[ask] Ruwakh Hakodesh/Ruhul Qudus/Holy Spirit in the Quran?
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The meaning of "Follow Allah and follow Rasul " is follow Allah and the rasuls He has sent down upon your heart Jibril, Ruhul Quddus and Mikhail, the Ruhul Amin, the two different individuals with two different jobs for the mankind. One delivers the scripture of God while the other reveals of it as message of Guidance to conduct you in the straight path in this world through future which alone is the root of Faith one possesses in the heart as basis of TRUTH and TRUST.
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Allah has chosen from among the Malayika and from among men as His messengers for us. Because He is Hearing us and Seeing us.If the human messengers have become extinct as per Sunni, then there are the messengers from among the malayikat who they shall know as clearly as their own folks and follow them in the path of Islam. These Malayika are there for men as messengers to guide them and warn them with admonitions until one dies and until the end of the world. We followers of peaceful path shall know if we do not follow the messengers from the malayikat we cease to be on the straight path of Allah.
Remember and ponder the verses of Allah as and when Jibril, Ruhul Quddus, brings to your memory from whatever you have recited of Quran. And as you ponder it is Ruhul Amin, Mikhail who REVEALS, unfolds the practical guidance of IT by the leave of Allah. This is revelation, practical application from the inspired scripture, from the verses of Quran.
If you read 26192 & 193, " Ruhul Amin brought IT down revealing from Allah to the people of Shuaib that part of inspirational verse of Quran, "Believe in Allah and do right things so that you will enter heaven". The practical guidance i.e. the revelation of IT is from 26177 to 184, wherein is the clear part and revelation of Quran; and in Quran there are those inspired verses by Jibril, Ruhul Quddus, having multiple hidden meanings 37, which Allah alone knows. He Reveals IT through Ruhul Amin, Mikhail, as in this example 26177 to 184, and as and when the situation demands for Guidance.
"Follow Allah and Follow Rasul". As far as Sunnis are concerned the human prophet is dead and long gone; the real testing time for them is this. Now you shall follow the chosen messengers from among the Malayika as your real time messengers who shall be there with you as long as the human race survives and until the end of the world.
Fazlur Rahman
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Mr Fazl you may re-read again this article
http//free-minds.org/messengers-and-prophetsYes in 2275, Malaikat and humans can became a Rasul/Mesengger.
From that article, the meaning of Rasuls is the one who received the Scripture and spreading It to the others.Gabriel is messenger too, because he ordered to delivered Scripture to other (Muhammad etc).Then Nabi Muhammad appointed as Rasul too because he must spreading the QUran to his people.
What is the meaining of "follow Malayka"? it's not we follow the Malaykats themself since we never met them, what we must follow is what they bring to us via human Rasuls (Muhammad).This means if we following Quran, this means we follow the Malaykat too.
2219 "Our Lord, and send among them a messenger from among themselves"
Why Jibril and Mikhael are two separate entity?
I already posted the verse to you,298 or and Gabriel, and Mikael.
Look Gabriel and Mikhael are written separately, this means that two is different entity. -
The meaning of "Follow Allah and follow Rasul " is follow Allah and the rasuls He has sent down upon your heart Jibril, Ruhul Quddus and Mikhail, the Ruhul Amin, the two different individuals with two different jobs for the mankind. One delivers the scripture of God while the other reveals of it as message of Guidance to conduct you in the straight path in this world through future which alone is the root of Faith one possesses in the heart as basis of TRUTH and TRUST.
2275
Allah has chosen from among the Malayika and from among men as His messengers for us. Because He is Hearing us and Seeing us.If the human messengers have become extinct as per Sunni, then there are the messengers from among the malayikat who they shall know as clearly as their own folks and follow them in the path of Islam. These Malayika are there for men as messengers to guide them and warn them with admonitions until one dies and until the end of the world. We followers of peaceful path shall know if we do not follow the messengers from the malayikat we cease to be on the straight path of Allah.
Remember and ponder the verses of Allah as and when Jibril, Ruhul Quddus, brings to your memory from whatever you have recited of Quran. And as you ponder it is Ruhul Amin, Mikhail who REVEALS, unfolds the practical guidance of IT by the leave of Allah. This is revelation, practical application from the inspired scripture, from the verses of Quran.
If you read 26192 & 193, " Ruhul Amin brought IT down revealing from Allah to the people of Shuaib that part of inspirational verse of Quran, "Believe in Allah and do right things so that you will enter heaven". The practical guidance i.e. the revelation of IT is from 26177 to 184, wherein is the clear part and revelation of Quran; and in Quran there are those inspired verses by Jibril, Ruhul Quddus, having multiple hidden meanings 37, which Allah alone knows. He Reveals IT through Ruhul Amin, Mikhail, as in this example 26177 to 184, and as and when the situation demands for Guidance.
