The Qur'aan and The Hidden Book called The Book (al-kitaab).
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salaam
there is absolutely no hidden book.
37 He is the One who sent down to you the Book, from which there are firm revelations; they are the essence of the Book (OMMOU EL KITAB); and others which are .......
1339 God erases and confirms what He wishes, and with Him is the source of the Book (OMMOU EL KITAB).
434 And it is held honorable and wise in the master record (OMMOU EL KITAB) with Us.For GOD, there is only one religion and only one book.
From the original Book, in the only "Hands" of GOD, he extract (confirms or erase) what he want before transmission to a messager.It is why Quran is speaking only of one book (AL KITAB) and never speaks abouts books (AL KOTOB) even if quran "knows" that torah, injeel Quran and other "extractions" constitute different physical books.
Firsts "extractions" have been lost or altered by humans. Last extraction is protected by God himself but will be deserted and misunderstood.
2530 And the messenger said "My Lord, my people have deserted this Qur'an."13-39 was used by sectarians to justify the bullshit science of naskh and mansoukh.
When sectarians says "People of THE BOOK" are jews and christians and not us, they are simply rejecting "THE BOOK".Peace
salaam+
My red emphases in your text that I have quoted.
Surely that is a bold statement to make. What if I show you the Book (al-kitaab).
Let me ask you this very important question.
What do you think is the Book (al-kitaab)? Please clarify this point.056077 - 080.
And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan
in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
None touches it except the Purified Ones;
a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds. -
Peace,
When it comes to making such grand claims follow this recipe
1.) GET TO THE POINT AND SAY YOUR POINT DIRECTLY
2.) Now you have all the free time in the world to explain what you actually mean, you can write pages and pages of explanation
I am not surprised at this reception. There is no need to drag on and speak about mysticism. Nobody likes mysticism. Nobody cares about what "hidden" secret you have, when you claim to know something secret others don't know it is exceedingly annoying when you will not then divulge it. It is evil to keep secret any knowledge of God that is beneficial to mankind and this is punishable by hellfire in the more extreme of cases.
This isn't a film, this isn't a fictional novel, you do not need to drum up interest. We do not need to hear an intro drum beat. We are already well interested, that is why we are here. Speak directly and to the point or don't bother posting, plain and simple.
O ye who believe! Guard your duty to Allah, and speak words straight to the point;
Anyway, my understanding of the 'hidden book' is that it is totally contained within the quran. But it is not to say that the quran holds it. Rather, 'al-kitab' is the knowledge you gain access to when you act according to God's commandments, work towards purifying yourself and establishing a state of charity and connection to God. The less of God's commandments you violate, the higher the level of knowledge you access of al-kitab. Your perception is always clouded by the evil deeds you have done so it is on us all to cancel out all the negative karmas we have accumulated so as to see the book of God with truly clear sight.
peace
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salaam+
My red emphases in your text that I have quoted.
Surely that is a bold statement to make. What if I show you the Book (al-kitaab).
Let me ask you this very important question.
What do you think is the Book (al-kitaab)? Please clarify this point.056077 - 080.
And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan
in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
None touches it except the Purified Ones;
a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.Salaam al-amiyr
maknun is a word that mean to be covered for protection
that word is applied in 16-81 to mountains we can take as refuge.
56-80 simply means that can KITAB is protected.
However, if you search for a hidden book, then you can consider the original book (ommou el kitab) in possession of GOD from wich quran, torah and others are extracted and given to humans.
That KITAB is in a someway hidden and highly protectedPeace
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Peace,
When it comes to making such grand claims follow this recipe
1.) GET TO THE POINT AND SAY YOUR POINT DIRECTLY
2.) Now you have all the free time in the world to explain what you actually mean, you can write pages and pages of explanation
I am not surprised at this reception. There is no need to drag on and speak about mysticism. Nobody likes mysticism. Nobody cares about what "hidden" secret you have, when you claim to know something secret others don't know it is exceedingly annoying when you will not then divulge it. It is evil to keep secret any knowledge of God that is beneficial to mankind and this is punishable by hellfire in the more extreme of cases.
This isn't a film, this isn't a fictional novel, you do not need to drum up interest. We do not need to hear an intro drum beat. We are already well interested, that is why we are here. Speak directly and to the point or don't bother posting, plain and simple.
