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The creation of the heavens and the Earth

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    Man_of_Faith
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    Imran,

    There is absolutely no need for God to travel at all, God is everywhere at the same time. No angels would have to travel either because they are not bound to the physical.

    Be well
    Amenuel

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      Man_of_Faith
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      'Stops' arguments are perfectly sound.

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        imrankhawaja
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        Imran,

        There is absolutely no need for God to travel at all, God is everywhere at the same time. No angels would have to travel either because they are not bound to the physical.

        Be well
        Amenuel

        PICKTHALL
        (Whereby) the angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day whereof the span is fifty thousand years.

        SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
        The angels and the Spirit will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.

        YUSUF ALI
        The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years chapter 70 verse 4

        peace mof,
        i want you to interprete this verse whatever understanding you have regarding to your interpretation, then we will proceed talking,

        God bless you.

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          Man_of_Faith
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          Do you honestly believe in that nonsense?

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            imrankhawaja
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            Do you honestly believe in that nonsense?

            thats what i m saying , arabic wordly meanings are like this , anyway thats what i ask from you, in your understanding how will we encounter these verses,

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              Man_of_Faith
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              Imran,

              You would have to do a deep-down investigation of the words in ancient lexicons and see if they have an alternative etymological origin in conjunction with a check against the literal language of the verse. You would also need to check if ALL words used are truly understood properly including grammar words deemed as unquestionable and obvious.

              It is a huge project.

              Be well
              Amenuel

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                Wakas
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                I like this post
                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604670.msg314093#msg314093

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  parvez_mushtaq
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                  Do you honestly believe in that nonsense?

                  I dont know what is "that nonsense" you are talking about MOF

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                    parvez_mushtaq
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                    PICKTHALL
                    (Whereby) the angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day whereof the span is fifty thousand years.

                    SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
                    The angels and the Spirit will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.

                    YUSUF ALI
                    The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years chapter 70 verse 4

                    peace mof,
                    i want you to interprete this verse whatever understanding you have regarding to your interpretation, then we will proceed talking,

                    God bless you.

                    I think you got him ,Imran .Good thinking bravo

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      Parvez,

                      So you claim Allah/God/Rabb has a location to travel to? So God could be like the man on the moon?

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        @ pervez , my brother my attentions are not to got somebody its not a race or competetion we all are brother and come here on this forum to make our understanding more clear about concepts, peace.

                        @mof , i can understand what you are trying to say but i m asking an experty advise becoz you know well about these types of interpretation so i need your help to understand these verses, that what i m asking from you just interpret it for me , just for understanding and finding a way out how to encounter all these things which can confuse our understanding, it will be very useful for me,

                        peace

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                          imrankhawaja
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                          I like this post
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604670.msg314093#msg314093

                          peace,

                          i like that post as well, i have similar understanding, but in the view of ideas everybody can have a right to put their ideas and then calculate results honestly , so that what i was asking from MOF bender and everybody to present their ideas , becoz what i understand they consider angles beings differently what majority believes ,

                          peace.

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