What is your understanding of 26:79?
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Peace,
reading you is very painful...
you argue like Bani Israeel with their Prophets...
you are confused and need clarity...
it only comes by shedding the blinds that stop you from seeing the truth...
you want to see before you believe...
but you need to believe so that you can see...
I feel very sorry for your soul...
all the best
NabilNature does not manage anything. Nature runs along and does what it does best adapt.
If you run and your body gets hot, you sweat. Is it your intention to sweat? No, it is nature. Is it intention? Not really, it is a reaction which is automated in your ancient part of the brain which also contains primeval instincts.
Humans research and because we understand nature, we are able to develop medicines. If you believe that a super-natural being brings you cancer and then helps you develop a cure for that very cancer, I find that odd.
If you believe that a god is guiding nature that's fine. But I immediately ask why?
Why do you believe this?
Could you be wrong?
Do you think I should also believe this and why?I ask this because I don't know much about anything and want to understand how people rationalise their beliefs.
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Nature does not manage anything. Nature runs along and does what it does best adapt.
If you run and your body gets hot, you sweat. Is it your intention to sweat? No, it is nature. Is it intention? Not really, it is a reaction which is automated in your ancient part of the brain which also contains primeval instincts.
Humans research and because we understand nature, we are able to develop medicines. If you believe that a super-natural being brings you cancer and then helps you develop a cure for that very cancer, I find that odd.
If you believe that a god is guiding nature that's fine. But I immediately ask why?
Why do you believe this?
Could you be wrong?
Do you think I should also believe this and why?I ask this because I don't know much about anything and want to understand how people rationalise their beliefs.
i hope the prophet's story on the death of his only son may help you to understand
http//www.al-islam.org/message/56.htm
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If you believe that a god is guiding nature that's fine. But I immediately ask why?
Why do you believe this?
Could you be wrong?
Do you think I should also believe this and why?I ask this because I don't know much about anything and want to understand how people rationalise their beliefs.
Dear Stops,
What is stopping us to believe the truth?
We must understand the difference between Brain and Mind. Brain is a physical organ (materialistic) like a storage devise which always used to register our past experiences, ways & how to use, and it believes what we seen through our naked eyes. But Mind is the immaterial thing binds with our life energy which always believes the unseen which is not created yet. Minds always teach us whats our future needs & gives command to our brain.
For example, a inventor used to believe unseen which is not existing at present and he invents the thing to cater his needs once the right path is revealed to him. Till then he kept on try with his existing ways whatever registered in his brain, and New way is revealed when he come to know the existing ways are useless. We know well about Thomos Alva Edison, his need was light in darkness but he and any one didn't know the way but he believed that firmly what his Mind/heart says. After many try & tiredness but no lose in belief that he had been revealed with the wisdom of light energy to the world.
So,Science & Tech. will come to you from unseen if you believe firmly.Like this many signs we have seen in our life too.
If we are in biggest trouble when our friends & family whom we believed left us alone, we don't know how to get rid of it since there is no way up to our knowledge. But our inner feeling says ' you will be saved, let's see'. where do we see if we don't have no knowledge about it? No, because knowledge & situation will come to you if you believe, its god will.
if a person in ICU ward and tasting the pain of death even doctor left his hand, his family advise him that " don lose your hope, you will be okay". isn't seems without hope and belief we cannot live in this world? Yes obviously. Belief is the remedy for all our needs.
Super natural power of Human is, He believes the unseen. He can create whatever he needs. He can commands the nature with the leave of god. Hope, you can accept whatever we see physically is created by some one. in example, Man created the computer but nature. one almighty power should be there behind all creation where we don't have knowledge of. We cannot see that power that is how we cant see our mind & life energy.
How can we differentiate the Dead body & living body? only with the life force? Have you ever seen your life force? but we proving that when the body is in movement it holds the life energy. Like that, Every movement of nature only because of almighty power, that we named as 'god'. God guides the Nature. As we are part of nature, we have been guided by our god and we are provided with creative/commanding power since we are super natural. This is not my over-confident, because i am not believing my existing knowledge will be used for my tomorrow unseen needs. but believing on wisdom which to be revealed by god to you & me. And it is fact, happening in all our needs.
Even i am not believed the truth blindly, but pondered myself & listed my views after perceiving the wisdom of Drfazl. Any one can understand his truth if we provided with good common sense.
God created the human & He wanted us to believe him. that's why we all including you believe the unseen(God's will) without our knowledge. Am I right? Hope, you also believing the unseen that you will get rid of today problems in future.
Can any one pl. suggest me if I am wrong in my belief?
May god bless us, and elevate us in his wisdom.
Peace!
abdul
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i hope the prophet's story on the death of his only son may help you to understand
No, not one bit. We are talking about a god feeding people and providing for them and this is s story of a man losing his son and the reaction to that.