O ye who believe! Guard your duty to Allah, and speak words straight to the point;
Anyway, my understanding of the 'hidden book' is that it is totally contained within the quran. But it is not to say that the quran holds it. Rather, 'al-kitab' is the knowledge you gain access to when you act according to God's commandments, work towards purifying yourself and establishing a state of charity and connection to God. The less of God's commandments you violate, the higher the level of knowledge you access of al-kitab. Your perception is always clouded by the evil deeds you have done so it is on us all to cancel out all the negative karmas we have accumulated so as to see the book of God with truly clear sight.
peace
Peace to the nth power
I agree with all the points that you have made that sounds critical of me not that it was meant by you to be critical. On the other hand your understanding of the Book (al-kitaab) is completely your own opinion and it has nothing to do with the Book (al-kitaab). This I will show you and you and all in this forum will also see it. There will be no uncertainty. I have always made it known many years back that I am going to make it known on the internet before December 2012 is out. I have made this known on many forums around the world. Thousands are waiting. Just be a little patient. You have placed this request upon me and therefore I have no option but to fulfill it. If I did not mention it here, then you might not have known about it. I will respond today to all your other points inshaa allaah.
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Peace al-amiyr.
Like all others, I too have been reading your posts. It is sometimes frustrating when someone claims they have something interesting to say but "beat about the bush". So get to the point please.
Please do not get me wrong, I am not being personal, what you want to say may well be good and interesting, so say it.
Also I and many in this forum know that we have a fully detailed book, what you will say will be checked that it agrees and conforms with Qoran, that is how your information will be judged.
So common brother ,finish what you started for us?
Peace.
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Salaam al-amiyr
maknun is a word that mean to be covered for protection
that word is applied in 16-81 to mountains we can take as refuge.
56-80 simply means that can KITAB is protected.
However, if you search for a hidden book, then you can consider the original book (ommou el kitab) in possession of GOD from wich quran, torah and others are extracted and given to humans.
That KITAB is in a someway hidden and highly protectedPeace
Salaam al-amiyr
maknun is a word that mean to be covered for protection
that word is applied in 16-81 to mountains we can take as refuge.
56-80 simply means that can KITAB is protected.
However, if you search for a hidden book, then you can consider the original book (ommou el kitab) in possession of GOD from wich quran, torah and others are extracted and given to humans.
That KITAB is in a someway hidden and highly protectedPeace
wa "alaykumu-sa-salaam my dear brother
You are not wrong but you are not fully correct. The word in the verse(1681) that you have quoted is 'aknaan and not maknuwn.
'aknaan appears once in the Qur'aan (1681)
maknuwn appears four times (3749), (5224),(5623), and(567.
maknuwn as well as 'aknaan is derived from the Arabic verbal root word that means;
1)- he hid
2)- he concealed, covered, cloaked (something)
3)- he sheltered, ensconced, contained (something)
4)- he harbored (a friendship towards)
5)- it calmed down, subsided, abated (wind)'aknaan
1)- places where people are sheltered
2)- covers, shelters, retreats, places of refuge
3)- nest
4)- home, hutmaknuwn
1)- hidden, concealed
2)- well-kept
3)- hidden contentkitaab
1)- a piece of writing, record
2)- letter, note, message
3)- bookSo the qur'aan says;
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And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan
in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
None touches it except the Purified Ones;
a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.a Noble Qur?aan in
1)- hidden/ concealed piece of writing/ record
2)- well-kept piece of writing/ record
3)- hidden (content) piece of writing/ record4)- hidden/ concealed letter, note, message
5)- well-kept letter, note, message
6)- hidden (content) letter, note, message7)- hidden/ concealed book
-)- well-kept book
9)- hidden (content) bookThere you have an idea what the Qur'aan is saying. Inshaa allaah I am making myself ready to show you That Book that is called the Book (al-kitaab). I am already teaching it to many students around the world. Many are at an advanced stage. It has passed through 44 generations of my fore fathers one son after the other and all great scholars of Islaam and the 'itrah (stem) of the family of the prophet Muhammad (S+) through the ages.
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Peace al-amiyr.
Are you claiming there is another book besides "Qoran"?
Peace.
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Peace al-amiyr.
Are you claiming there is another book besides "Qoran"?
Peace.
salaam^ good logic
This is the reason why I have to take my time. Did you not read My introduction brother? Please read it because it is vital that that information must be known. I am preparing my notes which are all complete. I like to discuss on each forum via the mind-set of its main members. Please let me know what was your understanding inshaa allaah. It will be greatly appreciated and beneficial to others as well.
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salaam^ good logic
This is the reason why I have to take my time. Did you not read My introduction brother? Please read it because it is vital that that information must be known. I am preparing my notes which are all complete. I like to discuss on each forum via the mind-set of its main members. Please let me know what was your understanding inshaa allaah. It will be greatly appreciated and beneficial to others as well.
Salaam
In that case, I don't think I would bother with your posts untill December 2012 is out.
Peace -
Salaam
In that case, I don't think I would bother with your posts untill December 2012 is out.
Peacesalaam farida
Why would you want to do that? The Book (al-kitaab) is an interaction between the one who knows and teaches and the one who is learning. It is not something you can point to like any book.
