New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
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So what shall it be? A proper noun or a common noun meaning "submission"?
Salaam
This because of Arabization.Arabization occur when Islam disseminated to some region.
The word Islam can be transalted into another language as well as the word "Allah".
Some sects believe if this word forbids to be translated, just like tetragramaton, but actually this just ulama's policy.To unite muslims?? Ney.Arabic is just language of Quranic Mushaf, our international one is english, hence why we're not use "Submitter" instead "Muslim".
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Salaam,
Not sure to who you are talking here.
If you want to say something to me just say it straight, in this way it looks like you have a multiple personality disorder.
And fyi I'm NOT "Quran Only".Here is your chance to correct yourself
Quran 258
"And when We said, "Enter this city and eat from it wherever you will in abundance, and enter the gate bowing humbly and say, 'Relieve us of our burdens.' We will forgive your sins for you, and We will increase the doers of good .""
And We raised over them the mount for their covenant; and We said to them, "Enter the gate bowing humbly", and We said to them, "Do not transgress on the sabbath", and We took from them a solemn covenant.
And , when it was said to them, "Dwell in this city and eat from it wherever you will and say, 'Relieve us of our burdens,' and enter the gate bowing humbly; We will forgive you your sins. We will increase the doers of good ."
You who posses the Arabic language to master degree and is eager to point out others inventions in the ayaats of The Quran, for sure have noticed the 100% wrong inventions in the translations above.
So please remove all the inventions in these translations you copy-pasted.salaam,
Benderps You can not edit your post now but if you ask a moderator kindly, I am sure they will help you further.
Bender - so far all you have been is pretty nasty and self-piously sanctimonious . . . thankfully - you are NOT talking to me anymore.
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Salaam
This because of Arabization.Arabization occur when Islam disseminated to some region.
The word Islam can be transalted into another language as well as the word "Allah".
Some sects believe if this word forbids to be translated, just like tetragramaton, but actually this just ulama's policy.To unite muslims?? Ney.Arabic is just language of Quranic Mushaf, our international one is english, hence why we're not use "Submitter" instead "Muslim".
The fact that Quran is in Arabic is far better reason to keep with Arabic. And what is wrong with Arabic? After all God chose to send his message in Arabic.
Arabic is Muslim language and has been. As I have already said . . . all understand if you say "Salah" - Allah and etc.
This because of Arabization.Arabization occur when Islam disseminated to some region.
No it does not. Arabic never even replaced Persian - and they did a LOT for Arabic. Arabic ONLY spread to Arabic/Semitic regions . . else it is the language of Islam.
It is million times better to choose it over English.
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If one thinks that "sujud" means someone wiping his forehead on the floor and not "obeying the god" then they have bigger problems than coming here and discussing religion on this forum. Surely, claiming that "sujud" is some superficial mechanical movements instead of "obeying the god" is the attitude of hypocrites and those who mindlessly immitate like monkeys.
Incorrect - you simply cannot "invent" your own personal meanings. That is just completely nonsense. . .
f one thinks that "sujud" means someone wiping his forehead
It is bowing down - and that is what the word means. Do you have evidence that this word does not mean to bow down? I don't mean your pet theories - hard evidence.
Surely, claiming that "sujud" is some superficial mechanical movements instead of "obeying the god" is the attitude of hypocrites and those who mindlessly immitate like monkeys.
Try not to miss the point . . . The word Sajadah means to "bow down".
The rest of the arguments are just as mindless, such as inability to grasp elementary school level concepts like the difference between proper names and common nouns, confusing nouns (islam) and verbs (to submit), and ignorance that "taslim" is a different Arabic Masdar than "salam", etc.
Sorry - but you are being completely dishonest and frankly plain insulting and rude. That is the sign that argument has run out of you - and you have resorted to abuse.
I think it is you who does not understand the difference between Proper and Common noun - this is why rather than explaining any mistakes you have resorted to petty verbal abuse.
Islam means "to submit" - that is its linguistic meaning. FACT! Countless Arabic sources . . will say it and countless Arabic experts.
Islam as nomenclature refers to the Muslim faith.
Try to say off abuse - pretend that I have made mistake without having the ability to explain it . . . then do not resort to the above.
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I just continued on the list.
You know Shaytaan said "I am better than he"
You indirectly also say "I am better than you"Thus Shaytaan was very arrogant and I unfortunately see those traits in you too without intending to be dogmatic. You know full well I am relatively intelligent but you must shine with your projected intelligence.
Anyway, I have no interest of discussing with arrogant fools when other people are more worthy of my attention. Please continue to study the meaning of the Message instead of getting stuck on words.
Peace
When argument runs out . . .then you get all huffy and start throwing accusations . . .
I have prove I am far better educated and far more intelligent.
Look at your rhetoric. Now THAT is arrogance
I have no interest of discussing with arrogant fools when other people are more worthy of my attention.
You have NOTHING to say to me . . .other than to be rude!
So far . . . whenever you people are beaten . . . and your mistakes are highlighted . . . you get like this.
Abusive.
I have reported you. And will do so again . . . and to see how just this board is.
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Islam as nomenclature refers to the Muslim faith.
Peace the chimp,
I don't feel people are intentionally being rude or arrogant although at times these differences can be heated and you seem to write/reply on too many topics quickly; perhaps a point/topic at a time and write concisely why you disagree ? instead of it's always been this opinion simply elaborate in detail then perhaps brother Ayman and others can reply to that particular point, otherwise we're all over the place looks like spam/noise.
E.g. please explain what word in English best describes/translates as Muslim or what does it mean in Arabic?
