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If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword

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    FreedomStands
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    The Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.
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    But whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people, then let us be earnest in prayer, and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars.
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    Lo! This verily is the true narrative. There is no Allah save Allah, and lo! Allah, He verily is, is the Mighty, the Wise.
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    And if they turn away - behold, God has full knowledge of the spreaders of corruption.
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    Say O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us and you that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside Allah. And if they turn away, then say Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered

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    Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all;
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    In this state shall they abide; neither will their suffering, be lightened, nor will they be granted respite.
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    AND YOUR GOD is the One God there is no deity save Him, the Most Gracious, the Dispenser of Grace.
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    Verily, in the creation of the heavens and of the earth, and the succession of night and day and in the ships that speed through the sea with what is useful to man and in the waters which God sends down from the sky, giving life thereby to the earth after it had, been lifeless, and causing all manner of living creatures to multiply thereon and in the change of the winds, and the clouds that run their appointed courses between sky and earth there are messages indeed for people who use their reason.
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    Yet of mankind are some who take unto themselves (objects of worship which they set as) rivals to Allah, loving them with a love like (that which is the due) of Allah (only) - those who believe are stauncher in their love for Allah - Oh, that those who do evil had but known, (on the day) when they behold the doom, that power belongeth wholly to Allah, and that Allah is severe in punishment!
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    it will come to pass that those who had been adored shall disown their followers, and the latter shall see the suffering , with all their hopes cut to pieces!

    Oh Lord, you know how to talk!

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    and the fifth time, that God?s curse be upon him if he is telling a lie.

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    They have earned the curse of Allah and of the angels and of the pious whose curse damages the accused; their own homes shall be cursed.

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    1985), If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever) And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him (Remember that drfazl urges people to harm and kill themselves too by telling them not to fight disease)

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    O you who (have) been given the Book, believe in what We (have) revealed confirming what is with you, before We efface faces and turn them on their backs or We curse them as We cursed companions (of) the Sabbath. And is (the) command of Allah (always) executed.

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    Cursed wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered, a (horrible) murdering.

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    When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!

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    And the word was spoken "O earth, swallow up thy waters! And, O sky, cease !" And the waters sank into the earth, and the will was done, and the ark came to rest on Mount Judl And the word was spoken "Away with these evildoing folk!"

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    He said My Lord! Lo! I have called unto my people night and day
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    But all my calling doth but add to their repugnance;
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    "And every time I have called to them, that Thou mightest forgive them, they have (only) thrust their fingers into their ears, covered themselves up with their garments, grown obstinate, and given themselves up to arrogance.

    "No, I will never surrender to you nor your fray"
    "self-centered, often contradictory posts. I never asked any specific questions to you because I am not seeking any answers from you."
    "Learn some manners and study the Quran before you start preaching or teaching. Actually no, go join your barbaric ISIS pals who have a similar way. Don't bother addressing me any further."

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    Again, truly, I called to them with openness.
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    and, behold I preached to them in public; and I spoke to them secretly, in private;
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    and said ?Seek forgiveness from your Lord; He has been so Forgiving.
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    He will send down upon you the cloud, pouring down abundance of rain (lol irony)
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    And will help you with wealth and sons, and will assign unto you Gardens and will assign unto you rivers.
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    What is the matter with you that you fear not the greatness of Allah?
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    "'Seeing that it is He that has created you in diverse stages?
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    Do you not see how Allah has created the seven heavens, one above another,
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    And made the moon therein a light, and made the sun a lamp?
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    "'And God has caused you to grow out of the earth in growth; and thereafter He will return you to it
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    and He will bring you forth in resurrection.

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    Noah continued "O my Sustainer! Behold, they have opposed me , for they follow people whose wealth and children lead them increasingly into ruin,
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    and who have devised a most awesome blasphemy
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    And they have said Forsake not your gods. Forsake not Wadd (meaning "Love&quot, nor Suwa', nor Yaghuth (meaning "He Helps&quot and Ya'uq ("He Protects&quot and Nasr (meaning "Vulture" but possibly also something like "Victory" "Assistance&quot.
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    "They have already misled many; and grant Thou no increase to the wrong-doers but in straying

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    And Noah prayed "O my Sustainer! Leave not on earth any of those who deny the truth
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    "For, if Thou dost leave (any of) them, they will but mislead Thy devotees, and they will breed none but wicked ungrateful ones.
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    My Lord! Forgive me and my parents and him who entereth my house believing, and believing men and believing women, and increase not the wrong-doers in aught save ruin.

