Ordinary Miracle (the English Trailer)
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English trailer of the upcoming docufilm on code 19...
We will inshallah publish the English dubbed documentary at my youtube channel within a week.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QfVxr47KsI
The 30+ minute film is made by Aslbek Mussin.
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That is one fancy-looking trailer, very professional!
However, a pig with lipstick applied to its snout is still a pig, just like numerology fancily dressed up with computer graphics still is not science, nor miraculous.The Quran has prophetically described people like you very well in chapter 74. So, we know you very well.. Your fear and anger is well-understood by us.
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The Quran has prophetically described people like you very well in chapter 74. So, we know you very well.. Your fear and anger is well-understood by us.
Those infatuated with nineteen are the most ignorant on the planet; next to missionaries and followers of hearsay.
-- first nineteen letters... tempt
9129 so if they turn away say sufficient for me The God not deity only He on to Him I put my trust and He Lord The Throne The Great
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Dear Edip, many people have told you what I am about to attempt to tell you. I have no particular reason to believe you will understand this time either, but I will do my best anyway
Imagine that the Book of God is like an oasis surrounded by a desert. This desert is littered with countless encampments of people. They are trying to cultivate their own plants to match those of the oasis, but for lack of good seeds, good soil or sufficient water they all fail.
Inside the oasis proper reside those who heed and obey the revealed words of God. They are more or less aware of the many wonderful aspects of absolute truth that can be understood by simply relaxing in the pleasant shade of the trees, drinking the water, looking around and contemplating reality with a humble heart and no particular personal agenda.
On the very edge of the oasis is a group of people, shading their eyes from the blazing sun and squinting towards the horizon. Some of them are very loud, and one of them is the very loudest. "Look, a mirage in the distance!" he shouts to all who will hear. "We can see a mirage! Isn't it wonderful? It's the greatest miracle we have ever seen! It's clearly a sign from God!"
A man from inside the oasis comes up and says in a kind and gentle way "Loud man, please lower your voice, there is no need to shout. What is this obsession with the mirage? What can you learn by endlessly gazing at a flickering image beyond the horizon? You are almost as foolish as those people over there trying to grow their own plants in the hot sun. Will you please turn around and come with me into the shade of this wonderful oasis where there are many things to discover?"
"Why are you running away from the wonders of the mirage? Here is a personal insult for you!" shouts the loud man. -
Dear Edip, many people have told you what I am about to attempt to tell you. I have no particular reason to believe you will understand this time either, but I will do my best anyway
Imagine that the Book of God is like an oasis surrounded by a desert. This desert is littered with countless encampments of people. They are trying to cultivate their own plants to match those of the oasis, but for lack of good seeds, good soil or sufficient water they all fail.
Inside the oasis proper reside those who heed and obey the revealed words of God. They are more or less aware of the many wonderful aspects of absolute truth that can be understood by simply relaxing in the pleasant shade of the trees, drinking the water, looking around and contemplating reality with a humble heart and no particular personal agenda.
On the very edge of the oasis is a group of people, shading their eyes from the blazing sun and squinting towards the horizon. Some of them are very loud, and one of them is the very loudest. "Look, a mirage in the distance!" he shouts to all who will hear. "We can see a mirage! Isn't it wonderful? It's the greatest miracle we have ever seen! It's clearly a sign from God!"
A man from inside the oasis comes up and says in a kind and gentle way "Loud man, please lower your voice, there is no need to shout. What is this obsession with the mirage? What can you learn by endlessly gazing at a flickering image beyond the horizon? You are almost as foolish as those people over there trying to grow their own plants in the hot sun. Will you please turn around and come with me into the shade of this wonderful oasis where there are many things to discover?"
"Why are you running away from the wonders of the mirage? Here is a personal insult for you!" shouts the loud man.Salaam Magnus,
Very nice!!! Is it yours?
Salaam,
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Dear Edip, many people have told you what I am about to attempt to tell you. I have no particular reason to believe you will understand this time either, but I will do my best anyway
Imagine that the Book of God is like an oasis surrounded by a desert. This desert is littered with countless encampments of people. They are trying to cultivate their own plants to match those of the oasis, but for lack of good seeds, good soil or sufficient water they all fail.
Inside the oasis proper reside those who heed and obey the revealed words of God. They are more or less aware of the many wonderful aspects of absolute truth that can be understood by simply relaxing in the pleasant shade of the trees, drinking the water, looking around and contemplating reality with a humble heart and no particular personal agenda.
