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Al-Amiyr's claims and statements - let's examine

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    al-amiyr
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    Just because I delayed to answer your question, doesn't mean that I will never answer.
    Anyway your question is unnecessary because I have already said "show the Book".

    I see you arose quickly from your hiding place. The question is perfectly necessary. You never answered it! Please do not get technical!

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      diamantinehoneybunch
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      I see you arose quickly from your hiding place. The question is perfectly necessary. You never answered it! Please do not get technical!

      If I have already said SHOW THE BOOK, why is it necessary to ask again?
      There are many other things that are more beneficial and much better to do on this forum than replying to a delusional person like you. Why do you expect I will keep replying to your posts?
      And surprisingly (not so), I have read that maaaaany people on this forum criticized you. Just look at this thread is enough.

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        diamantinehoneybunch
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        Who is stopping him from posting anything? He is free to post whatever he pleases. But we are also free to question whatever he proposes.

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          al-amiyr
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          If I have already said SHOW THE BOOK, why is it necessary to ask again?
          There are many other things that are more beneficial and much better to do on this forum than replying to a delusional person like you. Why do you expect I will keep replying to your posts?
          And surprisingly (not so), I have read that maaaaany people on this forum criticized you. Just look at this thread is enough.

          Well I am showing the Book (al-kitaab) to many. Do not ask me the question again! Well I do not mind criticism. It is good. Many who have criticized me came to see things for themselves afterwards and they are learning now.

          Do you know what vowels are called in Arabic?

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            diamantinehoneybunch
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            Well I am showing the Book (al-kitaab) to many. Do not ask me the question again! Well I do not mind criticism. It is good. Many who have criticized me came to see things for themselves afterwards and they are learning now.

            Do you know what vowels are called in Arabic?

            Vowels? As far as I know vowels are called Harakat.

            Anyway I just challenged you to show the book + the contents about commandment to stone people , not teach. Anyway if you don't want and just only want to teach your knowledge about the book, okay fine.

            Let's stop this chatter.

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              al-amiyr
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              Vowels? As far as I know vowels are called Harakat.

              Anyway I just challenged you to show the book + the contents about commandment to stone people , not teach. Anyway if you don't want and just only want to teach your knowledge about the book, okay fine.

              Let's stop this chatter.

              This is part of showing you the Book (al-kitaab).

              Correct! Vowels are called harakaat! Do you know why?

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                diamantinehoneybunch
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                This is part of showing you the Book (al-kitaab).

                Correct! Vowels are called harakaat! Do you know why?

                No I don't.

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                  al-amiyr
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                  No I don't.

                  That is why you must learn the Book (al-kitaab). It will show you all this knowledge with all the proofs without any doubt. I will come to this later!

                  Do you know the Arabic alphabet?

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                    diamantinehoneybunch
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                    That is why you must learn the Book (al-kitaab). It will show you all this knowledge with all the proofs without any doubt. I will come to this later!

                    Do you know the Arabic alphabet?

                    Yes.

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                      al-amiyr
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                      Yes.

                      Great!


                      The 19th last chapter of the Qur'aan which contains the first five revealed verses reads at the beginning as follows

                      iqra' bismi rabbikalladhiy khalaqa
                      Read/Recite! In the name of thy Lord who created.

                      Here is the whole Arabic Alphabet (consonants only). Just have a look at it. In the next post I will present thirteen letters that we shall examine more closely.

                      Remember to read from right to left.

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet1.png

                      Do you have any disagreement with the above?

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                        diamantinehoneybunch
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                        Peace,

                        Thanks.

                        No disagreement.

                        Anyway if you have already posted posts that are almost similar to what you are going to post to me, don't need to re-type or re-post them again. Just post the links to the posts that you have created so that you won't get tired for re-typing them again.

                        Have a nice day! )

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                          al-amiyr
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                          Peace,

                          Thanks.

                          No disagreement.

                          Anyway if you have already posted posts that are almost similar to what you are going to post to me, don't need to re-type or re-post them again. Just post the links to the posts that you have created so that you won't get tired for re-typing them again.

                          Have a nice day!

                          I do not mind typing every over for a young lady who is ready to create a diamantinehoneybunch revolution. As long as she equips herself with knowledge to conquer the world..

                          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet1.png

                          What is your opinion? Do you think ALLAAH himself were part of the design and naming of the letters of the Qur'aan or do you think that they are the work of man?

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                            diamantinehoneybunch
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                            I don't think alphabets are created by God. They are human inventions.

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                              al-amiyr
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                              I don't think alphabets are created by God. They are human inventions.

                              You did not answer the question correctly. I will ask again,"

                              http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet1.png

                              What is your opinion? Do you think ALLAAH himself were part of the design and naming of the letters of the Qur'aan or do you think that they are the work of man?

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                                Man_of_Faith
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                                Salaam,

                                Arabic as a language with its symbols is not perfect enough to originate from God. Why would later students of the scripture add extra markers to the script if it was perfect as it is?

                                Face it. Good simply chose this language because it suited Him and was relevant at the time.

                                God bless you

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                                  huruf
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                                  I think Arabic, as prototype of semitic languages is an artificial language. As to whether God or manmade, everything is God made one way or another.

                                  Salaam

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                                    Man_of_Faith
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                                    Salaam,

                                    For whatever al-amiyr claims or states I can grasp very little of what he is trying to convey. And if this specific al-kitab is the Message, which has been there all along, I never got an answer to.

                                    God's Message is so easy to understand, so why is al-amiyr's attempts to explain the Message so hard to understand. I feel you have to be a professor to analyze the data.

                                    And for the Arabic language I am sure it was developed by humans and not God. Certainly everything goes through God, but it is not like Arabic is a flawless language. God can in the best way possible utilize Arabic when He inspired the Quran to Muhammad, but it was a specifically chosen language of revelation, then.

                                    There are riddles in Quran such as the signatures, but they are part of a phenomenon where one person will probably crack its code at some point as God would not add meaningless/useless letters without any future use.

                                    God bless you

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                                      sword_of_tashayyu
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                                      Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                                      So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

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                                        al-amiyr
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                                        Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                                        So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

                                        Welcome back Mr tashayyu! I see you returned with your typical hit and run tactics. See that you are fearful of taking up the challenge I will leave you to enjoy the sun.

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                                          GODsubmitter
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                                          Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                                          So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

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