Fear God OR Love God
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Fear vs love.
The only way one is able to feel fear is when the person is operating from their brain/mind/ego. Ego is an artificial entity, the false sense of self, created by the feedback that we receive from the external world (But remember that from "east, west, south and north", i.e external world, come the influence of the devil.
God, in the other hand, is available when one looks deeper within. Being closer than "jugular vein", one gets the feeling of closeness with God. Love is the feeling that God has put within us, it is the feeling that connects us to our creator.
In order to feel love, one needs to open up the heart (with the closed heart one is purely in the mind, operating from the ego, thus making Ego the leader) and simply surrender. Love can not be forced, it can only surrendered into.
When one is experiencing love, there is no place for fear. When one is experiencing fear, there is no space for love.So this is how it works for me. When I am love, I am in a state of surrender. I have surrendered my mind, my ego, my will to that of love. In that state I experience compassion, appreciation, peacefulness. In that state, the best way for me to go makes itself known to me. My life is filled with synchronicities and things come easily. I feel blessed.
When I feel fearful, it is because of what is in my mind - the thoughts that I think are making me feel this way. It is an unbalanced, closed state. In a state of fear I feel limited, stuck, not very free. In order to free myself from it, I need to stop, relax, open up my heart, and allow love to take over. I need to let go of fear. I need to let go of the thoughts that bring on the fear. Fear is to do with the worries and uncertainties of the future. But by handing the future over to God, there is nothing to fear or worry about. There are only blessings to appreciate. and love.
The ego is fearful of God, because to be one with love is the death to the ego.
When I am one with love, there are no fears. There is only peace... -
Good thread. I don't think I personally fear God that much, but I try to be mindful of Him and of my actions and of how I am affecting myself and other people. Doesn't always work, but I try.
It's interesting because when I read Qur'an, a lot of times I've gotten the impression that believers are very fearful of God. There's a verse I read a few days ago that said that the believers constantly seek forgiveness at night, and the only image that comes to my mind is a bunch of people on their knees, shaking, emotionally praying, and asking for God's mercy. Maybe I'm strange. Does anyone else get a different image?
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fear mongering god is the devil in disguise ...thats how I perceive it. Any faith that comes out of fear is bad faith... and muslims have abused it to the fullest...ISIS is using it... Talibans used it, CIA uses it ......all dictators use it.... One can witness the horror of fear in this world today..... fear of hunger, fear of disrespect, fear of loosing, fear of what not will drive you crazy...... Fear does not bring out honesty from people rather it subdues ones inner problems to go deeper and screw up the whole process from root.......
This is the term that disturbs me the most in Quran. Fear creates distance from truth . blind faith comes out of fear... devil uses it as the greatest tool. those who say fear brings them closer to God have not understood God at all....
being concerned and being in the state of fear is different thing. As muslims abide by the fear to understand God, they seem to be the most derailed nation of present time....isnt it obvious..??
this is my perception.....I choose God of Love over fear...no matter what books tells me .. I have stopped idolizing books..
peace
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fear mongering god is the devil in disguise ...thats how I perceive it. Any faith that comes out of fear is bad faith... and muslims have abused it to the fullest...ISIS is using it... Talibans used it, CIA uses it ......all dictators use it.... One can witness the horror of fear in this world today..... fear of hunger, fear of disrespect, fear of loosing, fear of what not will drive you crazy...... Fear does not bring out honesty from people rather it subdues ones inner problems to go deeper and screw up the whole process from root.......
This is the term that disturbs me the most in Quran. Fear creates distance from truth . blind faith comes out of fear... devil uses it as the greatest tool. those who say fear brings them closer to God have not understood God at all....
being concerned and being in the state of fear is different thing. As muslims abide by the fear to understand God, they seem to be the most derailed nation of present time....isnt it obvious..??
this is my perception.....I choose God of Love over fear...no matter what books tells me .. I have stopped idolizing books..
peace
Be quiet and don't insult our Lord, we fear and love Him at the same time and may He grant us protection from hypocrites like you. Where's your proof to your disgusting claim? Is it your associate devil telling you to spread their lies? Only the devil is using you.
3175 It is only the devil trying to create fear for his allies, so do not fear
them, but fear Me if you are believers.Repent while you can. Hell is prepared for people like you.
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Be quiet and don't insult our Lord, we fear and love Him at the same time and may He grant us protection from hypocrites like you. Where's your proof to your disgusting claim? Is it your associate devil telling you to spread their lies? Only the devil is using you.
3175 It is only the devil trying to create fear for his allies, so do not fear
them, but fear Me if you are believers.Repent while you can. Hell is prepared for people like you.
I didnt insult your God....Its your mind which is telling you this...thats the whisper Quran talks about.
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I didnt insult your God....Its your mind which is telling you this...thats the whisper Quran talks about.
Nope, only the devil would say don't fear God. You insulted God by saying He is the devil in disguise because God says fear Him. I don't bear witness to this!
3175 It is only the devil trying to create fear for his allies, so do not fear
them, but fear Me if you are believers3199 And from the people of the Book are those who believe in God
and what was sent down to you and what was sent down to them;
fearful to God, they do not purchase with the revelations of God
a cheap price. These will have their recompense with their Lord.
For God is swift in reckoning.528 ?If you stretch your hand to kill me, I will not stretch my hand to
kill you, for I fear God, Lord of the worlds.?756 And do not corrupt the earth after it has been made right; and call
on Him fearing and hoping. Surely the mercy of God is near the
righteous.1414 ?And We will let you reside in the land after them. That is for
those who fear My station and fear My warning.1650 They fear their Lord from above them, and they do what they are
commanded.3216 Their sides readily forsake their beds, to call on their Lord out of
fear and hope, and from Our provisions to them they give.5546 And for he who feared the station of his Lord, there will be two
gardens.7940 And as for he who feared the station of his Lord, and prohibited
the self from desire.My Lord will even reward the believers who fear Him! You want to turn this reward away from us with your suggestions?!