On the very edge of the oasis is a group of people, shading their eyes from the blazing sun and squinting towards the horizon. Some of them are very loud, and one of them is the very loudest. "Look, a mirage in the distance!" he shouts to all who will hear. "We can see a mirage! Isn't it wonderful? It's the greatest miracle we have ever seen! It's clearly a sign from God!"
A man from inside the oasis comes up and says in a kind and gentle way "Loud man, please lower your voice, there is no need to shout. What is this obsession with the mirage? What can you learn by endlessly gazing at a flickering image beyond the horizon? You are almost as foolish as those people over there trying to grow their own plants in the hot sun. Will you please turn around and come with me into the shade of this wonderful oasis where there are many things to discover?"
"Why are you running away from the wonders of the mirage? Here is a personal insult for you!" shouts the loud man.Applies equaly well to people who think their fasts are going to make them do all the right things , why the hell don't they simply start to do the right things!
And so many more of us.......
confused
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The Quran has prophetically described people like you very well in chapter 74. So, we know you very well.. Your fear and anger is well-understood by us.
Edip, do you believe a muslim has to believe in code 19 to be a proper Muslim and achieve salvation?
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Edip, do you believe a muslim has to believe in code 19 to be a proper Muslim and achieve salvation?
"Believe"? It has nothing to do with believing...
What about reading some of the articles here, as a starter?
http//19.org/category/yuksel/19-gods-signature-in-nature-and-scripture/
Peace,
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"People of the oasis, you are not worthy to approach my person until you have read all the many, many words I have written about the most glorious and fantastic sign of the mirage! I insult you all!" shouted the loud man.
One man from the oasis said to the loud man
"Peace be upon you! We have heard you talk to some of the encampments, which you manage to do with some knowledge and grace. You correctly point out the futility and corruption of the plants they grow themselves out there, and you invite them leave all that behind and to go towards the oasis where God has left his many, many signs.
-Why is it that your behaviour changes completely when you shout to the people who are actually in the oasis about this wondrous mirage that you are clearly obsessing over. When you are challenged to produce even one good argument for why the mirage of something is better than all the very firm and tangible lessons to be learned by examining the oasis, right here, you change the subject and come with personal insults. When asked if one can actually measure or define this mirage, or if any firm and authoritative conclusions can be drawn from looking at it, you run away like a horse-like creature, possibly striped, while shouting about your previous writings as you leave us behind you, running for the desert where this mirage can be seen. You are unbalanced and clearly astray. Please let go of this mirage, and the memory of the man that first showed it to you, and please come with us inside this wonderful oasis where many firm lessons can be learned." -
"Believe"? It has nothing to do with believing...
What about reading some of the articles here, as a starter?
http//19.org/category/yuksel/19-gods-signature-in-nature-and-scripture/
Peace,
EdipAccept Code 19 then. I'm sure you know what I mean even if my language conveys it poorly.
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Magnus, your story is just a story, a literary piece, with no philosophical merit. Besides, it distorts the facts, since 19 is mentioned in the Quran and all the major elements of the Quran (oasis in your example), including the letter/number combinations starting chapters, the first and the most frequent verse of the Quran, the number of chapters, etc are all based on the number 19. Besides its perfect integration of math (the divine language in universe) with human language, it is also an incredible prophecy... In other words, it is you who is confusing real oasis with mirage.
Your fancy words and scenario might impress some people who have problem with critical thinking, who wish to find an excuse, any excuse to escape from "one of the greatest signs" like a zebra, but those who are aware of the fact that "extra-ordinary claims need extra ordinary evidences" will just smile at your fancy.
For those who wish to read some articles on this issue, please visit
http//19.org/category/yuksel/19-gods-signature-in-nature-and-scripture/
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Magnus, your story is just a story, a literary piece, with no philosophical merit. Besides, it distorts the facts, since 19 is mentioned in the Quran
No such thing is mentioned in Qur'aan. What is mentioned in Qur'aan is Nineteen Males.
Arabic is not English. In English 19 is a number, and also something in a numbered series.
In Arabic it is only ninteteen male objects-personsNinteen Males
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Dear Edip, many people have told you what I am about to attempt to tell you. I have no particular reason to believe you will understand this time either, but I will do my best anyway
Imagine that the Book of God is like an oasis surrounded by a desert. This desert is littered with countless encampments of people. They are trying to cultivate their own plants to match those of the oasis, but for lack of good seeds, good soil or sufficient water they all fail.