"Follow Allah and Follow Rasul". As far as Sunnis are concerned the human prophet is dead and long gone; the real testing time for them is this. Now you shall follow the chosen messengers from among the Malayika as your real time messengers who shall be there with you as long as the human race survives and until the end of the world.
Fazlur Rahman
Dear Drfazl,
We are blessed and lucky enough in this era by Gods Blessings. The God, Quran, Malaika,Prophets, hereafter and explanations is new and more truthful every moment. Like Clouds. We can not see the same cloud again still its beautiful . May be next moment if you write...it will be better than since its revealed to you through Malaika Jibreil under the Guidance of Allah the most Pureful and watcful and we read we come pleasureful.
Allahs blessings on you. Many around the world keep inspiring by Quran..All the praise to the Lord who created and guided you and blessed with Quran and the same to us.Oh Lord Make us prepare and ready to receive the blessings from you.
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Peace Earthdom,
I thought you would speak of your original understanding of Quran. You lead me to somewhere else with a link. If the author of your link is original thinker, then it should be between him and me; not between you and me. From the way you explain the content of the article, I do not think the author is complete in his explaining things for he has not said a single line on Malayika. Anyway I am open to him to exchange view points, if he is ever exposed to me. If the author of the article only knows that Jibril chosen as the prophet and Mikhail chosen as the messenger from among the Malayika for the people of the worlds! Allah is Great! All glory be to Him.
Salam
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Peace drFazl
I pointing out that link because that link has same idea with me.I still speak with my own understanding in Quran.That link just a support not my primary bases.My bases is my own research.So this discussion still between you and me.
But then why you always pointing Mikhail, since we don't know Mikhalil'sbackground and Michael's name only appeared in verse 298.
Why you never pointing Malaykat al Maut instead Mikhail?Btw thanks to discuss with me.Keep healthy and keep on straight path.
Salaam
Tegar Hutama -
Peace be with you, drfazl.
You say
The meaning of "Follow Allah and follow Rasul " is follow Allah and the rasuls He has sent down upon your heart Jibril, Ruhul Quddus and Mikhail, the Ruhul Amin, the two different individuals with two different jobs for the mankind. One delivers the scripture of God while the other reveals of it as message of Guidance to conduct you in the straight path in this world through future which alone is the root of Faith one possesses in the heart as basis of TRUTH and TRUST.
Red Highlighted by me for emphasis.
Where is your proof for such claims? Please refer me to Quranic verses for such claims as your evidence.
Say Whoever is the enemy to Gabriel (Jibril) - for indeed he revealed it / brought it (nazzala) to your
heart (AAala qalbika) by God's permission, confirming that which is before it (co-existent) and a guidance and glad tidings
for the believers. (297)And indeed, it surely is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds. The Faithful / Trustworthy Spirit (Ruh al-ameen) has revealed it / brought it (nazala) upon your heart (AAala qalbika) that you may be of the warners. In plain / clear Arabic language. (26192-195)
The above two verses are synonymous regarding the Spirit. They both have brought the revelations (nazzala) upon the heart (AAala qalbika) of the Prophet. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that they are the same Spirit, and not two different Spirits.
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Salam brother
Tegar Hutama, nice name indeed!Why you never pointing Malaykat al Maut instead Mikhail?
Because I want to live before I die.
But then why you always pointing Mikhail, since we don't know Mikhalil's background and Michael's name only appeared in verse 298.
We have to believe in Malayika as a believer and we should take every care not to become an enemy to both these Malayika by any means for if we are, then Allah says, " I would be your enemy!" So enough of research if you get nowhere; turn to Allah and seek from Him "O Allah increase me in my Wisdom!" And you know well Allah's saying 'None shall inform you like the One Who knows All'. We shall not dismiss any single ayat just because we fail to understand it. Jibril, and Mikhail would reveal themselves before you by the leave of Allah as the angels, revealed themselves before Zakariah, Maryam, Ibrahim, Lut and so on.
Btw thanks to discuss with me.Keep healthy and keep on straight path.
Welcome brother Tegar Hutama
Salaam
fazlur rahman -
Salam Scribbler,
You wrote
Where is your proof for such claims? Please refer me to Quranic verses for such claims as your evidence.Are the verses wherever there is mention of the two Malayika in Quran not proof enough? Only thing is that you should know who is who. And but for Allah who else is well aware them? Have you ever turned to Allah seeking from Him who they are? Why have you not asked from Him? Do not you have interest to speak to Malayika or to keep constant company with them?