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    Those are those whom God cursed, so He made them unwilling to hear and their sight, unwilling to see.

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    And the Jews say The hand of Allah is bound up! Their hands shall be shackled and they shall be cursed for what they say. Nay, both His hands are spread out, He expends as He pleases; and what has been revealed to you from your Lord will certainly make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; and We have put enmity and hatred among them till the day of resurrection; whenever they kindle a fire for war Allah puts it out, and they strive to make mischief in the land; and Allah does not love the mischief-makers.

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      But you are the one who added implications falsely, I said something specific, I didn't state the opposite of what I said, drsnake. So you're, as usual, trying to falsely accuse. This is a bad habit of yours, but it is what Shaitans tend to do, and I know it might be hard for you to come to terms with being a devil, but the decision was never yours.

      A Shaitan is one, like yourself, who goes around telling people that "All is not from God" (your first post in this thread starts off with your blasphemy) then continues to tell people not to take medicine and harm their bodies and spread disease, all the while having your shirki ideas behind it. You can't accuse me of shirk at all, I am the one who says Allah alone is the sole power controlling all matters entirely. Down to the little twinge in your nose hairs.

      Then the Shaitani type of person comes and accuses and maligns and attacks someone who is saying that Allah alone is the only power. Are you starting to realize how you're a big devil? When I was sending messages to strengthen someone, you said the opposite, and then you made bold claims also that someone is "blessed" without any knowledge whatsoever. I've caught you by your snake tail every time, will you ever turn into a proper human being?

      For as long as you continue to do evil, Allah might send against you people who remind you of your crimes, so cease your criminality. Your coming around like a snake and twisting things and attacking. People think I do that, but I don't really, and if I do it has a good cause, but what is your cause in defying me and attacking me? Your cause is to say the opposite of what I am saying.

      What is it that I am saying? I am saying Allah is the sole power. You are attacking that and saying the opposite. You're a shirk riddled serpent who needs to be grabbed by the tail and smashed against every wall until you get it through your snake head that Allah is the power, not "drfazl" and not anyone else, and not the "jinn", Allah created everything.

      So you can say Allah created medicine and medicine is bad, that is better than saying "Allah didn't do it, Allah does some things but not all things, Chance determines some things, Allah determines other things".

      Now if you say that medicine is bad is another issue, and it is criminal of you to try to harm people and it is also generally stupid, your whole idea is stupid, maybe some part of you knows that.

      Yet none of your crimes is bigger than your reasoning. You could say look how harmful medicine is, blah blah, that is not the problem here, it is you saying "Allah didn't do it, the jinn made it, Allah had no share in their creative power" that makes you a huge shirki blasphemer.

      Your medicine stupidity is literally criminal, you are telling people to damage their bodies, to die, to refuse the gifts of Allah and the technologies of Allah, and also propagating the spread of disease. This makes you a genocidal maniac who needs to be opposed.

      Me? I'm simply saying Allah is the sole power. I'm not saying any of the crap you are saying, which is extraneous garbage. Everything I am saying is good and precise and has a strong basis.

      Let me talk to the supposed doctor who went to medical school, not the disease spreading killer, but someone with sense. Is it all gone now? Knock knock, who is there? Hisss, its drsnake.

      But, as usual I am finding garbage in the retort without substance anywhere; have you answered my query to you? I want you to pick up from the junkyard and paste that part of the answer pertaining to my seeking of you.

      Quote from FreedomStands on Today at 012031 AM

      Hi.

      Let me answer you line by line. First of all, you don't seem to have an incredibly strong knowledge of what the Qur'an actually says.

      Can you explain the bold part alone as to what you think of others and what you demand of others to think of you, directly or indirectly? "Incredibly strong in Quran" is sure rambling and against 3/7, 20/114 and 17/85.

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        We will not intend to destroy. God provides also for those in the darkness, and so we also do.

        But emotional outbursts do not help in any way.

        Drfazl suggests a lifestyle concept, not a must.

        Be well

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          drfazl
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          360
          The Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.