The Kitaab is The Programme based upon The Numbers through which ALLAAH generated The Entire Universe.Containing all the Knowledge including The Qur'aan.
It's name is
ALiF_LaaM_MiyM-Raa'
divided into two parts
called
ALiF_LaaM_MiyM and ALiF_LaaM_Raa'
And this is what you are going to see. And this is what I have been preparing the viewers for. And this is what I hope that they would love to see as most have expressed. I am beginning as from tomorrow. I hope that you will volunteer by answering the questions that I will ask. You do not need to have any prior knowledge. And nothing is complicated. And to everything inshaa allaah.
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A Request
as_salaamu "alaykum
I would like to take the sisters and brothers on the journey into the Book (al-kitaab) tomorrow inshaa allaah. For this I require at least one brother or sister who can confirm after I had asked a question that it had been seen or understood. Let me make it clear that no prior knowledge is required to enter into the Book (al-kitaab). And there is no difficulty of understanding it. See how the Qur'aan unfolds in your own mind to become the whole reality. See what you would never have imagined.
As I said in the opening post, nobody can be told what the Book (al-kitaab) is, you must see it for yourself.
I hope that there is at least one response from someone here who would leave a message to confirm inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed). -
A Request
as_salaamu "alaykum
I would like to take the sisters and brothers on the journey into the Book (al-kitaab) tomorrow inshaa allaah. For this I require at least one brother or sister who can confirm after I had asked a question that it had been seen or understood. Let me make it clear that no prior knowledge is required to enter into the Book (al-kitaab). And there is no difficulty of understanding it. See how the Qur'aan unfolds in your own mind to become the whole reality. See what you would never have imagined.
As I said in the opening post, nobody can be told what the Book (al-kitaab) is, you must see it for yourself.
I hope that there is at least one response from someone here who would leave a message to confirm inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed).Hi al-amiyr
If you think that I can take up the challege let me know. I am willing for this journey that you say you will take us on. I am no dare devil though. But I am very interested in what you have to say.
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My Request
A Request
as_salaamu "alaykum
I would like to take the sisters and brothers on the journey into the Book (al-kitaab) tomorrow inshaa allaah. For this I require at least one brother or sister who can confirm after I had asked a question that it had been seen or understood. Let me make it clear that no prior knowledge is required to enter into the Book (al-kitaab). And there is no difficulty of understanding it. See how the Qur'aan unfolds in your own mind to become the whole reality. See what you would never have imagined.
As I said in the opening post, nobody can be told what the Book (al-kitaab) is, you must see it for yourself.
I hope that there is at least one response from someone here who would leave a message to confirm inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed).First Reply
Hi al-amiyr
If you think that I can take up the challege let me know. I am willing for this journey that you say you will take us on. I am no dare devil though. But I am very interested in what you have to say.
salaam+ one-9-one
You can most surely take up the 'challenge'. In fact, there is no challenge at all. You just follow and read what is being said and when you have understood what was said you will post a reply and say, "confirmed and continue' or whatever you wish to say. If what was said was not clear to you then state that. In this way other readers can have a better understanding and I will know that we are on track. Keep the following in mind
1)- you do not have to be a Muslim to go into the Book (al-kitaab). In fact you can be the hardest anti-theist.
2)- you do not have to have any prior knowledge to enter the the Book (al-kitaab) to fully understand - in fact you could be completely illiterate. You just need a brain that can think.
3)- in fact, no scriptures are even required to enter the Book (al-kitaab). The Book (al-kitaab) is like a computer program (code like e.g. HTML) and your head and your mind can be compared to the hardware. The scriptures (like the Qur'aan, the Torah, the Injiyl, etc in the original language) are the software that executes the program.
4)- The Book (al-kitaab) is the Writing (from Arabic kataba = he wrote (a writing) and the Qur'aan is the Reading/Recitation thereof ( from qara'a = he read/ he recited). The two go together.Read the following verse in the Qur'aan
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And truly it is a Noble Quraan (qur'aan kariym)
in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
None touches it except the Purified Ones;
a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.Let us see what the meaning of the qur'aanic statement is
a Noble Quraan (qur'aan kariym) in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).maknuwn
1)- hidden, concealed
2)- well-kept
3)- hidden contentkitaab
1)- a piece of writing, record
2)- letter, note, message
3)- bookSo the qur'aan says;
056077 - 080.
