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    herbman
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    Salam and Peace,

    first things first angel is not a good translation of MALAIKA other here translate it by controllers

    definition of the root from PRL

    Miim-Lam-Kaf = to rule/command/reign, be capable, to control, power/authority, king, kingdom.

    Also see root Lam-Alif-Kaf

    malaka vb. (1)
    perf. act. 43, 424, 425, 436, 1671, 236, 2431, 2433, 2458, 2461, 3028, 3350, 3352, 3355, 7030
    impf. act. 517, 525, 541, 576, 7188, 1031, 1049, 1316, 1673, 1756, 17100, 1987, 2089, 253, 253, 2723, 2917, 3422, 3442, 3513, 3943, 4386, 468, 4811, 604, 7221, 7837, 8219
    n.vb. (1) malk 2087
    n.vb. (2) mulk 2102, 2107, 2247, 2247, 2247, 2248, 2251, 2258, 326, 326, 326, 3189, 453, 454, 517, 518, 540, 5120, 673, 7158, 9116, 12101, 17111, 20120, 2256, 2442, 252, 252, 2526, 3513, 3810, 3820, 3835, 396, 3944, 4016, 4029, 4249, 4351, 4385, 4527, 4814, 572, 575, 641, 671, 7620, 859
    pcple. act. 14, 326, 3671
    pcple. pass. 1675

    malak n.m. 2102, 68, 68, 69, 650, 720, 1112, 1131, 1231, 1795, 257, 3211, 5326, 6917, 8922

    malakut n.m. 675, 7185, 2388, 3683

    malik n.m. (pl. muluk) 2246, 2247, 520, 1243, 1250, 1254, 1272, 1276, 1879, 20114, 23116, 2734, 5923, 621, 1142

    malik n.m. 5455

    malik n. prop. 4377

    LL, V8, p 277

    WINGS

    Jiim-Nun-Ha = to lean/incline, to bend/stoop, side.
    ribs of the breast, upper/anterior ribs next to the breast/heart (so-called because they incline over the heart), something one uses to lean on/to one side (upper-arm, shoulder, elbow, hand),
    wing/power, "lower your wing" is an idiomatic metaphor for love/tenderness/humility, evocative of a bird that lovingly spreads its wings over its offspring in the nest, shadow/shelter/protection, armpit,
    assistant,
    going quickly/swiftly (said of an animal due to them leaning forward as they run),
    a sin or crime, act of disobedience/blame.

    janaha vb. (1)
    perf. act. 861
    impv. 861

    janah n.com. (pl. ajnihah) 638, 1588, 1724, 2022, 26215, 2832, 351

    junah n.m. 2158, 2198, 2229, 2230, 2233, 2233, 2234, 2235, 2236, 2240, 2282, 423, 424, 4101, 4102, 4128, 593, 2429, 2458, 2460, 2461, 335, 3351, 3355, 6010

    Lane's Lexicon, Volume 2, page 104, 105

    Hope it helps

    Peace

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      youssef4342
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      I personally believe that Yes Angels do have wings. However, they are created from other materials.

      God Also cites in the Quran that he made some creations which walk on 4 or 2 legs or on their stomachs.... and that there is different colors, races, languages etc.

      it's understandable that there is different creations with different features, even if they're from the same species.

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        mirjamnur
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        Salam herbman
        yes it helps, thank you.

        Jiim-Nun-Ha = to lean/incline, to bend/stoop, side.
        ribs of the breast, upper/anterior ribs next to the breast/heart (so-called because they incline over the heart), something one uses to lean on/to one side (upper-arm, shoulder, elbow, hand),
        wing/power, "lower your wing" is an idiomatic metaphor for love/tenderness/humility, evocative of a bird that lovingly spreads its wings over its offspring in the nest, shadow/shelter/protection, armpit,
        assistant,going quickly/swiftly (said of an animal due to them leaning forward as they run),
        a sin or crime, act of disobedience/blame.

        very interesting- if we look at the heart and we think that it isn't only a machine, and we see the meaning of 'wings' it becomes a new and (for me) logic meaning... )

        Salam Youssef

        I personally believe that Yes Angels do have wings. However, they are created from other materials.