I asked 3 questions which interest me. Well, 3 and a half actually. So what does a story about the death of a son have to do with it?
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Dear Stops,
What is stopping us to believe the truth?
Theoretically nothing.
In practice prejudice, misconceptions, stubbornness, rejection, indoctrination, dogma, peer pressure, upbringing, social conventions, ignorance, etc etc etcWe must understand the difference between Brain and Mind. Brain is a physical organ (materialistic) like a storage devise which always used to register our past experiences, ways & how to use, and it believes what we seen through our naked eyes. But Mind is the immaterial thing binds with our life energy which always believes the unseen which is not created yet. Minds always teach us whats our future needs & gives command to our brain.
I agree with the physical part.
I disagree with the spiritual mumbo-jumbo like "immaterial", "life energy" and all the baggage that come with it.For example, a inventor used to believe unseen which is not existing at present and he invents the thing to cater his needs once the right path is revealed to him. Till then he kept on try with his existing ways whatever registered in his brain, and New way is revealed when he come to know the existing ways are useless. We know well about Thomos Alva Edison, his need was light in darkness but he and any one didn't know the way but he believed that firmly what his Mind/heart says. After many try & tiredness but no lose in belief that he had been revealed with the wisdom of light energy to the world.
So,Science & Tech. will come to you from unseen if you believe firmly.In a human body the heart has no means of talking. His inventions did not come from belief but work. Christians are often told 2 hands helping are worth more than 2 hands praying.
Like this many signs we have seen in our life too.
If we are in biggest trouble when our friends & family whom we believed left us alone, we don't know how to get rid of it since there is no way up to our knowledge. But our inner feeling says ' you will be saved, let's see'. where do we see if we don't have no knowledge about it? No, because knowledge & situation will come to you if you believe, its god will.
if a person in ICU ward and tasting the pain of death even doctor left his hand, his family advise him that " don lose your hope, you will be okay". isn't seems without hope and belief we cannot live in this world? Yes obviously. Belief is the remedy for all our needs.
Speak for yourself. I prefer to know the truth and not be fed some false hope.
By the way I think a person should start believing in happiness and not when pushed to it in sorrow and pain and despair - in need of false hope.
Super natural power of Human is, He believes the unseen. He can create whatever he needs. He can commands the nature with the leave of god. Hope, you can accept whatever we see physically is created by some one. in example, Man created the computer but nature. one almighty power should be there behind all creation where we don't have knowledge of. We cannot see that power that is how we cant see our mind & life energy.
No, I don't believe anything without a reason. If I don't know something, I say I don't know.
I don't say it must be a god. Why should I?
Why do you think creation of something requires power?How can we differentiate the Dead body & living body? only with the life force? Have you ever seen your life force? but we proving that when the body is in movement it holds the life energy. Like that, Every movement of nature only because of almighty power, that we named as 'god'. God guides the Nature. As we are part of nature, we have been guided by our god and we are provided with creative/commanding power since we are super natural. This is not my over-confident, because i am not believing my existing knowledge will be used for my tomorrow unseen needs. but believing on wisdom which to be revealed by god to you & me. And it is fact, happening in all our needs.
Do you have just a milligram of evidence for anything you claim? No. You have faith, nothing else. So why should I believe what you believe if you are unable to prove to me that it is the truth.
You demand faith, I demand proof, or at least evidence.Even i am not believed the truth blindly, but pondered myself & listed my views after perceiving the wisdom of Drfazl. Any one can understand his truth if we provided with good common sense.
Sorry if I disagree with you, but all you have is faith, nothing else. You may think, reflect and ponder, but it remains faith. Unless I am wrong and you can prove something.
God created the human & He wanted us to believe him. that's why we all including you believe the unseen(God's will) without our knowledge. Am I right? Hope, you also believing the unseen that you will get rid of today problems in future.
Can any one pl. suggest me if I am wrong in my belief?
May god bless us, and elevate us in his wisdom.
Peace!
abdul
You probably mean well and your way of thinking helps you in your life, so go with it and enjoy your way.
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No, not one bit. We are talking about a god feeding people and providing for them and this is s story of a man losing his son and the reaction to that.
I asked 3 questions which interest me. Well, 3 and a half actually. So what does a story about the death of a son have to do with it?
Regarding your 3 questions about why god and not nature.
Nature is an unconscious matter that can't manage or make any decision whatsoever.
also humans and all other creations don't have any power to manage its own evolution through time.Now if we speak logic then we got 2 wrongs and which is the nature that don't got the ability to think and
the creation that got no power to fix it's own evolution through time.2 wrongs never gives right as an outcome in logic.
Now which make sense to you when compared to
a super entity that gots power over everything which created the unconscious nature and the living
creations and manage and control everything in our universe.Of course it is up to you whether you want to believe what i had believed,but for me i found case 2 to be the wise
choice and case 1 to be nonsense if not even stupid one.