And truly it is a Noble Quraan
in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
None touches it except the Purified Ones;
a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.a Noble Quraan( Reading / Recitation from qara'a = he read/ he recited). in
1)- hidden/ concealed piece of writing/ record
2)- well-kept piece of writing/ record
3)- hidden (content) piece of writing/ record4)- hidden/ concealed letter, note, message
5)- well-kept letter, note, message
6)- hidden (content) letter, note, message7)- hidden/ concealed book
-)- well-kept book
9)- hidden (content) bookTo sum up the statement in the Qur'aan the following is derived;
And truly it is a noble (kariym) reading/recitation (qur'aan) in a hidden/concealed/well kept/hidden(content) writing/piece of writing/note/message/book (kitaab) that none can touch/be in contact with/violate (massa) except for the purified/immaculate (muTaHHaruwn)ones.
What is meant by secret writing is the meaning of all the letters of the alphabet. The qur'aan is written in this writing that the world can read but they have no idea what these letters represent. If you should ask the world the following question,
"What is the meaning of A_L_M ('Alif_LaaM_MiyM) none in the world would know because they do not know the meanings of these letters. These letters and others are the 'abbreviated' letters found at the beginning of 29 of the 114 chapters of the Qur'aan. There have already been about seventy explanations during the last 1400 years which have been mostly nothing but personal understandings with no convincing at all.To sum it up
"The kitaab is the aayaat of ALLAAH (letters of the alphabet) that are all multi-dimensional-space-time-configurations through which ALLAAH brought into the existence everything. The knowledge of the meaning of these letters will unfold to you this great reality. If you know this program then you will know the Arabic language without even learning it just say the word and pass it through the program and you will instantaneously know the meanings of the words. You can put this easily through the test when we begin to enter the Book (al-kitaab). It does not end there but takes us through all of science and mathematics and explains why everything is the way it is including why ALLAAH called himself ALLAAH.Let me know when you are ready. I hope that there are others who will respond to my request as you have done.
Thank you and may ALLAAH give us all the guidance inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed).
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So the qur'aan says;
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And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan
in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
None touches it except the Purified Ones;Salaam al-amiyr
I wrote that I would not bother with your posts till 2012 ends, but your PM has prompted me to read your posts and reply to you here. I hope you wont mind if I put here what you said
There is nothing to fear. Do not be afraid. I have even taken children into the Book (al-kitaab). It is a command from ALLAAH that the world should know this Book. Look at the verse of the Qur'aan that I have presented in the opening posts. I hope that you will re-consider inshaa allaah. It will take up nothing extra of your time.'
My reply to you is that I am not afraid and I have plenty of time to learn but my tutor has to fulfill certain criteria before I start to learn from him/her and lined to this test is this question;
the surah says; None touches it except the Purified Ones;
If you claim to be from a family of purified ones then you would have to pass that test for me; otherwise you have whole world open to learn as you say
1)- you do not have to be a Muslim to go into the Book (al-kitaab). In fact you can be the hardest anti-theist.
Beside if It is a command from ALLAAH that the world should know this Book. In that case this command will be fulfilled with or without my contribution.
Best regards -
Salaam al-amiyr
I wrote that I would not bother with your posts till 2012 ends, but your PM has prompted me to read your posts and reply to you here. I hope you wont mind if I put here what you said
There is nothing to fear. Do not be afraid. I have even taken children into the Book (al-kitaab). It is a command from ALLAAH that the world should know this Book. Look at the verse of the Qur'aan that I have presented in the opening posts. I hope that you will re-consider inshaa allaah. It will take up nothing extra of your time.'
My reply to you is that I am not afraid and I have plenty of time to learn but my tutor has to fulfill certain criteria before I start to learn from him/her and lined to this test is this question;
the surah says; None touches it except the Purified Ones;
If you claim to be from a family of purified ones then you would have to pass that test for me; otherwise you have whole world open to learn as you say
1)- you do not have to be a Muslim to go into the Book (al-kitaab). In fact you can be the hardest anti-theist.
Beside if It is a command from ALLAAH that the world should know this Book. In that case this command will be fulfilled with or without my contribution.
Best regards+salaam sister farida
You have spoken correctly. Here is some history of my forefathers who were all great scholars of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Qur'aan. A family through the ages that paid a heavy and desired price to serve ALLAAH and ALLAAH Alone.
The Most Illustrious Family Of Islaam Or That Of The Ages According to those who know.
