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Inheritance: Daughter not Son is the central theme of Inheritance.

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    Mazhar
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    #61

    Quote from Noon waalqalami on Today at 064044 AM
    You're a clueless idiot! Tell us how falahunna/so to them (feminine) can be other than to females?
    411... so if are (feminine plural) nisa/women above two (feminine) falahunna/so to them (feminine) thulutha 2/3

    Quote from Mazhar on Today at 070640 AM
    Do you not know that Hunna-a plural feminine pronoun refers back to identified and known women, and so is the Noon in Kunna. Who are those women you are reffering by pronoun "them"? Identify and relate them.

    Noon Peace

    You have also started behaving like a retarded child. Do you not see difference between "women" and "identified and known women"?

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      Noon_waalqalami
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      Noon Peace

      You have also started behaving like a retarded child. Do you not see difference between "women" and "identified and known women"?

      Peace Mazhar -- no, is there a son in the word women? Or perhaps show us explain and distribute?

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        Noon_waalqalami
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        #63

        What no answers? You wrote a rant on inheritance and when asked to distribute you run away?

        Peace Mazhar -- no, is there a son in the word women? Or perhaps show us explain and distribute?

        mother, father
        mother, son
        mother, 3 daughters
        mother, sister
        mother, brother
        mother, wife
        mother, husband
        father, son
        father, 3 daughters
        father, sister
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        father, wife
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          Mazhar
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          #64

          Dear Noon,

          The problem with you is that you are not interested to know the ABC of Arabic and have yet embarked upon a subject which is spread over couple of Verses.

          You seem not interested even in knowing individual words. This is the first step in reading a text. Then comes identifying Phrases, and lastly comes the sentence. How can you know the meanings and perception in the text of a foreign language without knowing these three things?

          You even do not see the difference of vowels. This is the Heart of Arabic. Vowels have meanings and connotations and they also represent words. This information might be Latin for you.

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            Noon_waalqalami
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            Dear Noon,

            The problem with you is that you are not interested to know the ABC of Arabic and have yet embarked upon a subject which is spread over couple of Verses.

            You seem not interested even in knowing individual words. This is the first step in reading a text. Then comes identifying Phrases, and lastly comes the sentence. How can you know the meanings and perception in the text of a foreign language without knowing these three things?

            You even do not see the difference of vowels. This is the Heart of Arabic. Vowels have meanings and connotations and they also represent words. This information might be Latin for you.

            Dear Mazhar -- you continue to be a coward and did not answer any of my simple questions.

            The problem with you is that you are clueless! You wrote a rant on a subject and when asked to put it in practice you keep running away! You continue to avoid! Do not be a coward and distribute the shares!

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              Mazhar
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              #66

              Now seriously telling you, there is immediate need to consult some psychariast.
              Tell him that you wish not understand the words of a language but want to be a scholar and that you are converting those sentences into mathematical calculations. I am afraid he might suggest electric shocks to remove this stupid thought from memory.

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                Raaajah
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                #67

                Is this relevant to adding up to 1 issue?

                Zakir Naik
                The Qur?an mentions about inheritance in many places, inSurah Al Baqarah chapter 2 verse 180Surah Al Baqarah chapter 2 verse 240Surah Al Nisa chapter 4 verses 7 to 9Surah Al Nisa chapter 4 verses19 and 33Surah Al Ma?idah chapter 5 verses 105 and 108 Regarding the share of inheritance it is clearly given in Surah Nisa chapter 4 verse 11, 12 and176. Let us examine the verses quoted by Arun Shourie, i.e. Surah Nisa chapter 4 verses 11 and12 "Allah (swt) (thus) directs you as regards your children?s(inheritance) to the male, a portionequal to that of two females if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of theinheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if nochildren, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased leftbrothers (or sisters) the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases is) after the paymentof legacies and debts. Ye know not whether your parents or your children are nearest to youin benefit. These are settled portions ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise." "In what your wives leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child; but if they leave child, yeget a fourth; after payment of legacies and debts. In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, ifye leave no child; but if ye leave a child, they get an eighth; after payment of legacies anddebts." Islam explains the law of inheritance in great detail. The broad and basic outline is given inthe Qur?an and the minute details are given in theAhadith i.e. the tradition and sayings of theProphet (pbuh). A person can spend his full life only on the research of the Islamic law of inheritance with itsvarious permutations and combinations. Arun Shourie expects to know the law only bysuperficially reading two verses of the Qur?an without knowing the criteria. It is similar to a person who wants to solve a mathematical equation but does not know thebasic rule of mathematics, i.e. BODMAS which says that in a mathematical equation,irrespective of which mathematical sign appears first, you will first solve BODMAS 1stBrackets Off, 2nd Division, 3rd Multiplication, 4th Addition and 5th Subtraction. If ArunShourie does not know mathematics and first does multiplication then subtraction, thenbrackets off, then division and finally addition, the answer that he will obtain is bound to bewrong.
                similarly, when the Qur?an mentions the law of inheritance in Surah Nisa chapter 4 verses 11and 12, even though the children?s share is mentioned first and then that of the parents andspouses, according to the law of inheritance in Islam after paying off the debts and liabilitiesfirst, the share is given to the spouses and the parents depending on whether the deceasedhas left children or not, and whatever portion of wealth is remaining is divided between thesons and the daughters according to their respective shares.So where does the question arise of the total coming to more than one? So it is not Allah whodoes not know mathematics but it is Arun Shourie himself who is ignorant about mathematics

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                  Mazhar
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                  #68

                  Assalamo Alaikum, Raaajah after a long time you are noticed.

                  Unfortunately Zakir Naik with such an excellent memory is little interested in reading the Arabic of Qur'aan and relies on translation material. There is never a problem of less than one or more than one. The

                  The division of Inheritance is based upon

                  (a) the Bequest to be bequeathed by the Dying Person for Mother and/or Father; other surviving kin including orphaned grand-progeny, etc described by Plural Noun .

                  (b) the Shares Permanently Cut, Determined and set aside by Allah the Exalted out of the Whole Wealth- the Binding Promulgation from Allah the Exalted annulling-superseding the Will in times after the death of person to the extent of shares apportioned by Allah the Exalted.

                  How can it be less than one or more than one?

                  Daughter not Son is the central theme of Inheritance. It is incumbent upon death expecting wealthy person to bequeath for the Mother and Father; and nearer relatives.

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                    Noon_waalqalami
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                    #69

                    Is this relevant to adding up to 1 issue?

                    Zakir Naik

                    Peace Raaajah, that guy is clueless.

                    How can it be less than one or more than one?

                    Hey Raaajah, watch Mazhar run when asked to distribute...

                    1 son, 3 daughters, mother, father, wife, 1 sister, 1 brother = ?
                    3 daughters, mother, father, husband = ?

                    mother, father = ?
                    mother, 1 sister = ?
                    mother, 1 brother = ?

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                      Noon_waalqalami
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                      As stated, this coward Mazhar is clueless; writes articles then runs away, avoids answering, and continues to rant!

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