Inside the oasis proper reside those who heed and obey the revealed words of God. They are more or less aware of the many wonderful aspects of absolute truth that can be understood by simply relaxing in the pleasant shade of the trees, drinking the water, looking around and contemplating reality with a humble heart and no particular personal agenda.
On the very edge of the oasis is a group of people, shading their eyes from the blazing sun and squinting towards the horizon. Some of them are very loud, and one of them is the very loudest. "Look, a mirage in the distance!" he shouts to all who will hear. "We can see a mirage! Isn't it wonderful? It's the greatest miracle we have ever seen! It's clearly a sign from God!"
A man from inside the oasis comes up and says in a kind and gentle way "Loud man, please lower your voice, there is no need to shout. What is this obsession with the mirage? What can you learn by endlessly gazing at a flickering image beyond the horizon? You are almost as foolish as those people over there trying to grow their own plants in the hot sun. Will you please turn around and come with me into the shade of this wonderful oasis where there are many things to discover?"
"Why are you running away from the wonders of the mirage? Here is a personal insult for you!" shouts the loud man.Personally, from learning about the miracle of 19 in teh Quran, i because absolutely certain that God existed... It would be like finding traces of UFO's on Mars and being absolutely certain that other life entities existed...
And one of purposes of eh number 19 is to INCREASE the faith of believers, and the people of the book would have no doubt... read 7430+
However, currently i do not believe in deleting 2 verses of the Quran, and thus i would believe that more research needs to be done with the number 19 on other Quran versions, not just the Hafs version.
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Personally, from learning about the miracle of 19 in teh Quran, i because absolutely certain that God existed... It would be like finding traces of UFO's on Mars and being absolutely certain that other life entities existed...
And one of purposes of eh number 19 is to INCREASE the faith of believers, and the people of the book would have no doubt... read 7430+
However, currently i do not believe in deleting 2 verses of the Quran, and thus i would believe that more research needs to be done with the number 19 on other Quran versions, not just the Hafs version.
I do agree with this opinion. Qur'an does seem to contain some mathematical structure as written by Layth about the Warsh and Hafs editions but I believe alternate possibilities must be explored as well to see how this could turn out.
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Why would the Koran require verification?
Does using cheap parlour tricks prove anything?
What if a claim was shown to be wrong? Would that disprove the entire Koran?
What if another book would conform in all ways to "23"? Would it be more verified than a book only in compliance with "19"? -
What if another book would conform in all ways to "23"? Would it be more verified than a book only in compliance with "19"?
Those infatuated with number are ignorant on basic math and no need for another book since most any prime number like 23 would suffice same which of course the higher the number the harder to find multiples like 29 ...
29 words in 1st chapter...
ch verse words letters
1 1 4 19
1 2 4 17
1 3 2 12
1 4 3 11
1 5 4 19
1 6 3 18
1 7 9 437 + 28 + 29 + 139 = 203 (i.e. 7 x 29!)
Ch W LTRs V GV
1 4 19 1 26040 130305 13020084050 13020081040
1 4 17 2 1308404 30305 2002 1307030401050
1 2 12 3 13020084050 13020081040
1 3 11 4 403020 10640 13041050
1 4 19 5 110120 507024 6110120 5060400701050
1 3 18 6 154501 130902009 13040604001001040
1 9 43 7 902009 1307001050 1507040400 703010540 100010200 13040100080062 703010540 6301 1308001301050Copy/paste above ch 1 sequence into calculator http//markknowsnothing.com/cgi-bin/calculator.cgi
See that the above sequence is divisible by 29!