        God Also cites in the Quran that he made some creations which walk on 4 or 2 legs or on their stomachs.... and that there is different colors, races, languages etc.it's understandable that there is different creations with different features, even if they're from the same species.

        but your quoted creations are stated as Bashar when i'm remember well. I personally believe that the controller / angels are from the same 'material' as the Ginn. that they are the ginn who are completely obedient and instructed by God to carry out special orders (thanks to their total loyalty to God).
        but it's from the 'ghaib'- so we will not know it exactly until we will see them.
        Thank you two for your answers )
        Salams

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          youssef4342
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          well, actually i was citing the different creations.

          Yes Angels are made in a different way, however they could have shapes that resemble wings.

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            Maha
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            Salam all

            Because i and Nomad like to know )

            351

            Sahih International
            praise is to Allah , Creator of the heavens and the earth, made the angels messengers having wings, two or three or four. He increases in creation what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent.

            wings? Angel messengers? Correct translation? Other thoughts ? Ahadith says Angel can have more then 500 wings... hmm

            Thank all for clarification and Salam peace

            As I understands it, two or three or four means 'in groups'. God made the angels in a lot of groups. Perhaps it was an old metaphor in arabic once.

            Peace

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              mirjamnur
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              As I understands it, two or three or four means 'in groups'. God made the angels in a lot of groups. Perhaps it was an old metaphor in arabic once.

              Peace

              Salam Maha
              from where you get this information?? Have you a source? Thank you for clarification.
              Peace peace

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                marifhaq
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                Dear Mirjamnur and others,salam

                Well this may be problem of tramslation,because having wings mean to fly like a bird,but angels having wings make no sense,because with wings you can fly only in air and not in atmosphere where there is no air,so this is metaphorous.one writer says wings mean groups,I think this is better translation.It is believed that the horse like flying animal who took Prophet to up in the heavens had wings too.This is meant for the peoples understanding 1450 years back,who thought that to go to Allah up in the heavens one must have wings,a commonsense at that time.thanks

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                  mirjamnur
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                  Salam
                  thanks for all the answers

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                    aabdul
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                    Salam all

                    Because i and Nomad like to know )

                    351

                    Sahih International
                    praise is to Allah , Creator of the heavens and the earth, made the angels messengers having wings, two or three or four. He increases in creation what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent.

                    wings? Angel messengers? Correct translation? Other thoughts ? Ahadith says Angel can have more then 500 wings... hmm

                    Thank all for clarification and Salam peace

                    Angels are not the winged creatures so popularly depicted, but heavenly forces that carry out the laws of Allah Almighty governing the universe. They figuratively bow to Allah Almighty since they follow His orders, and they ?bow? to mankind because we are able to study, manipulate, and conquer them.

                    The following is the translation given by GA Parwez for verse 351

                    "All Hamd is for Allah the Almighty (11), Who brought the entire universe into being out of nothingness. He has made the heavenly forces a medium to complete His schemes; and some of the forces are multi-functional, each having two, three or four capabilities. He is not sitting idle after creating the universe, but continues to add new creations to it every now and then, as He wills. He has set measures (and laws) according to which everything functions; and He has full control over them"

                    http//www.tolueislam.org/Parwez/expo/expo_035.htm

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                      NOMAD
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                      Salam and thank mirjamnur good post

                      i think truth is between what aabdul post and herbman post.. need to study this
                      Thanks and may Allah guide us into enlightment

                      SAlaam/PEACE/PAZ

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                        Bender
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                        I personally believe that Yes Angels do have wings. However, they are created from other materials.

                        God Also cites in the Quran that he made some creations which walk on 4 or 2 legs or on their stomachs.... and that there is different colors, races, languages etc.

                        it's understandable that there is different creations with different features, even if they're from the same species.

                        Salaam,

                        What do they do with the wings?

                        Salaam,
                        Bender

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