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Peace.
The concept of "fear" doesn't always imply the notion of being afraid. It can also mean to have a profound reverence and awe of something or someone. I think that's closer to what people mean when they say that they 'fear' God. So, in this case, many people's position would be that they fear AND love God, since the two ideas complement each other.
Peace,
Ahmad
Agreed
3175 It is only the devil trying to create fear (Kh waw fa) for his allies, so do not fear them (kh waw fa), but fear (Kh waw fa) Me if you are believers.
I think the root firstly might mean ?feel awe?, not fear. They are close in meaning, but they are not exactly the same awe and fear are 2 different things that usually get confused in our limited minds when it comes to feelings and sensations.
When watching the huge forces of the enemy the devil creates ?awe? in the hearts, and this awe would become fear and terror. Therefore, the awe deviates into fear, but it is not (awe and fear) necessary the same, if you think of it. Look at the "if you are believers" that follows, it gives the whole point.
In the case of God you feel awe, but it does not lead to fear or terror, otherwise it makes no sense. Why would we fear ?forgiveness and grace??
2268 The devil promises you poverty and orders you to immorality, while God promises forgiveness from Him and grace. God is Encompassing, Knowledgeable.
And looking at the whole Quran where we are said constantly that He is the Merciful, would a real believer feel ?terror?? Would the One and Merciful ask us to feel ?fear? when he promises understanding and justice?
We should not. Actually the feeling for deity must be other
2165 And from among the people are some who take other than God as equals to Him, they love them as they love God; but those who believe love God more strongly.
I find this extremely interesting if you are a believer because terror overflows your heart when you think of God and this is your concept of the Merciful, then you are a believer, ok, accepted. But you are absolutely not in a next stage of faith.
Have a great day and may God bless you all sun
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Salaaaaam peace
3175 It is only the devil trying to create fear (Kh waw fa) for his allies, so do not fear them (kh waw fa), but fear (Kh waw fa) Me if you are believers.
I think the root firstly might mean ?feel awe?, not fear. They are close in meaning, but they are not exactly the same awe and fear are 2 different things that usually get confused in our limited minds when it comes to feelings and sensations.
When watching the huge forces of the enemy the devil creates ?awe? in the hearts, and this awe would become fear and terror. Therefore, the awe deviates into fear, but it is not (awe and fear) necessary the same, if you think of it.
In the case of God you feel awe, but it does not lead to fear or terror, otherwise it makes no sense. Why would we fear ?forgiveness and grace??
2268 The devil promises you poverty and orders you to immorality, while God promises forgiveness from Him and grace. God is Encompassing, Knowledgeable.
And looking at the whole Quran where we are said constantly that He is the Merciful, would a real believer feel ?terror?? Would the One and Merciful ask us to feel ?fear? when he promises understanding and justice?
We should not. Actually the feeling for deity must be other
2165 And from among the people are some who take other than God as equals to Him, they love them as they love God; but those who believe love God more strongly.
I find this extremely interesting if you are a believer because terror overflows your heart when you think of God and this is your concept of the Merciful, then you are a believer, ok, accepted. But you are absolutely not in a next stage of faith.
Have a great day and may God bless you all sun
Read previous posts; I said we (believers) love and fear God at the same time.
Salam
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Read previous posts; I said we (believers) love and fear God at the same time.
Salam
Thank you so much for reminding me, I actually read it and other replies where fear/love are mixed or come together. I have the impression you were perfectly accepting "fear" as one of the feelings for God just as "love" should be, while I was trying to say I am not veeeeeeeery sure if "fear" is, in the final analysis. I actually wanted to outline the meaning of "awe" included in the feeling of both love/fear but not being the same, thei are their posible derivate, not the same. At least not in 3175. In the other verses were "fear" appears as a translation, other roots are used (be aware, reverence, etc.)
Excuse me if i misunderstood what you wanted to express.
peace
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watch video https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1_7Ri0hLeQ there video say deen treats fear as a form of polytheism and religion is love god not deen
u cant fear allah or love cos there no hell or heaven in quran and bible
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Fear is not in the Qur'an, what is there many times as ittaqw, To be conscious of Him, to be aware of Him. To beware tht He is Mighty, His might has no limits, and He himself does not fear antying nor there anything He can fear. So that is what it is.
If we do not intend to "cross" God, we should trust His mercy, but if we become arrogant and proud and merciless ourselves, then we should most certainly be very, very much afraid of what God can do with those arrogance and pride and mercilessness of us. Turn them against ourselves, let us feel how it is to be shown somebody's real might to harm us...
We should trust God's mercy if with our deeds we worship the Merciful, but we should indeed fear His wrath if with our deeds we worship Him by his names of power. He indeed can make for us a hell, the hell we have asked for us by bringing it into existence ourselves.
Salaam
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there no hell or heaven
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there no hell or heaven cos religion
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there no hell or heaven cos religion
What is there then?
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im deaf it just like god in religion not allah
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do u believable end of world? but i believable end of universe = last day
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me not good english but i use bsl language British Sign Language
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Im mad man coz me mental health i hearing voices
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Do you fear these voices?
Do you fear mental health?
Do you fear the end of the world/universe?
Does world = universe?Or are you happy and you love everything?
I fear GOD and love GOD. I do not fear anything else and love everything else.
GOD bless.
Peace