Ch_______V_____Ch*V____Ch+V___57 Odd___57 Even
1st Half____________________________29 Odd____28 Even
1________7________7_________8________________8
2________286______572_______288______________288
3________200______600_______203_______203
4________176______704_______180______________180
5________120______600_______125_______125
6________165______990_______171_______171
7________206______1442______213_______213
8________75_______600_______83________83
9________129______1161______138______________138
10_______109______1090______119_______119
11_______123______1353______134______________134
12_______111______1332______123_______123
13_______43_______559_______56_______________56
14_______52_______728_______66_______________66
15_______99_______1485______114______________114
16_______128______2048______144______________144
17_______111______1887______128______________128
18_______110______1980______128______________128
19_______98_______1862______117_______117
20_______135______2700______155_______155
21_______112______2352______133_______133
22_______78_______1716______100______________100
23_______118______2714______141_______141
24_______64_______1536______88_______________88
25_______77_______1925______102______________102
26_______227______5902______253_______253
27_______93_______2511______120______________120
28_______88_______2464______116______________116
29_______69_______2001______98_______________98
30_______60_______1800______90_______________90
31_______34_______1054______65________65
32_______30_______960_______62_______________62
33_______73_______2409______106______________106
34_______54_______1836______88_______________88
35_______45_______1575______80_______________80
36_______83_______2988______119_______119
37_______182______6734______219_______219
38_______88_______3344______126______________126
39_______75_______2925______114______________114
40_______85_______3400______125_______125
41_______54_______2214______95________95
42_______53_______2226______95________95
43_______89_______3827______132______________132
44_______59_______2596______103_______103
45_______37_______1665______82_______________82
46_______35_______1610______81________81
47_______38_______1786______85________85
48_______29_______1392______77________77
49_______18_______882_______67________67
50_______45_______2250______95________95
51_______60_______3060______111_______111
52_______49_______2548______101_______101
53_______62_______3286______115_______115
54_______55_______2970______109_______109
55_______78_______4290______133_______133
56_______96_______5376______152______________152
57_______29_______1653______86_______________861653____5104_______________6757 Totals 1st Half
1653 = 57 x 29!
5104 = 176 x 29!
6757 = 233 x 29!2nd Half____________________________28 Odd___29 Even
58 = 2 x 29!
58_______22_______1276______80_______________80
59_______24_______1416______83________83
60_______13_______780_______73________73
61_______14_______854_______75________75
62_______11_______682_______73________73
63_______11_______693_______74_______________74
64_______18_______1152______82_______________82
65_______12_______780_______77________77
66_______12_______792_______78_______________78
67_______30_______2010______97________97
68_______52_______3536______120______________120
69_______52_______3588______121_______121
70_______44_______3080______114______________114
71_______28_______1988______99________99
72_______28_______2016______100______________100
73_______20_______1460______93________93
74_______56_______4144______130______________130
75_______40_______3000______115_______115
76_______31_______2356______107_______107
77_______50_______3850______127_______127
78_______40_______3120______118______________118
79_______46_______3634______125_______125
80_______42_______3360______122______________122
81_______29_______2349______110______________110
82_______19_______1558______101_______101
83_______36_______2988______119_______119
84_______25_______2100______109_______109
85_______22_______1870______107_______107
86_______17_______1462______103_______103
87_______19_______1653______106______________106
88_______26_______2288______114______________114
89_______30_______2670______119_______119
90_______20_______1800______110______________110
91_______15_______1365______106______________106
92_______21_______1932______113_______113
93_______11_______1023______104______________104
94_______8________752_______102______________102
95_______8________760_______103_______103
96_______19_______1824______115_______115
97_______5________485_______102______________102
98_______8________784_______106______________106
99_______8________792_______107_______107
100______11_______1100______111_______111
101______11_______1111______112______________112
102______8________816_______110______________110
103______3________309_______106______________106
104______9________936_______113_______113
105______5________525_______110______________110
106______4________424_______110______________110
107______7________749_______114______________114
108______3________324_______111_______111
109______6________654_______115_______115
110______3________330_______113_______113
111______5________555_______116______________116
112______4________448_______116______________116
113______5________565_______118______________118
114______6________684_______120______________1206555 6236 209029 12791 6555 6236 = 22605598692768664798812284 x 29!
Likewise, changing Chapter & Verses OR Odd & Even columns totals are still a multiple of 29!
6236 6555 209029 12791 6555 6236 = 22605598692768664798702295 x 29!
6555 6236 209029 12791 6236 6555 = 21505708692768664798812284 x 29!
6236 6555 209029 12791 6236 6555 = 21505708692768664798702295 x 29!
29 is prime!
12791 is prime!
209029 is prime!All chapters with an odd number of verses are a multiple ...
7165751291091231114399111135772279369734583758553895937352945495529131111312919251719152111195111139573355
= 29 x ...
29 initialed chapters in Qur'an.