There is a Family that has now produced 43 generations of learned men, one son after the other, and all of them great scholars of Islaam. They are linked ( by blood or as advisers ) in one way or another to all the Khulafaa' (Khaliyfs) in the history of the whole of Islaam since the death of the messenger of ALLAAH (A*)(S+). This family has produced more than 500 000 scholars over the one thousand four hundred years of Islamic history. It is said that this family is the "itrah (stem) of 'ahlu-l-bayt ( family of the Prophet's house) which generated the different branches. We are speaking about the " Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy " Family. The last great well known scholar of this family was al-bahru-l-muhaqqaq (universal scholar of knowledge) and al-"ilmu-l-mudaqqaq (scholar whose knowledge is meticulous) and shaykhu-l-"ilm (most learned among the scholars) and shaykhu-l-islaam (one of the top advisors to the Islaamic Ruler) and muftiy al-''arba"u-l-'a'immah (scholar and judge of all the Islaamic schools of thought) maulanaa (title) and mullaa (title) as-sayyid Abu Bakr Effendi Al-khushnaawiy Al-qurashiy Al-Amjadiy (1814 - 1880). He was the adviser to the last absolute Sultans and Khaliyfs of The Ottoman Islamic State or Empire i.e. Sultans and Khaliyfs Abdul-Majid(1839 - 1861) , Abdul-Aziz (1861 - 1876) and Abdul-Hamid (1876 - 1909).
Here is a short history of one great ancestor (12th grandson of Zayd ibn Ali the grandson of imaam Husayn grandson of the Prophet (S+) and the 25th ancestor of the above mentioned Shaykh of Knowledge.
Abu-NaSr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan Al-Ghaaziy Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy( c.1057 - c.1134 )
abuw naSr al_amiyr sulaymaan
was
one of the most extraordinary and exemplary men who ever lived.
He was a most gracious philanthropist,
a supreme commander,
and by the grace of ALLAAH (A*), a most successful man in everything he set out to do.
He was a great benefactor and promoter of knowledge and education
and above all
he was a man who, like his ancestors, loved and served The Lord
with all his heart, soul and mind.To
the twenty-eight
generations of his learned descendants,
one son after the other,
over the next nine hundred years,
he was known as the father of help,
the man of good deeds, meritorious actions,
and
the shepherd of the flock of his future generations.According to the family oral history, Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan was a direct descendant and inheritor of King Sulaymaan (Soloman), son of King Daawud (David) Kings of Judah through the line of Yuwsuf (Joseph) and Maryam (Mary), the mother of "Iysaa (Jesus).
It was said that he was the prophesied father (abu) of the Branch (naSr) which would bear fruit from the offshoot of Yassaa (Jessie), the father of King Daawud (David).
Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan was also the twelfth direct descendant of Zayd, the son of "Aliy Zaynul_"aabidiyn (grandson of FaaTimah(P+), (daughter of the prophet Muhammad (S+) and Haydaan,the highborn captured princess of India.
Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan was also regarded as one of the six Mu'lifiyn (Thousanders) who was to be born or because he was born at the dawn or rise of the next millenium.
It has been said that the seventh mu'allif (Thousander) would be a direct descendant of Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan.
The other Thousanders were Aadam (Adam (P+), Nuwh (Noah (P+), 'IbraaHiym (Abraham (P+), Daawud (David (P+) and"Iysaa (Jesus (P+) to whom Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan were all related genealogically.Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan, because of his family inheritance, his skillful business foresight and his spoils of war acquisitions became an immensely wealthy man. In fact he became one of the wealthiest individuals of his day. It has been estimated that his personal fixed property alone amounted to over one hundred square kilometers. His net worth today would amount to billions of dollars.
Despite his enormous wealth, Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan lived a remarkably simple life and was very rarely seen in public. It was his usual practice to spend most of his time in isolation worshipping his Lord. All who met him were struck by his simplicity and were sworn to uphold his hidden family identity.One day, Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan, called for an appointed day of assembly of the tribal Elders, other prominent Leaders, Scholars and Learned men. He told them that the time had come for him to give up all his wealth and use it all for the lofty cause of his Lord. He told them that all the moneys and proceeds of the lands must all go for the upkeep of the school that he had created and build in Siysaawah (near Shahrizur, Arbil or Sulaymaniyah in Iraq).
After having stated all the conditions of the school which among others are that-
- it shall be a school that shall be open to all who wish to learn.
-it shall be a school in which all who wish to learn shall have the right to free education in it.
-it shall be a school in which all who wish to learn shall have the right to free food from it.
-and it shall be a school in which all who wish to learn shall have the right to free lodging in it.
Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan stated that he had placed everything into the hands of Abul_muhsin Mullaa "Uthmaan Haamid
whom he said was the most upright and learned of his sons
and that he shall be responsible for the upkeep of the school and for the overseeing of the execution of all the stipulated conditions.
Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan also stated that after Abul_muhsin Mullaa "Uthmaan Haamid had passed on, the school shall be placed in the charge of the most upright and learned of the sons of his sons and so forth. And if it were to happen that they should become degenerate then it shall be placed in the charge of the sons of his daughters and so forth. And if it were also to happen that they were to go from bad to worse then it shall go to any of the most upright and learned of his scattered descendants who took up the course to uphold this eternal foundation and endowment .And if they should die out then it shall go on to the daughters of his daughters .And if they should die out it then it shall pass on to the nearest of the tribe and then to humanity.
