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Do we need a group "The Quranist"?

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    AliHuzaifa
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    Possible as only today I was thinking about a hadith, which said something like this 'You should wish for your brother what you wish for yourself' and I thought this could be an everyday version of what the Qur'an says;
    832 Those who, when they have to receive by measure from men, exact full measure,
    833 But when they have to give by measure or weight to men, give less than due.
    Salaam

    farida, this is what I have always said on this forum, Muhammed(s) and Quraan is no different, and if u ever find any thing contradicting between this two, stick with QURAAN.

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      guys can u please stop posting salaam on every post?

      am I suppose to reply ur salaam in every post? &

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        inquisitivetrini
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        farida, this is what I have always said on this forum, Muhammed(s) and Quraan is no different, and if u ever find any thing contradicting between this two, stick with QURAAN.

        If Quran is the last resort to stick to....then why not simply do the last three words?

        Peace. peace

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          inquisitivetrini
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          guys can u please stop posting salaam on every post?

          am I suppose to reply ur salaam in every post? &

          Hahaha, YES YOU HAVE TO! OR ELSE voodoo OR elektro OR eat

          rotfl

          I personally don't think it's that serious. As long as you feel you're being polite and you've greeted everyone already. yay

          peace

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            AliHuzaifa
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            If Quran is the last resort to stick to....then why not simply do the last three words?

            Peace. peace

            following life of MUHAMMED(s) makes easy atleast for me to perform ISLAMIC DUTIES, example namaaz,haj,roza...or it would be too tuff for me to literally understand concept of this things from QURAAN ALONE.

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              AliHuzaifa
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              Hahaha, YES YOU HAVE TO! OR ELSE voodoo OR elektro OR eat

              rotfl

              I personally don't think it's that serious. As long as you feel you're being polite and you've greeted everyone already. yay

              peace

              please spare me, I am not even married yet rotfl

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                inquisitivetrini
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                please spare me, I am not even married yet rotfl

                Lol! No worries. I'm sure you'll be fine.

                following life of MUHAMMED(s) makes easy atleast for me to perform ISLAMIC DUTIES, example namaaz,haj,roza...or it would be too tuff for me to literally understand concept of this things from QURAAN ALONE.

                I totally understand where you're coming from. Trust me, I do. I want to ask you a few questions.

                1. Have you ever found all the steps in detail about how to pray in the Hadith?
                2. Did you ever think that humans may be focusing on details that God doesn't bother to focus on?
                3. If God gave us the Quran as a guide to salvation and jannah, why on earth would he fail to give us the full instructions Himself? If the completion of His instructions lies in Muhammad's hadith, how on earth did Abraham, Joseph, Jesus, David, etc end up in Heaven???

                Peace. peace

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                  AliHuzaifa
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                  no I wont reply any thing, ignore

                  now u need to tell me how do u interpret QURAAN and perform these duties? hmm

                  NAMAZ
                  ZAKAAT
                  HAJ

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                    inquisitivetrini
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                    no I wont reply any thing, ignore

                    now u need to tell me how do u interpret QURAAN and perform these duties? hmm

                    NAMAZ
                    ZAKAAT
                    HAJ

                    No need to reply anything. I want you to find the answers yourself. You can look up certain terms in sunnah.com. That's a website where you can easily find all the hadiths talking about how to pray.

                    Namaz is a persian word and not in the Quran. If you're talking about "Salat" then that is different.

                    As for the other two, I do my best to cross reference with how they're used in different verses of the Quran. Read the Quran! It's not as complicated as one might think.

                    Peace. peace

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                      guys can u please stop posting salaam on every post?

                      am I suppose to reply ur salaam in every post? &

                      bravo

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                        Absolutely not. By doing so, we are going against God's Word when He has ordained Islam as our religion, when He ordained us to be Muslims. It's not wise to add a label in addition to that.

                        I know people probably already know these verses, but it's they make blatantly obvious what we should do

                        ?As for those who divide their religion and break up into shias (sects), you have no part in them in the least their affair is with Allah He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.? 6159

                        "Turn ye back in repentance to Him, and fear Him establish regular prayers, and be not ye among those who join gods with Allah,-Those who split up their Religion, and become (mere) Sects,- each party rejoicing in that which is with itself!" 3031-32

                        ? they broke up into sects only after the knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and resentment among themselves.? Quran, 4214

                        Yes, many people may have a false idea of some of our beliefs when they hear the word "Muslim" (ie. anything that came out of conjecture/hadiths) but that doesn't make Islam and being Muslims any less true. Abhorring conjecture is what Muslims are supposed to do, that is what Islam teaches. Therefore, we must set examples of what Muslims are and believe by not adhering to sects and by embracing what God has given us in terms of religious identity and that is being Muslims - only Muslims.

                        The Muslim ummah is the only group which we should feel we belong to, not to a sect. If there are Muslims who do not identify with us because they cling to conjecture/hadiths, that is for them to take up with God. Let it be and don't let it deter us from trying to be on and stay on the Straight Path, if God wills.

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                          Absolutely not. By doing so, we are going against God's Word when He has ordained Islam as our religion, when He ordained us to be Muslims. It's not wise to add a label in addition to that.

                          I know people probably already know these verses, but it's they make blatantly obvious what we should do

                          As for those who divide their religion and break up into shias (sects), you have no part in them in the least their affair is with Allah He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did. 6159

                          "Turn ye back in repentance to Him, and fear Him establish regular prayers, and be not ye among those who join gods with Allah,-Those who split up their Religion, and become (mere) Sects,- each party rejoicing in that which is with itself!" 3031-32

                          they broke up into sects only after the knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and resentment among themselves. Quran, 4214

                          Yes, many people may have a false idea of some of our beliefs when they hear the word "Muslim" (ie. anything that came out of conjecture/hadiths) but that doesn't make Islam and being Muslims any less true. Abhorring conjecture is what Muslims are supposed to do, that is what Islam teaches. Therefore, we must set examples of what Muslims are and believe by not adhering to sects and by embracing what God has given us in terms of religious identity and that is being Muslims - only Muslims.

                          The Muslim ummah is the only group which we should feel we belong to, not to a sect. If there are Muslims who do not identify with us because they cling to conjecture/hadiths, that is for them to take up with God. Let it be and don't let it deter us from trying to be on and stay on the Straight Path, if God wills.

                          I Agree

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