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The fact that Quran is in Arabic is far better reason to keep with Arabic. And what is wrong with Arabic? After all God chose to send his message in Arabic.
Arabic is Muslim language and has been. As I have already said . . . all understand if you say "Salah" - Allah and etc.
RED There is nothing wrong with Arabic.
BLUE This because of doctrination by long time periods.Btw do you understand what I mean "Arabization"?
Arabazation is not limited within languages but also for cultures.This phenomenon occur together with spread of Islam.I give you example
- In my region "Nusantara", the Arabic language influeced our languages.Main language spoken in Nusantara is Malay.
Indonesian language = Malay + Java + Arabic + English + Sanskrit + Portugese
Malaysian language = Malay + English + Jawi + Arabic + Sanskrit + Portugese
Bruneian language = Malay + English + Jawi + Arabic + Sanskrit + PortugeseThe Jawi Script using Arabic.
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Some of Muslim even they're not Arab adobted Arabic for their name.
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Music like nasheed is popular among muslim communities especially for concervatives
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etc
Peace
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Peace,
Huh? You said something which was arrogant and I just continued on the list. And Shaytaan said like you think. There has been little offense in my posts. At best you were offensive and I returned the offense by adding a line to your
- More knowledgeable
- Way smarter
And I added
- And more arrogant
You you deny the reply was untrue based on the first post?
I know it was a bit sarcastic but could not help it on such a lame post. So retarded. But go to you creed and I will have mine.
Peace
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Peace,
Huh? You said something which was arrogant and I just continued on the list. And Shaytaan said like you think. There has been little offense in my posts. At best you were offensive and I returned the offense by adding a line to your
- More knowledgeable
- Way smarter
And I added
- And more arrogant
You you deny the reply was untrue based on the first post?
I know it was a bit sarcastic but could not help it on such a lame post. So retarded. But go to you creed and I will have mine.
Peace
There has been little offense in my posts. At best you were offensive and I returned the offense by adding a line to your
You can hardly be the best judge of that? As you are accused of being guilty . . . and it is NOT you being offended. So offending others and then saying you are not offensive . . . but calling others "arrogant" . . .
Hmmm . . . that is ARROGANCE!
I know it was a bit sarcastic but could not help it on such a lame post. So retarded. But go to you creed and I will have mine.
So you quite enjoy calling others "retarded" yet . . . do not see this as offensive!
It is a FACT that . . . I am better educated and smarter than you. It has easily been proven.
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It is a FACT that . . . I am better educated and smarter than you. It has easily been proven.
I thought I was going to find a relevant and interesting nugget of information. Yet, having only read the last post, I feel as though I have stepped into a primary school playground.
Salaam.
Sajda.
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I thought I was going to find a relevant and interesting nugget of information. Yet, having only read the last post, I feel as though I have stepped into a primary school playground.
Salaam.
Sajda.
Why? Do you object to primary school playgrounds . . . I have always enjoyed a good scrap! Even aged 32. brickwall
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Why? Do you object to primary school playgrounds . . . I have always enjoyed a good scrap! Even aged 32. brickwall
Come on, brother, there's no need for such comments.
We should not lose sight.
We should not fight.
We should hold on to the rope nice and tight.
We should unite. -
Come on, brother, there's no need for such comments.
We should not lose sight.
We should not fight.
We should hold on to the rope nice and tight.
We should unite.Like
Why not? It was a light-hearted comment . . . jeez!
Jeez = Jesus = call on Jesus for assistance
ya Allah = call on Allah for assistance, is the best expression of exasperation, but you already know that!
God bless
peace
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Jeez = Jesus = call on Jesus for assistance
ya Allah = call on Allah for assistance, is the best expression of exasperation, but you already know that!
God bless
peace
I also know that Jeez - is mild expression of surprise. . . .and NOT calling Jesus Christ for help.
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I also know that Jeez - is mild expression of surprise. . . .and NOT calling Jesus Christ for help.
hmmm, ok,
On the one hand you are correct
Definition of JEEZ
?used as a mild oath or introductory expletive (as to express surprise)On the other hand......
Origin of JEEZ
euphemism for Jesus
First Known Use 1923God bless
peace
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Peace,
That is true. Saying jeez is using Jesus' name, even if by slang.
I usually say "oh Lord God". It may be more righteous.
God bless you
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What is important is what we mean when we utter what we utter. The intention is the important thing.... not the etymology of the uttered word/expression. Then of course, there are expression, although innocently uttered, that we perhaps better refrain from using... like "bloody hell"... or worse...
Uttering 'jeez' doesn't mean we call on Jesus... and just because we celebrate Christmas it doesn't mean we believe Jesus was more than a human man, and it doesn't even mean we commemorate Jesus birth at all, whether as God incarnate or as just a human messenger.
Peace
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Peace,
That is true. Saying jeez is using Jesus' name, even if by slang.
I usually say "oh Lord God". It may be more righteous.
God bless you
You are getting extremely petty . . . following me around and leaving nasty comments just for the sake of it. You do not know much or have answer . . . like all your brethren resort to making up nonsense.
Rather than highlighting your inadequacies - try staying quiet.
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hmmm, ok,
On the one hand you are correct
Definition of JEEZ
?used as a mild oath or introductory expletive (as to express surprise)On the other hand......
Origin of JEEZ
euphemism for Jesus
First Known Use 1923God bless
peace
It did start off as an abbreviation of saying Jesus - but not saying "Oh Jesus" . . . and it is better than you sing "Jesus Christ" as a an expression to express surprise or annoyance.
I don't particularly have any problems saying Jesus Christ! other than to showing disrespect or taking his name in vain.