In the end he prayed and sought refuge in The All_Mighty Creator ,Preserver and Destroyer, who sees to the end of time,
to protect his descendants from gradual corrosion and ultimate obliteration.Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan had everything written down and dated Wednesday, 23 Muharram 523A.H (corresponding to 23 January 1129).
Then signed it
Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan Al-Gaaziy Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy (The poor man in need of The All_Mighty).
Here is more about the school of this family that lasted over seven hundred years until it was finally destroyed in 1831 and the family again had to flee to another part of the world and with it soon to be demise of the visible Ottoman Sunni Islaamic Khilaafah.
During the last ten years members of The Turkish Government (including Prime Minister Erdogan and Foreign Minister Davutoglu) came to South Africa.One of the first things they requested was to go to the grave of The Shaykh of Knowledge As_sayyid Abdullaah Abu Bakr Effendi al-khushnaawiy al-Qurashiy al-Amjadiy (1814-1880). This was reported in both the South African and Turkish Media.The Shaykh of Knowledge is buried on the world famous Signal Hill that is the abdomen part of a mountain shaped in the form of a crouching lion which lies next to The World Renowned Table Mountain (now voted by humanity and declared a seventh wonder of the world and said to be the most wondrous mountain in the world). The history of The Shaykh of Knowledge, his ancestry and his coming to South Africa has been described by historians and other writers as amazing and crying out to be written. It all started like this when the Muslims of The Colony of The Cape of Good Hope wrote a letter to the Governor as follows.
A unique historical event
On 16 April 1862
The Muslims of The Colony of The Cape of Good Hope
Cape Town
South Africa
wrote a letter to the Governor as follows.
"As it is well known, 85 years ago some of Javenese islands fell into the hands of
The Dutch Government.
Our fathers were all tied up in chains, enslaved and brought here.
We were afflicted with suffering and problems;
the Honourable British Empire set us free from the slavery of the previous government
and gave us our liberty.
For that, we thank the empire for it's help and grace, and in case of necessity,
it is incumbent upon us to sacrifice ourselves for it's cause.
We once again express our thanks and gratitude.
It is obvious that each nation has to know and apply it's religion and way of life and practice.
But
we forgot our language of origin, the language of Javenese,
the books and treatises are all written in that language and therefore
we obviously need a teacher to read and teach them.
Since the situation is like this
it is requested to bring
a scholar-teacher from a Muslim country
in order to teach and train us."16 Shawwaal 1278 (16 April 1862)
Signature
Muslim people
Cape of Good HopeOmar Lutfi " A travelogue of my journey to The Cape of Good hope. p.7.
translated by Yusuf KavakciThe Governor replied to the Muslims that it was not an easy matter for him and it had to be referred to Her Majesty Queen Victoria for Approval. ... The Governor's letter with the petition of the Muslims arrived at Queen Victoria's Government and it was discussed in parliament and recommendations were made. They then sent The letter to The Khalif of The Sunni World Sultan Abdul Aziz and The High Council of Islamic Affairs..................... It was Decided that the best person for the undertaking would be The Shaykh of Knowledge and The Shaykh of Islaam Abu Bakr Effendi(as he is mostly known). On 01 October 1862 The Shaykh of Knowledge left The Ottoman Islamic Khilafat in a ship from Istanbul bound for The Western World (it has been said that it was the first time in history that such an event took place between a Muslim government and a Christian one).
The Shaykh of Knowledge arrived in London on the 15 October 1862 and later at the palace of Queen Victoria where he met Lord Chamberlain who was waiting for his arrival. After spending one and a half months there he left on 01 December 1862 for The Colony of the Cape of Good Hope, Cape Town, South Africa.
The Shaykh of Knowledge arrived in Cape Town in the early morning of the 13th of January 1863 where soon all the prominent Imams of the Muslims came to welcome him. A photograph of the Shaykh with all the prominent Muslims leaders was taken and believed to be the oldest photograph of Muslims in South Africa if not its oldest dated in the country. The Shaykh of Knowledge did not wait long and within one month he set up a school of higher learning and had over 300 students out of a population of 17000. One of the first reforms he did was to encourage the ladies to return to wearing their modest Islaamic dress and then selected among the most intelligent ones among his students whom he then trained as teachers.He opened the first school of hifz and Arabic in South Africa as well as the first Muslim girls school and so forth. He trained many learned men and set up schools in many parts of Southern Africa. All this while he was learning to master the local language and English. The Shaykh also wrote the first book in the local language(354 pages) which was a mixture of Dutch and a smack of other languages which became Afrikaans, an Official language of South Africa. After the death of The Sultan and Khaliyf Abdul-Aziz, the Shaykh went back to Istanbul (1876) and one of the first things the new Sultan(Khalif Sultan Abdul-Hamid) did was to sign the printing of his book called The Explanation of the Diyn(Bayaanuddiyn). 1500 copies of the book was printed and it was translated in 1960 into English by a Dutch Scholar.It is said The Shaykh of Knowledge had more than 10 000 students all over the world. (Including Muhammad Dollie who went to England and found the first or one of the first Masjids there).
