. when asked about inheritance, admit you are clueless and refer to those who know

                                    Otherwise, you're a kufur/denier fit to be chastised/punished in this world and the next.

                                    Salaam!

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                                      Mazhar
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                                      What kind of reply is that?

                                      Did you not write to user that 1 daughter and 2 sons get 2/3?
                                      Did you not finally confess and admit that 2/3 is to women?
                                      Did you not attribute your stupidity as coming from Allah?
                                      Did you not again refuse to answer distributions asked?

                                      Here is my suggestion to you Mazhar

                                      1. remove everything that you wrote on your site immediately stop spreading your lies
                                      2. admit your error ask forgiveness for attributing your nonsense saying it is from Allah
                                      3. when asked about inheritance, admit you are clueless and refer to those who know

                                      Otherwise, you're a kufur/denier fit to be chastised/punished in this world and the next.

                                      Salaam!

                                      2/3 is whether there is one daughter and one son, whether two daughter and a son, whether two daughters only or more daughters only, one daughter and two sons get two third.

                                      You do not know to which identified noun the pronouns of the verbs refer, and yet have the loud mouth to call others stupid.

                                      Distribution of hundreds of combinations is given succintly by Qur'aan in two sentences which I have quoted to you.

                                      1- Your mathematic gimmick does not include those whom Allah has asked to pay their due share in the inheritance. Neither you accept that Ayah nor you rebut it but avoid attending it.

                                      2- There will never be only TWO beneficiary in the inheritance. This is the Verdict of Qir'aan which you neither accept nor rebut the Ayah quoted but avoid seeing it.

                                      You deny a part of the Qur'aan, you further say that in case there is a Will, the share allocating verses loose their ground. What an understanding?

                                      Those who do this are asked by Allah the Exalted, listen it with open ears

                                      Is it for reason that you accept some part of the Book and reject/deny some part of the Book?
                                      Therefore, the return-punishment, for anyone who does this act of accepting some and refusing some part of the Book from amongst you, shall be nothing except disgrace-ignominy in the life of this lowly world.
                                      Take note that such people will be taken to the grievous chastisement on the Day of Judgment.

                                      Noon Please Come to senses, sooner the better.

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                                        You're a clueless idiot! Tell us how falahunna/so to them (feminine) can be other than to females?

                                        411... so if are (feminine plural) nisa/women above two (feminine) falahunna/so to them (feminine) thulutha 2/3

                                        Do you not know that Hunna-a plural feminine pronoun refers back to identified and known women, and so is the Noon in Kunna. Who are those women you are reffering by pronoun "them"? Identify and relate them.

                                        2/3 is whether there is one daughter and one son, whether two daughter and a son, whether two daughters only or more daughters only, one daughter and two sons get two third.

                                        Mazhar -- you are proven denier/kufur of truth, a coward, a runaway, and one dumb stubborn ox!

                                        2855 ... peace onto you not we seek the ignorant!

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                                          Quote from Noon waalqalami on Today at 064044 AM
                                          You're a clueless idiot! Tell us how falahunna/so to them (feminine) can be other than to females?
                                          411... so if are (feminine plural) nisa/women above two (feminine) falahunna/so to them (feminine) thulutha 2/3

                                          Quote from Mazhar on Today at 070640 AM
                                          Do you not know that Hunna-a plural feminine pronoun refers back to identified and known women, and so is the Noon in Kunna. Who are those women you are reffering by pronoun "them"? Identify and relate them.

                                          Noon Peace

                                          You have also started behaving like a retarded child. Do you not see difference between "women" and "identified and known women"?

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