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    unknownuser
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    You are reminding me of the user named Last Day 3...premonitions, warnings, promises, hidden meanings... giveup

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      al-amiyr
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      Salaam al-amiyr
      Thank you for replying to my post. I did not expect to know your family history, but I read through it, so are you saying that you are the hidden Imam about which Ayatollah Khomeini talked?
      Secondly, as you are teaching arabic, maybe it will help me if you could explain to me the meaning of the word "Mullaa"?
      Salaam

      +salaam sister farida

      I mentioned you the history of my forefathers because they are tied up with the Book (al-kitaab). I hope that you will be patient with me as I am not a man in good health and probably have not long to live. My eyes are fading and most of the joints of my bones disintegrating. I type only with two fingers. What most would type in five minutes I would do in 30. Yet everyday I type about one hundred pages of notes to people all over the world in order to teach and answer with no reward or even thanks expected.

      I will always do if I promise within my capacity. Sometimes questions are asked which I have already answered so I give preference to new ones.

      After I have presented the Book (al-kitaab) which I am preparing to do in a special thread you will understand what you have asked about inshaa allaah.

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        Salaam al-amiyr,

        I did not read everything you wrote but I have a question if you don't mind.

        How do explain the red with the blue?

        1)- you do not have to be a Muslim to go into the Book (al-kitaab). In fact you can be the hardest anti-theist.
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        And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan (qur'aan kariym)
        in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
        None touches it except the Purified Ones;a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.

        I also don't understand why you used other sources besides The Quran.

        Salaam,
        bender

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          al-amiyr
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          Salaam al-amiyr,

          I did not read everything you wrote but I have a question if you don't mind.

          How do explain the red with the blue?

          1)- you do not have to be a Muslim to go into the Book (al-kitaab). In fact you can be the hardest anti-theist.
          .

          056077 - 080.
          And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan (qur'aan kariym)
          in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
          None touches it except the Purified Ones;a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.

          I also don't understand why you used other sources besides The Quran.

          Salaam,
          bender

          +salaam bender

          Thanks for asking clarity on this.

          What is meant is that any person who opens up their mind to learn the Book (al-kitaab) can learn it. Then the Truth will then dawn upon them and they will become believers with no doubt. I hope that clarifies what I meant. I hope that you read the other posts. Also I hope that you can respond to my request above inshaa allaah.

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            al-amiyr
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            You are reminding me of the user named Last Day 3...premonitions, warnings, promises, hidden meanings... giveup

            And you remind me of the wise lady who never read the good news.

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              And you remind me of the wise lady who never read the good news.

              Salaam,

              I agree only on the red part yes

              Salaam,
              Bender

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                al-amiyr
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                Peace al-amiyr.

                Thank you for the reminder of which could apply to any of us.

                May I also remind you of the following verses , as you should be aware of course

                873 ? Unless you keep the commandments of GOD, ( and follow only the word of GOD!) there will be Chaos on earth and terrible corruption.?

                978 Do they not realise ( all humans!) that GOD knows their secrets and their conspiracies and that GOD is the knower of all secrets??

                1060 Does it ever occur to those who fabricate lies ( invent false religions, write their own rules/books?) about GOD that they will have to face HIM on the day of judgement??

                Peace.

                +salaam good logic

                That was very logical what you had said. So therefore we had better check and see who it applies to.

                May ALLAAH guide us all to the right path inshaa allaah.

                +salaam^

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                  al-amiyr
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                  Salaam,

                  I agree only on the red part yes

                  Salaam,
                  Bender

                  +salaam

                  Is she the lady in red?

                  +salaam

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                    with respect, I've continued to read the 4 pages of this thread, parts I feel I can hear a trumpet fanfare declaring something wonderful is coming.........and coming.......and coming..........and yet 4 pages of this thread and I'm still waiting. The vast majority of what you have posted can also be found word for word on many other forums........I still found no more explanation of that which is coming.......

                    peace

                    salaam sister Ayisha

                    The something wonderful is on its way and you can jump aboard and join the journey through the eternity. No tickets required.

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                      And you remind me of the wise lady who never read the good news.

                      If you have not figured out, the people here like 2 things

                      1. Get to the point

                      2. Proof of what you claim

                      I am a complete failure at #2, but I digress.

                      Wise.... rotfl not this woman.

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                        The Most Illustrious Family Of Islaam Or That Of The Ages According to those who know.

                        There is a Family that has now produced 43 generations of learned men, one son after the other, and all of them great scholars of Islaam. They are linked ( by blood or as advisers ) in one way or another to all the Khulafaa' (Khaliyfs) in the history of the whole of Islaam since the death of the messenger of ALLAAH (A*)(S+).