The Shaykh was born in Shahrizur Iraq in 1814 and started his education under his father aged two and had memorized the Quran by six. He studied first in the school set up in 523 Hijra or 1129 ACE. by his 25th ancestor known as abuw naSr al-amiyr sulaymaan al-ghaaziy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy. All the ancestors of the Shaykh were great scholars and many were advisers to those who had ruled as Khaliyfs of the Muslims . The family always lived and kept a low profile so as not to make known their full identity. As so many of the forefathers were killed beheaded and crucified. They were the secret family who went into hiding of amiyr Zayd ibn Ali ( son of Imam Zaynul Abidiyn son of amiyr Husayn grandson of the Prophet (S+).
Zayd ibn Ali was killed ,beheaded and crucified in a battle similar to the battle of Badr by the Umayyad forces.His body (skeleton) remained on the cross naked for four years and when the next Umayyad Khaliyf took over, he ordered that the skeleton be taken down burnt and then scattered to the wind over the Euphrates River. Amiyr Zayd ibn Ali's son yahyaa then took up the imaamat after him and was also killed , beheaded and crucified and his body remained on the cross for six years... (then imaam Ja'far aS-Saadiq handed it over to muhammad nafsuzzakiyyah and his brother Ibraahiym) muhammad was also killed ,beheaded and crucified. Then Ibraahiym took it up and he too was killed , beheaded and crucified. Like that the this branch (or stem of the Haashemites of Ahlul-bayt were despised by the people.Then the standard of imaamat and amiyrship passed on to "iysaa ibn Zayd ibn Ali(the forth son of Zayd ibn Ali). All over the world the government pursued Imaam amiyr "iysaa. After imaam amiyr "iysaa his son imaam amiyr ahmad took up the standard and went into hiding. He is known to history as ahmad al-mukhtafiy(the hidden). Then he fled to the land of Khashnaw(at sisawa in Iraq among the Kurds) and there he and his descendants kept a low profile and tried to attract no attention.It has also been reported that the ancestors of the Khashnaaw was give a ring by imaam zaynul Aabidiyn to rule over the territory of Khashnaaw. About 300 years later the family again surfaced when the twelfth descendant of Zayd ibn Ali arose by the name of the above mentioned abuw naSr al-amiyr sulaymaan al-ghaaziy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy and he founded his school.This is a brief outline of the Family Tree of The shaykh of Knowledge
shaykh-ul-ilm and shaykhu-l-islaam -> abd-ullaah abuw-bakr <- effendi al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 1229 - 1297) / ( 1814 - 1880 )
son of
1
mullaa amiyr -> umar <- effendi al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 1192 - 1247 ) / ( 1778 - 1831 )
son of
1
Salaah-ud-diyn mullaa amiyr -> muSTafaa <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 1157 - 1224 ) / ( 1744 - 1809 )
son of
1
mawlanaa baabaa piyr -> sulaymaan <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-'amjadiy
( 1136 - 1199 ) / ( 1723 - 1785 )
son of
1
mullaa -> muSTafaa <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - 1167 ) / ( - 1754 )
son of
mullaa -> ibraahiym <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - 1152 ) / ( - 1739 )
son of
1
amiyr -> sulaymaan<- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 1068 - 1130 ) / ( 1657- 1718 )
son of
1
amiyr -> muhammad <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 1045- 1110 ) / ( 1635 - 1698 )
son of
1
aDaD-ud-diyn -> abd-ullaah abiy-zayd -><- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 1012 - 1077 ) / ( 1603 - 1666 )
son of
1
izz-ud-diyn -> muhammad al-faDlu qaddasa sirrahu <-al_khushnaawiy al_qurashiy al_'amjadiy
( 976 - 1039 ) / ( 1568 - 1629 )
son of
1
amiyr -> abd-ullaah <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 937 - 1003 ) / ( 1530 - 1594 )
son of
1
zayn-ud-diyn mullaa -> ahmad <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 900 - 967 ) / ( 1494 - 1559 )
son of
1
mullaa abd- ul- haq -> sulaymaan <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 871 - 929 ) / ( 1466 - 1523 )
son of
1
abu-sulaymaan -><- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( 841 - 882 ) / ( 1437 - 1477 )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb DhuHuwr-ud-diyn-><- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( ? - c.850 ) / ( ? - c.1446 )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-muHaymin -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ullaah -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ur-razzaaq -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-us-samiy -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-u llaah -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-waliyy -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ullaah -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb buTuwn-ud-diyn -><- <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( c.541 - ? ) / (c.1146 - ? )
son of
1
abuw-l-muhsin mullaa -> uthmaan haamid <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( c. 483 - c.555 ) / (c. 1090 - c.1160 )
son of
1