Ltrs Ch Initials
1 3 2 Alif-Lm-Mm
2 3 3 Alif-Lm-Mm
3 4 7 Alif-Lm-Mm-d
4 3 10 'Alif-Lm-R
5 3 11 'Alif-Lm-R
6 3 12 'Alif-Lm-R
7 4 13 'Alif-Lm-Mm-R
8 3 14 'Alif-Lm-R
9 3 15 'Alif-Lm-R
10 5 19 Kf-H-Y-`Ayn-d
11 2 20 h
12 3 26 -Sn-Mm
13 2 27 -Sn
14 3 28 -Sn-Mm
15 3 29 Alif-Lm-Mm
16 3 30 Alif-Lm-Mm
17 3 31 Alif-Lm-Mm
18 3 32 Alif-Lm-Mm
19 2 36 Y -Sn
20 1 38 d
21 2 40 -Mm
22 2 41 -Mm
23 5 42 -Mm-Ayn-Sin-Qf
24 2 43 -Mm
25 2 44 -Mm
26 2 45 -Mm
27 2 46 -Mm
28 1 50 Qf
29 1 68 Noon435 78 822 = 1502718 x 29
Even and Odd verses totals are multiple of 29!
Even Odd
7
286
200
176
120
165
206
75
129
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4
5
63514 2722 = 1211818 x 29
Likewise with chapter added
Even Chapter Odd
.........1 7
286 ...2........9 129
......113 5
6 114
3514 6555 2722 = 12119501818 x 29
All the Fibonacci stuff applies ...
http//www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibtable.html
Fibonacci (29) = 514229 is prime and ratio of consecutive Fibonacci numbers approaches the "golden number" Phi
Fibonacci (30) 832040 / Fibonacci (29) 514229 = 1.618033988748...ch_____verses___ch*verses
1________7________7
2________286______572
3________200______600
4________176______704
5________120______600
6________165______990
7________206______1442
8________75_______600
9________129______1161112______4________448
113______5________565
114______6________6846555 6236 209029 Totals
6555 - 6236 = 11 x 29
832040 - 514229 = 10959 x 29
6555 6236 - 6236 6555 = 109989 x 29832040 - 6555 = 28465 x 29
832040 - 6236 = 28476 x 296555 6236 832040 = 2260559890760 x 29
6236 6555 832040 = 2150570890760 x 296555 6236 209029 832040 = 2260559869276890760 x 29
6236 6555 209029 832040 = 2150570869276890760 x 29514229 - 6555 = 17506 x 29
514229 - 6236 = 17517 x 296555 6236 514229 = 2260559879801 x 29
6236 6555 514229 = 2150570879801 x 296555 6236 209029 514229 = 2260559869276879801 x 29
6236 6555 209029 514229 = 2150570869276879801 x 29This is very cool with Saad which there are exactly 29 and verses it appears...
381 Saad and the Qur'an full the reminder
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20
21
22
24
28
31
36
37
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41
44
45
46
47
52
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63
64
69
83981 Total
136131517202122242831363738414445464752565963646983 981 = ... x 29!
Likewise with Noon and verses which it appears ...
681 Noon and the pen and what they write
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2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
21
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25
26
27
28
29
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31
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521318 Total
1234567891011121314151617181921222324252627282930313233343536373839414243444546474849505152 1318 = ... x 29!
To verify simply copy/paste and divide by 29 http//www.markknowsnothing.com/cgi-bin/calculator.php
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Dear Edip, many people have told you what I am about to attempt to tell you. I have no particular reason to believe you will understand this time either, but I will do my best anyway
Imagine that the Book of God is like an oasis surrounded by a desert. This desert is littered with countless encampments of people. They are trying to cultivate their own plants to match those of the oasis, but for lack of good seeds, good soil or sufficient water they all fail.
Inside the oasis proper reside those who heed and obey the revealed words of God. They are more or less aware of the many wonderful aspects of absolute truth that can be understood by simply relaxing in the pleasant shade of the trees, drinking the water, looking around and contemplating reality with a humble heart and no particular personal agenda.
On the very edge of the oasis is a group of people, shading their eyes from the blazing sun and squinting towards the horizon. Some of them are very loud, and one of them is the very loudest. "Look, a mirage in the distance!" he shouts to all who will hear. "We can see a mirage! Isn't it wonderful? It's the greatest miracle we have ever seen! It's clearly a sign from God!"
A man from inside the oasis comes up and says in a kind and gentle way "Loud man, please lower your voice, there is no need to shout. What is this obsession with the mirage? What can you learn by endlessly gazing at a flickering image beyond the horizon? You are almost as foolish as those people over there trying to grow their own plants in the hot sun. Will you please turn around and come with me into the shade of this wonderful oasis where there are many things to discover?"
"Why are you running away from the wonders of the mirage? Here is a personal insult for you!" shouts the loud man.Excellent and very truthful analogy.