                        Peace al-amiyr,

                        This reminds me of Ibrahim's father and Nooh's son hmm

                        I am really really not interested in your family tree, you are surely playing a suspense movie bro

                        May Allah bless you,
                        mmKhan

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                          al-amiyr
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                          Peace al-amiyr,

                          This reminds me of Ibrahim's father and Nooh's son hmm

                          I am really really not interested in your family tree, you are surely playing a suspense movie bro

                          May Allah bless you,
                          mmKhan

                          +salaam mmkhan

                          How can you brother compare men who have served and taken the Qur'aan to the world and then compare them to people whom ALLAAH said rejected him. Do you think that that in all honesty is a fair estimation.
                          Did I not set out my program here what I am going to do. Be honest about it brother. Have you read the posts or must I show you what I have written. I am in full line with what I have stated how I shall set this out. Let me quote from the first post.

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                          as-salaamu "alaykum

                          I would like to discuss with the brothers and sisters of this forum - Free-Minds.Org - this subject The Qur'aan and The Hidden Book called The book. Please read carefully!

                          There are three aspects to this discussion-
                          1)- About The Hidden Book.
                          2)- Evidence for The Hidden Book.
                          3)- Entering The Hidden book.

                          In this thread I shall present and hope to discuss with you the first two aspects which is
                          1)- About The Hidden Book.
                          2)- Evidence for The Hidden Book.

                          For the last aspect I would like to create a new thread and take you on the journey into The Hidden Book inshaa allaah. Remember! Nothing that you have been told or imagined before would have prepared you for what you are going to see. Everything is from the Qur,aan Alone, but because I am discussing with all people around the world I have also backed up the evidence from their own sources where and when necessary.

                          Did I not set out my program. Why accuse me of something I am not guilty of? You are supposed to be of the wiser ones brother.

                          +salaam

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                            salaam sister Ayisha

                            The something wonderful is on its way and you can jump aboard and join the journey through the eternity. No tickets required.

                            with respect, I don't want to spend eternity waiting and if the world is going to end next week I'd like as much of the info as possible before then.

                            We are not on page 6 and no closer. peace

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                              with respect, I don't want to spend eternity waiting and if the world is going to end next week I'd like as much of the info as possible before then.

                              We are not on page 6 and no closer. peace

                              Salaam,

                              Red rotfl

                              Blue o you must be trying to say "now"

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                                +salaam mmkhan

                                How can you brother compare men who have served and taken the Qur'aan to the world and then compare them to people whom ALLAAH said rejected him. Do you think that that in all honesty is a fair estimation.
                                Did I not set out my program here what I am going to do. Be honest about it brother. Have you read the posts or must I show you what I have written. I am in full line with what I have stated how I shall set this out. Let me quote from the first post.

                                Salaam al-amiyr,

                                That family tree reminded me of that father or son who not necessarily follow the same path of Allah. The maximum family tree I know from alQuraan is of three. It is not possible to all family tree members to be on same path unless they are the priests of Dargah.

                                Please brother... giveup

                                May Allah bless you,
                                mmKhan

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                                  +salaam sister farida
                                  ....
                                  I will always do if I promise within my capacity. Sometimes questions are asked which I have already answered so I give preference to new ones.
                                  After I have presented the Book (al-kitaab) which I am preparing to do in a special thread you will understand what you have asked about inshaa allaah.

                                  Salaam al-amiyr
                                  I have not seen an answer to my questions; otherwise I wouldn't have bothered you.
                                  As I said I only become a pupil after my tutor has answered my questions to my required criteria. However I will be reading your posts, and will not disturb you further as so many are anxious to know what you have to say so please have ypur say.
                                  All the best

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                                    Salaam al-amiyr,

                                    That family tree reminded me of that father or son who not necessarily follow the same path of Allah. The maximum family tree I know from alQuraan is of three. It is not possible to all family tree members to be on same path unless they are the priests of Dargah.

                                    Please brother... giveup

                                    May Allah bless you,
                                    mmKhan

                                    +salaam brother mmkhan

                                    Can you explain your statement that I emphasized above. Is it your opinion or a fact.
                                    My family have been the subject of many scholarly studies during the past 100 years. These scholars are from many and varied backgrounds. The last book printed about my family history was published in Turkey a few years ago and it numbered about 900 pages. Here in Cape Town is one Historian Halim Gencoglu who came to South Africa two years ago and is working on a few books on the history of our family through the ages and their activities for Islaam.
                                    Did you know that it is through this family line ALLAAH chose to teach the world his religion. Almost every prophet in the Qur'aan is linked to this family line. But we also have a great amount of enemies who work to turn the world against us and therefore we keep a low profile and try to attract no attention. So many of us have been killed, beheaded and crucified naked with our skeleton remaining there for years. These are all historically recorded and can be verified.
                                    But the day has come that the world should again know the Book (al-kitaab) of ALLAAH which is lodged in our brains from father to son through the ages right from the messenger of ALLAAH (S+) himself. I did not need to tell you this but you made statements you cannot justify. You did it now about four times.

                                    May ALLAAH guide all of us inshaa allaah.