          6.17 And if Allah visits thee with affliction none can remove it but He; and if He visits thee with good, He is powerful over everything. 360 This Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.

          Interpretation

          If Allah afflicts you with a disease no doctor but He can avert it. If Allah cures you, He has power over ill hospitals, ill 'specialists' and their medicines.

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            drfazl
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            But emotional outbursts do not help in any way.

            Drfazl suggests a lifestyle concept, not a must.

            Be well

            Absolutely Man of Faith. I do not think it is 'emotional outbursts' but it is "vomiting sickness" due to the products of conception in the breast of wrongful ideas.

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              6.17 And if Allah visits thee with affliction none can remove it but He; and if He visits thee with good, He is powerful over everything. 360 This Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.

              Interpretation

              If Allah afflicts you with a disease no doctor but He can avert it. If Allah cures you, He has power over ill hospitals, ill 'specialists' and their medicines.

              If you are hungry, no food can cure your hunger. If you are thirsty, no water can slake your thirst, yet as Allah wills and makes it so, and so you eat and drink, and similarly, some people take antibiotics that attack infections. Allah can do it other ways too, but can also do it that way, just like you eat when you are hungry, and drink water when you are thirsty.

              In your case though, I highly recommend you stop food and drink altogether, and rely on "Allah alone" and reject the gifts of Allah, and surely you will survive in this manner for a long time, until Allah determines your death.

              Also in answer to your other annoying stuff, I already answered, I never said what you claimed, I simply said they do not appear to have an incredibly strong knowledge of the Qur'an (because they say that Allah does not determine things, just like you also tend to say).

              Nor can a joke make you laugh or a tragedy make you cry, except as Allah wills, and All is from God, the causes and the effects and whatever Allah makes it appear as.

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                drfazl
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                We Are The Guardians For The Wisdom of Quran, The Zikr

                15.9 Surely We sent down the manifest wisdom and verily, We are@ its guardian.

                Note

                @ We are- Allah and those messengers who are endowed with the wisdom of Quran are sufficient proof that the Revealer is a Messenger 13/43 from Him who may be in any part of the world, at any point of time and their Wisdom on Quran, and the Revelation by them, of the Wisdom of Quran to the world, for all time to come. Thus the ?zikr? the wisdom of Quran, is well guarded as promised by Allah.

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                  Absolutely Man of Faith. I do not think it is 'emotional outbursts' but it is "vomiting sickness" due to the products of conception in the breast of wrongful ideas.

                  So these breasts that I was conceived in have written all inside of them "Allah alone is the Ultimate" and these are "wrongful ideas"? Drmushrik?

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                    If you are hungry, now food can cure your hunger. If you are thirst, no water can cure your thirst, yet as Allah wills and makes it so, and so you eat and drink, and similarly, some people take antibiotics that attack infections. Allah can do it other ways too, but can also do it that way, just like you eat when you are hungry, and drink water when you are thirsty.

                    In your case though, I highly recommend you stop food and drink altogether, and rely on "Allah alone" and reject the gifts of Allah, and surely you will survive in this manner for a long time, until Allah determines your death.

                    Also in answer to your other annoying stuff, I already answered, I never said what you claimed, I simply said they do not appear to have an incredibly strong knowledge of the Qur'an (because they say that Allah does not determine things, just like you also tend to say).

                    Will you give your sensible interpretation to 6/17 and then talk based on that instead of prattling? I have given my example as to how to interpret.

                    Regarding the second question the answer still remains to be answered. Did you simply said it and in this way They do not appear to have an incredibly strong knowledge of the Qur'an Where is the question of raising this comment at all if you are a surrenderer to the ayats 3/7, 20/114 and 17/85?

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      I hope drfazl can withstand derogatory titles.

                      Regarding food, with Faith much less is required. It's actually only an illusion you eat. If God willed and supported it, a human could go on without eating or drinking for a long time, because an affection on the atoms is all which is required.

                      And with faith, much less can do much more.

                      And with Faith you could turn water into wine.

                      Be well

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                        drfazl
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                        So these breasts that I was conceived in have written all inside of them "Allah alone is the Ultimate" and these are "wrongful ideas"? Drmushrik?

                        Please write short and brief or give a summary of what you want to convey. Allah alone is the Ultimate is a confusion and it is wrong conclusion to stop half-way.