Do not you want to make friends with them by proclaiming to the world "Only Allah; and Allah alone is sufficient for you for your entire life!" 4030, 31. Had you proclaimed thus, Malayika would have descended on your premises by the leave of Allah, saying Have the promised heaven on this earth itself! We are companions unto you both in this world, and in the world next!"
You wrote
Say Whoever is the enemy to Gabriel (Jibril) - for indeed he revealed it / brought it (nazzala) to your heart (AAala qalbika) by God's permission, confirming that which is before it (co-existent) and a guidance and glad tidings
for the believers. (297)And indeed, it surely is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds. The Faithful / Trustworthy Spirit (Ruh al-ameen) has revealed it / brought it (nazala) upon your heart (AAala qalbika) that you may be of the warners. In plain / clear Arabic language. (26192-195)
The above two verses are synonymous regarding the Spirit. They both have brought the revelations (nazzala) upon the heart (AAala qalbika) of the Prophet. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that they are the same Spirit, and not two different Spirits.
I think it would be pertinent not to answer the above in italics and underlined part of your query, until such time you could get a glimpse of the Malayika, by the leave of Allah.
May Allah Bless You With Insight
To have the glimpse.Peace,
fazl -
Salam Scribbler,
You wrote
Where is your proof for such claims? Please refer me to Quranic verses for such claims as your evidence.Are the verses wherever there is mention of the two Malayika in Quran not proof enough? Only thing is that you should know who is who. And but for Allah who else is well aware them? Have you ever turned to Allah seeking from Him who they are? Why have you not asked from Him? Do not you have interest to speak to Malayika or to keep constant company with them?
Do not you want to make friends with them by proclaiming to the world "Only Allah; and Allah alone is sufficient for you for your entire life!" 4030, 31. Had you proclaimed thus, Malayika would have descended on your premises by the leave of Allah, saying Have the promised heaven on this earth itself! We are companions unto you both in this world, and in the world next!"
You wrote
Say Whoever is the enemy to Gabriel (Jibril) - for indeed he revealed it / brought it (nazzala) to your heart (AAala qalbika) by God's permission, confirming that which is before it (co-existent) and a guidance and glad tidings
for the believers. (297)And indeed, it surely is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds. The Faithful / Trustworthy Spirit (Ruh al-ameen) has revealed it / brought it (nazala) upon your heart (AAala qalbika) that you may be of the warners. In plain / clear Arabic language. (26192-195)
The above two verses are synonymous regarding the Spirit. They both have brought the revelations (nazzala) upon the heart (AAala qalbika) of the Prophet. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that they are the same Spirit, and not two different Spirits.
I think it would be pertinent not to answer the above in italics and underlined part of your query, until such time you could get a glimpse of the Malayika, by the leave of Allah.
May Allah Bless You With Insight
To have the glimpse.Peace,
fazlThanks for your words, sir.
May Allah guide us all to His straight path. )
Peace. peace
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Salam Scribbler,
You wrote
Where is your proof for such claims? Please refer me to Quranic verses for such claims as your evidence.Are the verses wherever there is mention of the two Malayika in Quran not proof enough? Only thing is that you should know who is who. And but for Allah who else is well aware them? Have you ever turned to Allah seeking from Him who they are? Why have you not asked from Him? Do not you have interest to speak to Malayika or to keep constant company with them?
Do not you want to make friends with them by proclaiming to the world "Only Allah; and Allah alone is sufficient for you for your entire life!" 4030, 31. Had you proclaimed thus, Malayika would have descended on your premises by the leave of Allah, saying Have the promised heaven on this earth itself! We are companions unto you both in this world, and in the world next!"
You wrote
Say Whoever is the enemy to Gabriel (Jibril) - for indeed he revealed it / brought it (nazzala) to your heart (AAala qalbika) by God's permission, confirming that which is before it (co-existent) and a guidance and glad tidings
for the believers. (297)And indeed, it surely is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds. The Faithful / Trustworthy Spirit (Ruh al-ameen) has revealed it / brought it (nazala) upon your heart (AAala qalbika) that you may be of the warners. In plain / clear Arabic language. (26192-195)
The above two verses are synonymous regarding the Spirit. They both have brought the revelations (nazzala) upon the heart (AAala qalbika) of the Prophet. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that they are the same Spirit, and not two different Spirits.
I think it would be pertinent not to answer the above in italics and underlined part of your query, until such time you could get a glimpse of the Malayika, by the leave of Allah.
May Allah Bless You With Insight
To have the glimpse.Peace,
fazlThanks for explaining 4130 & 31