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                                      Salaam,

                                      Red rotfl

                                      Blue o you must be trying to say "now"

                                      yes thank you, keyboard is dyslexic tonight ;D

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                                        one-9-one
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                                        My Request
                                        First Reply
                                        salaam+ one-9-one

                                        You can most surely take up the 'challenge'. In fact, there is no challenge at all. You just follow and read what is being said and when you have understood what was said you will post a reply and say, "confirmed and continue' or whatever you wish to say. If what was said was not clear to you then state that. In this way other readers can have a better understanding and I will know that we are on track. Keep the following in mind

                                        1)- you do not have to be a Muslim to go into the Book (al-kitaab). In fact you can be the hardest anti-theist.
                                        2)- you do not have to have any prior knowledge to enter the the Book (al-kitaab) to fully understand - in fact you could be completely illiterate. You just need a brain that can think.
                                        3)- in fact, no scriptures are even required to enter the Book (al-kitaab). The Book (al-kitaab) is like a computer program (code like e.g. HTML) and your head and your mind can be compared to the hardware. The scriptures (like the Qur'aan, the Torah, the Injiyl, etc in the original language) are the software that executes the program.
                                        4)- The Book (al-kitaab) is the Writing (from Arabic kataba = he wrote (a writing) and the Qur'aan is the Reading/Recitation thereof ( from qara'a = he read/ he recited). The two go together.

                                        Read the following verse in the Qur'aan

                                        056077 - 080.
                                        And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan (qur'aan kariym)
                                        in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
                                        None touches it except the Purified Ones;
                                        a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.

                                        Let us see what the meaning of the qur'aanic statement is
                                        a Noble Qur?aan (qur'aan kariym) in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).

                                        maknuwn
                                        1)- hidden, concealed
                                        2)- well-kept
                                        3)- hidden content

                                        kitaab
                                        1)- a piece of writing, record
                                        2)- letter, note, message
                                        3)- book

                                        So the qur'aan says;

                                        056077 - 080.
                                        And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan
                                        in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
                                        None touches it except the Purified Ones;
                                        a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.

                                        a Noble Qur?aan( Reading / Recitation from qara'a = he read/ he recited). in
                                        1)- hidden/ concealed piece of writing/ record
                                        2)- well-kept piece of writing/ record
                                        3)- hidden (content) piece of writing/ record

                                        4)- hidden/ concealed letter, note, message
                                        5)- well-kept letter, note, message
                                        6)- hidden (content) letter, note, message

                                        7)- hidden/ concealed book
                                        -)- well-kept book
                                        9)- hidden (content) book

                                        To sum up the statement in the Qur'aan the following is derived;

                                        And truly it is a noble (kariym) reading/recitation (qur'aan) in a hidden/concealed/well kept/hidden(content) writing/piece of writing/note/message/book (kitaab) that none can touch/be in contact with/violate (massa) except for the purified/immaculate (muTaHHaruwn)ones.

                                        What is meant by secret writing is the meaning of all the letters of the alphabet. The qur'aan is written in this writing that the world can read but they have no idea what these letters represent. If you should ask the world the following question,
                                        "What is the meaning of A_L_M ('Alif_LaaM_MiyM) none in the world would know because they do not know the meanings of these letters. These letters and others are the 'abbreviated' letters found at the beginning of 29 of the 114 chapters of the Qur'aan. There have already been about seventy explanations during the last 1400 years which have been mostly nothing but personal understandings with no convincing at all.

                                        To sum it up
                                        "The kitaab is the aayaat of ALLAAH (letters of the alphabet) that are all multi-dimensional-space-time-configurations through which ALLAAH brought into the existence everything. The knowledge of the meaning of these letters will unfold to you this great reality. If you know this program then you will know the Arabic language without even learning it just say the word and pass it through the program and you will instantaneously know the meanings of the words. You can put this easily through the test when we begin to enter the Book (al-kitaab). It does not end there but takes us through all of science and mathematics and explains why everything is the way it is including why ALLAAH called himself ALLAAH.

                                        Let me know when you are ready. I hope that there are others who will respond to my request as you have done.

                                        Thank you and may ALLAAH give us all the guidance inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed).

                                        Hi al-amiyr

                                        I apologize for the late reply. I am ready to know more about your explanation about this secret book. You let me know when we will begin.

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                                          al-amiyr
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                                          Salaam al-amiyr
                                          I have not seen an answer to my questions; otherwise I wouldn't have bothered you.
                                          As I said I only become a pupil after my tutor has answered my questions to my required criteria. However I will be reading your posts, and will not disturb you further as so many are anxious to know what you have to say so please have ypur say.
                                          All the best

                                          +salaam my dear sister farida

                                          Thanks for the patience. I will start uploading tonight the new threat entering the Book (al-kitaab). I was waiting just for one response to my request which none yet effectively responded to.
                                          In the post after the next I will post the missing part of the initial post when I asked, Thereafter I will begin the thread to enter the Book (al-kitaab) inshaa allaah.

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