                        Instead write this way Allah alone is the Ultimate in Forgiving, in being Merciful, as the Judge of all Justice, as the Knower, as the Remover of Evils you earn against the wish of Allah, as Bringer of Good despite your wrongs, the Relenting, as Redeemer, as Helper, as Protector and so on and so forth.

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                          FreedomStands
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                          I hope drfazl can withstand derogatory titles.

                          Regarding food, with Faith much less is required. It's actually only an illusion you eat. If God willed and supported it, a human could go on without eating or drinking for a long time, because an affection on the atoms is all which is required.

                          And with faith, much less can do much more.

                          And with Faith you could turn water into wine.

                          Be well

                          Seems you're lacking Faith.

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                            FreedomStands
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                            Please write short and brief or give a summary of what you want to convey. Allah alone is the Ultimate is a confusion and it is wrong conclusion to stop half-way.

                            Instead write this way Allah alone is the Ultimate in Forgiving, in being Merciful, as the Judge of all Justice, as the Knower, as the Remover of Evils you earn against the wish of Allah, as Bringer of Good despite your wrongs, the Relenting, as Redeemer, as Helper, as Protector and so on and so forth.

                            You managed to make me laugh! Haha. Very funny.

                            "Ultimate in Forgiving" not in every other regard? "Against the wish of Allah" Oh we can act against the wish of Allah? Certainly, mighty are we!

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                              Will you give your sensible interpretation to 6/17 and then talk based on that instead of prattling? I have given my example as to how to interpret.

                              Regarding the second question the answer still remains to be answered. Did you simply said it and in this way They do not appear to have an incredibly strong knowledge of the Qur'an Where is the question of raising this comment at all if you are a surrenderer to the ayats 3/7, 20/114 and 17/85?

                              You do this repeating garbage every time, it is very annoying when you keep asking over and over and I have already answered it now. You want some particular answer and my answer is not fitting what you want, so answer it yourself then, but I already answered you and told you I did not say what you are implying, I only said the individual did not appear to have a strong knowledge of the Qur'an (same with you), because you and him both say that Allah is not the determiner of everything absolutely, the Qadiruun, you are both therefor blasphemers and liars with a weak knowledge of what the Qur'an says and a weak knowledge in general of why whatever is Ultimate is the Absolute Determiner, and if you say Allah is not, then you are merely saying something else is Ultimate other than Allah, even inadvertently.

                              I've told you, stop repeating the same question over and over, you've done this in all our arguments in the past, it is extremely annoying.

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                                drfazl
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                                You managed to make me laugh! Haha. Very funny.

                                "Ultimate in Forgiving" not in every other regard? "Against the wish of Allah" Oh we can act against the wish of Allah? Certainly, mighty are we!

                                They can as Allah leaves them astray for their continued arrogance and aggression beyond the period of decree stated for them Here is the verse 4/50 Look how they invent about Allah untruth, and sufficient is that as a manifest sin.

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                                  Seems you're lacking Faith.

                                  And your proof is what?

                                  A man that says "Everything is possible nothing is impossible" and lives up to the motto can surely not be without Faith, can he? Do you know what the word means? Confidence, security and acknowledgement.

                                  It is like holding the hand over a pitcher of polluted water and saying "be you clean" and it comes pure. If it does, did that one lack Faith? No, I would not think so.

                                  Iman is security in yourself which is security in God. Confidence is everything, but also humbleness to avoid arrogance which comes with confidence without humbleness.

                                  But I have noticed you have derailed emotionally completely. This is detrimental for you, but hopefully you will eventually grow out of it. You still have time.

                                  Be well

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                                    I've told you, stop repeating the same question over and over, you've done this in all our arguments in the past, it is extremely annoying.

                                    Seek patience from Allah; Allah does not create haste for you but patience; do not get annoyed; Allah will change your mood to righteousness. Now answer to my query regarding 6/17 and to the next question from me to you based on 3/7, 17/85, 20/114. Write the ayats, and then your interpretation, and then your justification to your own statement.

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                                      But does this person (I refer to FreedomStands) worship the All Mighty/ The Ultimate as he claims?

                                      See
                                      1690 ?Indeed, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and forbids immorality and bad conduct and oppression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.?

