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    reel
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    Hi Amenuel,

    I tried hard to understand what you mean but without succes.
    Can you please explain a bit more what you mean with the red part.
    The blue part is really a wow to me, probably I am also understanding this wrong, so can you please shed also some more light on this blue part.

    thanks!!!
    Bender

    God is a universal force. Thus, God exists in everything, but this does not mean we are Gods. I have been noticing that some people from other religions get this also. I kept screenshots of two.
    https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3QMAO4fJ_tw/Voyy3v26OtI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/I81TN8XoYXc/s649-Ic42/One%252520God.png
    https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iBj-u33BtqI/VoyzAzMUBDI/AAAAAAAAAGg/tnfW9GakdhQ/s827-Ic42/one%252520god_2.png

    One of the most interesting discussions I saw at an atheist forum. The Godless members came up with the same kind conclusion. They even figured out that such a God would have the power to know what we would be doing in our future. Pretty Quranic. But later, some ignorant beings ended up diverting their attention by bringing up the human like God found in all corrupted religions.

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      Bender
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      God is a universal force. Thus, God exists in everything, but this does not mean we are Gods.

      Salaam,

      RED Sorry I can not agree with this. When I die, does a part of God also die?

      I have been noticing that some people from other religions get this also. I kept screenshots of two.
      https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3QMAO4fJ_tw/Voyy3v26OtI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/I81TN8XoYXc/s649-Ic42/One%252520God.png

      "Who created God" is in my view a stupid question. If God was created then he would be not God but a creation. God is The Creator not a creature.
      I think a lot of people tend to think of a God as creature who creates, therefore they ask themselves questions like who created God.

      https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iBj-u33BtqI/VoyzAzMUBDI/AAAAAAAAAGg/tnfW9GakdhQ/s827-Ic42/one%252520god_2.png

      I can not agree with this. The universe is a creation, Allah is not a creation. He is Allah, if He was the universe then He would be The Universe but He is Allah.
      And He can vanish The Universe and everything in it with 1 command and He will be still Allah while the universe would be gone and with 1 command He can make any/many universe(s) He likes, He does what He wills, He is Allah.

      Salaam,
      Bender

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        reel
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        RED Sorry I can not agree with this. When I die, does a part of God also die?

        Nope, because we die, we are not Gods. He lives on. He is infinity with no beginning and ending.

        "Who created God" is in my view a stupid question. If God was created then he would be not God but a creation. God is The Creator not a creature.
        I think a lot of people tend to think of a God as creature who creates, therefore they ask themselves questions like who created God.

        I know. The guy left the comment for atheists who seem to leave religions after not being able to find a flying super hero in the sky.

        I can not agree with this. The universe is a creation, Allah is not a creation. He is Allah, if He was the universe then He would be The Universe but He is Allah.
        And He can vanish The Universe and everything in it with 1 command and He will be still Allah while the universe would be gone and with 1 command He can make any/many universe(s) He likes, He does what He wills, He is Allah.

        We don't have to agree with everything he said. That piece of God thing is pretty silly. What I was trying to show here is that we pretty much know the concept of God very well. But somehow we get stuck in the mythic concept that God has body parts just like us. All mainstream religions are guilty of thinking this way. Bottom line is that God is everywhere. He is in the universe. He is outside the universe. We are within him.

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          imrankhawaja
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          with this level of knowledge which we have ,,, its even very difficult to imagine,,,what is the nature of God,,, however we cant be god,,

          and whatever we will imagine about God,,, is will just imagination nothinng else,,, and obviously our highest ever imagination will related to the matter and force or energy light,,,whatever we will imagine ,,, its definate itzjust idea ,,,running around created things,,, but he is not like his creation,,,, theres is nothing like him,,,,(112 verse 4) but what is real understanding of God ,, we need to wait for judgement day where our brains will updated to understand ,,,,

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            Man_of_Faith
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            Hello,

            We are part of the consciousness that is God. Every person makes a part of God, although it requires spiritual growth to make any significant portion of it or one is "lifeless" and part of "automation". Yet Rabb is everything in existence so Jesus was right in saying "The Father is greater than I" even though Jesus had a grand share of the Rabb in him. God encompasses everything. We have a part of God in us.

            People cannot comprehend that there is a sort of real-time symbiosis between Creator and Creation and thus make a separation of the Creator while He is one and the same at the same time yet each person is a unique character simultaneously, at least those who have made their personal consciousness grow or else they do not really exist even if they might believe so. That is the power of deception.

            Be safe
            Amenuel

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              hawk99
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              I've been called a lot of things but never God. nope

              Welcome back Bender

              peace

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                Bender
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                I've been called a lot of things but never God. nope

                Welcome back Bender

                peace

                Hi Hawk, thank you handshake

                and yes, some sayings go beyond insanity.

                salaam Bender

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                  Farabi
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                  I was once God, but I had no idea who God was. I never knew, God was father. I was the first creation ever exister. He can make any of you first. But I was the first one. I was so ashamed when I get back to Him.

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                    Man_of_Faith
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                    Rabb is always greatest, encompasses everything, but it does not mean one cannot be great and in Rabb's image. No need to belittle oneself.

                    Be safe
                    Amenuel

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                      lemke
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                      Perhaps why God makes a distinction between the left and right part of body, if you recall that God will give the record in different hands on the Judgment Day depending on where we will end up. Have you never felt an inner conflict and feeling like each part of the brain want to go in different directions?

                      Brother, I think you may like this

                      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfYbgdo8e-8

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        Brother, I think you may like this

                        https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfYbgdo8e-8

                        Thanks. It was a really old post of mine you found there.

                        However the YOU is not anywhere in that flesh, but that is what you are made to believe by Rabb who created an illusion on Earth as part of a test.

                        Be well
                        Amenuel

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                          shamsul-arefin
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                          I can relate to this discussion as after being God alone person, I have dived into a new pool of wonder and infinite awareness. When we say "God".. its produced from the mind as a character limited to personification . I find the word " Godliness " to be more accurate as it beholds all the attributes that makes it such and it is our human desire to be associated or merge with those attributes which we can remember through deep meditation. It like getting back to original identity or the true self which we forgot.

                          Either God exist or not there has to be a witness to validate it. than who is this witness ? This witness is the self which is beyond any shape or figure or thought to be identified with. It requires a deep level of observation of stillness of the self where all thoughts dissolve and infinite awareness arises.

                          I will share videos of some gurus who delt these issues...

                          ( Rupert Spira - The nature of consciousness )
                          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=20IqSqb0woc

                          ( Raman Maharishi speech )
                          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=weXKuURMgMs

                          peace

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                            Man_of_Faith
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                            God is a sense of belonging (or not belonging), but there is no more than God so either we do not exist or exist IN God. Anything else is polytheism although common Abrahamic religion calls it monotheism. Successful people are members of God, so to say, but not sole controllers but part of a grand consensus-like phenomenon. It is in the Arabic word for angel, root Melak, which means "to control/govern".

                            One must contemplate what Jesus means when he utters those words "I am in the Originator* and the Originator* is in me".

                            • Abbu would more neutrally be translated originator, it does not carry that biological birth connotation and anyone can be Abbu and so the term "Father Abraham" also came into use. The secondary connotation is namely someone who makes sure someone is reared/fostered. And that is the "mission" of God to assist with for those who find themselves.

                            Abbu is also (slightly) remotely related to the word Rabb which means "to develop" or "Developer".

                            Father is therefore a title of honor as well as description of someone's function to deserve the honor. Clearly people who are blessed by God would say God did foster them due to their (self)confidence.

                            Be well
                            Amenuel

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                              Jack
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                              https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism

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