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We are God

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved What is the nature of God?
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    Jane
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    The following is apt I think

    The Encyclopedia of Celtic Mythology and Folklore
    By Patricia Monaghan

    "...Implicit in monotheism is dualism, in that whatever is not ?god? becomes ?not-god?; thus monotheistic religion is inclined to develop a theology that includes evil.''

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      Sonny
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      Everything you said here Jane goes against the Quran, you even reject the existance of evil. Pharaoh said that he is god and we all know how he finished ;D

      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg-55VLQw04

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        muslims
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        it is not possible. . .

        He neither begets nor is born

        Allah has not created another being from Himself
        and no other being has originated into existence from the existence of Allah

        The truth, we don't know.

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          Jane
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          Everything you said here Jane goes against the Quran, you even reject the existance of evil. Pharaoh said that he is god and we all know how he finished ;D

          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg-55VLQw04

          If you read the quote properly it was pointing out that evil can be as much a part of monotheism as other religious/philosophical thinking. Even if you have rejected polytheism, the trinity, hadith etc that does not mean you are automatically 'safe'. If you are still worshipping a god-like 'great power in the sky' persona, even if it is only one of them...I think this is still idol worship.

          And as far as I remember Pharaoh claimed the people in Egypt should worship him, he did not say he was God. He did not believe in what he saw as the one god of the Israelites - why would he claim to be something even he didn't believe in?

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            Jane
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            Some people could benefit from thinking laterally I think. Yes humans are not God and God is not human; but I mean the part of us that is not physical, our souls, our awareness is either what God is/may be/or is how God reveals himself to us - as us, I think...

            Food for thought eat When alcoholics go on their famous 12-step recovery programme, a huge part, if not their main focus, I believe, is submission to their 'Higher Self' (as they avoid the name God)...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program. It apparently has high success rates for those who stick at it and has been adopted by other groups seeking relief from addictions. What is your 'Higher Self' then? It is/may be God, I think.

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              Sonny
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              Some people could benefit from thinking laterally I think. Yes humans are not God and God is not human; but I mean the part of us that is not physical, our souls, our awareness is either what God is/may be/or is how God reveals himself to us - as us, I think...

              Food for thought eat When alcoholics go on their famous 12-step recovery programme, a huge part, if not their main focus, I believe, is submission to their 'Higher Self' (as they avoid the name God)...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program. It apparently has high success rates for those who stick at it and has been adopted by other groups seeking relief from addictions. What is your 'Higher Self' then? It is/may be God, I think.

              You should stop believing in everything you read on internet.
              I have been thinking about this years ago and I dont really believe in that. Part of you that is not physical is your soul. Your soul is your 'higher self', your mind, your awarness and consciousness. Meditation is also known as "Deep Thinking", buddhists and sufi muslims use meditation to activate their "third eye", basically what they do is looking at their "higher self", their soul, their mind, part of us that never die.
              Your soul is a software that runs in a hardware(your body), it is a creation not a Creator.

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                Sabeel_Ameer
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                Some sufis had this idea, like Abu bisthami, Al hallaaj etc. At the height of their delirium, at the state of fanaa, they have declared themselves God. They declared 'an al haq/ i am the truth ' and believed they and God had become one. Al hallaaj was later executed for saying hajj can be done spiritually from within one's own home.

                But this belief were already in hinduism which is called 'aham brahmasmi / i am the absolute God' . Nowadays the shaivite sanyasis who has this kind of beliefs usually use ganja and other drugs.

                A shock treatment might cure this.

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                  Man_of_Faith
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                  Peace Sonny,

                  Good similitude. Soul is software while our body is just (temporary) hardware on which this software is running. It works for simpler allegorical talk but not into deeper ones.

                  God bless you

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                    Ikrame
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                    We are not god we are his creation. If we were we could create it doesn t matter how spiritual you are you won t be on that level we are subjected to the law of nature

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      Peace,

                      By the leave of God we would be able to create actually. If God wanted we could wield powers much like God, but that would still be a creation of God. God can create just about anything. And if God wanted we could do things like in Star Wars. Everything is possible, nothing is impossible.

                      Now that would be a bit too unsubtle if people ran around pushing things around with the Force and could strangle their opponents with the Force unless they submitted. Too exaggerated a sign.

                      God bless you

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                        Ikrame
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                        I wouldn't mind riding a unicorn. But yeah if god wanted it would be possible.

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                          GODsubmitter
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                          I wouldn't mind riding a unicorn. But yeah if god wanted it would be possible.

                          confused

                          ???

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                            Man_of_Faith
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                            Harmony brother Godsubmitter,

                            It was merely a joke based on my post before it about "if God wanted".

                            God bless you

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                              GODsubmitter
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                              Harmony brother Godsubmitter,

                              It was merely a joke based on my post before it about "if God wanted".

                              God bless you

                              Thanx for the info.

                              Peace brother

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                                Bender
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                                And as far as I remember Pharaoh claimed the people in Egypt should worship him, he did not say he was God. He did not believe in what he saw as the one god of the Israelites - why would he claim to be something even he didn't believe in?

                                Salaam,

                                Blue He did
                                7924

                                And no we are not God we are mortals.

                                Salaam,
                                Bender

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                                  Jane
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                                  They declared 'an al haq/ i am the truth ' and believed they and God had become one...

                                  Yeah. Isn't this what we're on earth for?? pr

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                                    Jane
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                                    Salaam,

                                    Blue He did
                                    7924

                                    And no we are not God we are mortals.

                                    Salaam,
                                    Bender

                                    I don't understand arabic. If you are going to refute a point, at least have the sense - if not the courtesy, to refute it in the language the person who said it can understand.

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                                      savage_carrot
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                                      And as far as I remember Pharaoh claimed the people in Egypt should worship him, he did not say he was God.

                                      7924 He said I am your lord, the most high.

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                                        Jane
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                                        7924 He said I am your lord, the most high.

                                        Okay, thanks.

                                        Still the same point tho. We have had people declaring themselves to be Lords over the people, demanding unquestioning obedience for centuries, but it doesn't usually come with 'I, Lord X am God/the God/the creator of the universe'.

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                                          Jane
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                                          http//i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/1213244146/3rd_eye_one_consciousness_one_mind_milk_bottle.jpg?height=250&width=250&padToSquare=true

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