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Real Proof of the Grave Torture:Real or not?

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    David_Saidi
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    Salaam

    There are some missconception of punishment occured inside the buried grave soils, but actually not.

    Punishment inside the grave is just a figurative term, while the real punishment happened in the Barzakh realm
    This realm existed between this world and the Al-Akheerat world, the word "barzakh" itself literally means barrier or separation, the barrier between this word and Akheerat world.

    http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barzakh

    Sadly some Quran Alone follower don't believe it while this had been mentioned in the Quran

    "That I might do righteousness in that which I left behind." No! It is only a word he is saying; and behind them is a barrier (barzakhun) until the Day they are resurrected." (23100)

    "They say Our Lord! Twice hast Thou made us die, and twice hast Thou made us live. Now we confess our sins. Is there any way to go out?" (4011)

    Now from 4011, the God make human die and ressurected twice.Now guys you can imagine what this means....

    After the human die he will resurrected in the Barzakh realm and face judgement in there
    Then the human will die again and will be ressurected again to face the final judgement in the AL-AKheerat.

    Now I will summarize the picture

    Yes I believe if the body will started to decomposed within the hours and in some certain stages the corpse will turned into greenish especially in the upper areas (neck, head shoulder) after 24-36 hours.

    At that stage the body already stopped to produce the blood and perhaps the blood became frozen inside

    But notice the picture!!!

    (Disturbing Image) http//2.bp.blogspot.com/-OUutUtv87KE/T0kPMdsUlQI/AAAAAAAAAJY/XkZKmL5nMUg/s320/siksa+kubur.jpg
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVxdjmfl8A

    • The corpse still bleeding and it's least impossible if he been buried in the state like that

    • Second notice the eyes and ask the forensic experts for how can the eyes became destroyed like that with bruishes surrounding on it.
      It's like it been beaten by hard material.

    • Also notice the nose is not normally straight maybe the result of beating.

    There are another proofs of this punishment

    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4NEFQK7DEk
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuTOAjJ5dy8
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-XCCxT7zjM

    This is my opinion based on some facts and references.You believe it or not it's up to you

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      hafeez_kazi
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      Peace all

      Before believing anything first confirm the authencity of the news. In the news there is only mention of of a boy (no name of the boy or family) then you find Oman which is a vast country and have cities, towns and villages for example Muttrah, Ruwi, Muscat, Nizwa, Sur, Sohar, Barka, Salalah, and many others. In the report there is no mention of any city, town or village but only OMAN.

      Secondly there is no name of the hospital which diagonised the cause of the death of the boy.

      Why there is no name of the BOY and the FAMILY?

      Why there is no mention of the name of the Hospital?

      Why there is no mention of the family's RESIDENCE?

      If you see the picture you will find that he is lying on an IRON BED in a place which has walls and this cannot be a GRAVE. Did the family take back the body back to the hospital for rediagonising the cause of the death?

      The clothes which remains on his person indicates that he is wearing an underwear. On the shoulder side you can see clear design on the cloth which indicates that he was not wrapped in ordinary cotton cloth. there are two black marks which indictaes that they are buttons.

      I am an Indian and a resident of Oman since October 1985 working in "Oman Insurance Services" located at Muttrah al Kubra and resideing at Muttrah and I have never heard such nonsense story. Moreover no one can challenge the hospital's report and in Oman it is next to impossible to challenge.

      The pro hadithers want to prove that there is torture in the grave so they fabricate such false stories and the maximum who are not aware of the Quran fall prey to such news.

      Thanks

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        Sabeel_Ameer
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        We take religion from Quran, not from hospital records and photographs.

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          hafeez_kazi
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          Peace all

          Every soul shall have a taste of death And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense.............. 385

          The punishment in the GRAVE contradicts the statement of Allah that recompensation will be paid after RESURRECTION that means second life.

          Punishment in the grave means three LIFE whereas the Quran says only TWO LIFE, THE PRESENT LIFE AND THE LIFE AFTER RESURRECTION. THERE IS NO THIRD LIFE.

          Thnks

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            Birdy
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            Peace with you all sun

            may be he was buried and wasn't really dead. So he awoken in the grave and tried to get out? It happens, but it isn't funny ..((

            Peace.

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              mmkhan
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              Salaam,

              After looking at the photo, I was wondering how his ribs were not broken when bones of his hands and legs does? hmm
              To me it is only a hoax.

              May Allah protect us from making such lies on Him pr
              mmKhan

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                David_Saidi
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                Ok thanks for the evidences guys,
                Yes I already aware from the start if you guys will see it as hoax since it caming from nowhere,

                But I want to ask something

                "That I might do righteousness in that which I left behind." No! It is only a word he is saying; and behind them is a barrier (barzakhun) until the Day they are resurrected." (23100)

                What is the "barzakh" in this ayat??

                Salaam

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                  reel
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                  Ugh, there is again a need for rumor mill to prove rumors about the Prophet as authentic?

                  Pictures of the boy taken from
                  http//poetry.rotten.com/blonde/0002/

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    i think its hoax, cant be real

                    and about barzakh (barrier) is a state where the connection of spirit/character is terminated from this life span untill the day of jugdement.. body is just a waste after the death.

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                      The_Guided_One
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                      If we have 2 lives, than i understand, we get life on earth and die and than we are resurrected and have another life.

                      About dying i do not understand, if we die and we go in our grave, when is the second time we die? Because the people will have eternal life in heaven, that is what Allah says many times in Quran, i think it is mentioned most often of all things.

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