                                      But does this person really honor this order and command? If you think he does, then look at all of his speech and intentions, you will find precious little signs of it.

                                      Iblees/Satan, devils and his following recognize the All Mighty as the One and Only Power too, but what does Iblees, the shayateen and his followers call to/ tempt/whisper/encourage/employ? The very opposite of what is in 1690.

                                      So your lord of darkness and evil, is a false idol that you worship with no power at all except to call to every injustice, to every perverted and disgusting speech and deeds, to oppression and bad conduct. To make the human believe that it can never choose between right or wrong, and whatever you do are not your deeds because God is responsible for your disobedience/obedience and so you in-fact, end up denying the judgement and trial and the All Mighty.

                                      6112 And as such, We have permitted the enemies of every prophet?devils of mankind and Jinn?to inspire each other with fancy words in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.

                                      6113 That is so the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter will listen to it, and they will accept it, and they will take of it what they will.

                                      6114 ?Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you the Book fully detailed?? Those to whom We have given the Book know it is sent down from your Lord with the truth; so do not be of those who have doubt.

                                      Then do you worship the Lord of the worlds as you claim?

                                      Refer to the Quran

                                      711 And We created you, then We shaped you, then We said to the angels ?Yield to Adam;? so they yielded except for Satan, he was not of those who yielded.

                                      712 He (God) said ?What has prevented you from yielding when I have ordered you?? He said ?I am far better than him, You created me from fire and created him from clay!?

                                      713 He (God) said ?Descend from it, for it is not for you to be arrogant here; depart, for you are disgraced.?

                                      714 He (Satan) said ?Grant me respite until the Day they are resurrected??

                                      715 He (God) said ?You are granted.?

                                      716 He (Satan) said ?For that which You have caused me to be misled, I will stalk for them on Your straight path.?

                                      717 ?Then I will come to them from between their hands, and from behind them, and from their right, and from their left; and You will find most of them unthankful.?

                                      718 He (God) said ?Get out from this, you are despised and banished. As for those of them who follow you, I will fill Hell with you all!?

                                      Satan/Iblees disobeyed, and blamed God for it. Disgraced is he who follows in these footsteps.
                                      Curse? You are already cursed, but you perceive not.

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                                        I am replying on the phone. You made claims about faith in the post I was replying to. Can you do those things? No? That is what I was commenting on. That you said one who has faith can do such and such so I said it looks like you are lacking in faith since you can't apparently do such and such. I haven't derailed emotionally. Don't worry. I am just seeing how people respond to what is being said and how it is being said.

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                                          FreedomStands
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                                          I am responding on my phone to you A.W.

                                          I am saying the Ultimate is all I call God. You are claiming God does not determine but things can go this way or that way and God doesn't know and chance determines the outcome. You are saying I am false and saying false things. You are saying it is false that Allah is determiner and you are saying you are the determiner and you can freely do this or that so chance determines the results which Allah also doesn't know. You are saying I am cursed for believing and stating Allah is the sole determiner. You are saying Shaitan could turn around and not be outcast regardless of Allah. You are implying I am like Shaitan and very likely Shaitan's follower ny saying Allah is the sole determiner while you say you determine and chance dwyer ines and Shaitan can determine too. You think I will be punished for saying Allah is the sole power and creator of everything and you will be spared for saying Allah is lacking in knowledge of what will happen and what will be done and relies instead on chance and follows after what people determine by chance. Do you really think you are right? Do you really think there is a source of anything at all in existence but Allah? I say that everything whatsoever in the Universe and on Earth is created by Allah entirely and Allah alone determines and creates what Allah wills and you are claiming no and that I am Satanic for saying Allah created everything whatsoever and that includes good and evil and not everything is necessarily good for people. That whatever is experienced is determined and created by Allah and decreed by Allah before it is brought into existence by Allah be it in the Earth or in yourself. You are saying no. You are saying I am wrong and Satanic and cursed for saying these things and that instead of God alone being determiner, you deterkine your fate by the actions you determine for yourself left up to chance since you can do this or that and God does not create absolutely everything and does not decree or determine or even know what will happen but is left in suspense waiting to see what chance determines and does not create all experiences bit people choose and determine. Perhaps you can go back and read the quotes I provided too.

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