abuw-naSr al-amiyr -> sulaymaan <-al-ghaaziy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( c. 459 - c.528 ) / ( c.1057 - c.1134 )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb iyqaaDh-ud-diyn -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-hakiym -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ullaah -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-baSiyr-><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ullaah-><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-khabiyr-> <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-baatin -> <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
mawlanaa -> ahmad <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
'amiyr abd-ul-majiyd -> muhammad abd-ullaah sulaymaan<- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
'amiyr abd-u-l-hamiyd al-khalaf->'ahmadu-l-mukhtafiy abd-ullaah muhammad<- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
(? - ?) / (? -? )
son of
1
'amiyr abd-uS-Samad as-salaf->"abdullaah yahyaa iysaa<- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
'amiyr-ul-mujaahidiyn haliyfu-l-qur'aan -> zaydu-al-shahiyd <- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
imaam zaynu-l-aabidiyn -> aliy as-sajjaad <- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
amiyr-ush-shuhadaa imaam -> husayn <- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
khaliyfatullaah amiyr-ul-mu?miniyn -> aliy <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
abuw Taalib -> imraan <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
abd-l-muTTalib ->shayba <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
Haashim -> amru-l-ulaa <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
abdu manaaf -> al-mughiyra <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
quSayy -> zayd <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
kilaab -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
murra -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
ka"b -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
lu'ayy -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
ghaalib -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
1
fihr -><-al-quraysh al-amjadiy
( - ) / ( - )
son of
Now this is my family history. I hope that answered something of your question.
- it shall be a school that shall be open to all who wish to learn.
-
Peace al-amiyr.
I have no idea who you think you are addressing?
God has sent down to us " Qoran", a fully detailed book. God said He teaches /explains/... His book.
God said He is the only one who guides.
Now are you expecting us to believe you can teach us the " book"?
What is all the " nonsense" you listed in your post? What has it got to do with the book?
I am sorry I only trust in God Alone. Like they say in "dragon den" I am out.
I am honestly not interested in something worse than " hadith".
Please, please do not waste peoples time, if you do not have something interesting to say.
Peace.
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Peace al-amiyr.
Now are you expecting us to believe you can teach us the " book"?
Peace.
My emphasis in quoting from you.
+salaam good logic
It is a simple test to check if I can. If I cannot do you think that you must have any fear. Remember truth never runs away from falsehood. And you will never find me speaking with a bad tone to others unless they are bent on stopping the word of ALLAAH from being heard.
Those who behave arrogantly on the earth in defiance of right -
them will I turn away from My signs
Even if they see all the signs, they will not believe in them;
and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not adopt it as the way;
but if they see the way of error, that is the way they will adopt.
For they have rejected our signs, and failed to take warning from them.
Peace
-
+salaam sister farida
You have spoken correctly. Here is some history of my forefathers who were all great scholars of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Qur'aan. A family through the ages that paid a heavy and desired price to serve ALLAAH and ALLAAH Alone.
This is a brief outline of the Family Tree of The shaykh of Knowledge
........
....
Now this is my family history. I hope that answered something of your question.Salaam al-amiyr
Thank you for replying to my post. I did not expect to know your family history, but I read through it, so are you saying that you are the hidden Imam about which Ayatollah Khomeini talked?
Secondly, as you are teaching arabic, maybe it will help me if you could explain to me the meaning of the word "Mullaa"?
Salaam -
Peace al-amiyr.
Thank you for the reminder of which could apply to any of us.
May I also remind you of the following verses , as you should be aware of course
873 ? Unless you keep the commandments of GOD, ( and follow only the word of GOD!) there will be Chaos on earth and terrible corruption.?
978 Do they not realise ( all humans!) that GOD knows their secrets and their conspiracies and that GOD is the knower of all secrets??
1060 Does it ever occur to those who fabricate lies ( invent false religions, write their own rules/books?) about GOD that they will have to face HIM on the day of judgement??
Peace.
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with respect, I've continued to read the 4 pages of this thread, parts I feel I can hear a trumpet fanfare declaring something wonderful is coming.........and coming.......and coming..........and yet 4 pages of this thread and I'm still waiting. The vast majority of what you have posted can also be found word for word on many other forums........I still found no more explanation of that which is coming.......
peace