Nearness and Guidance -> Knowledge and Wisdom = Peace and Prosperity

diamantinehoneybunch

Peace Man of Faith,

Sorry if you think I am just intruding here but I'd like to say thanks for this wonderful thread. To be honest I have never read the contents in this thread even though I have noticed the title of this thread but since a few weeks ago I think I am interested to learn from this thread D

May God bless you pr

Man_of_Faith

Peace Yuliana,

No worries, thank the Lord for enlightening me.

I understand that my thread can be a heavy reading, but I have tried recently to improve the layout of the posts that they are easier to evaluate and link the information to my commentary. I did not really intend to ever explain The Book, but I felt I had to load a heavier caliber in my gun so as to prove more intricately that the Message is simple by together with the prospective readers analyze and see the discourse from a fluent and linguistic point of view. And you have seen that no translations made sense in some verses before I experimented on the words and their meaning, and I did not invent a new meaning on most words, but only scattered the words into morphemes, roots, and then reattempted the deciphering.

Only words that I was really daring was on ketaab and qur'an, where I have without real evidence changed their meaning, but that because they simply do not suit the contexts they are in. They must be mistakes by those who have been reading The Book over the centuries. So I still stand by from a fluency of text point of view that ketaab is message and qur'an is plainly book. It is basically not so hard to understand that quran is book however.

Anyway, it is to proclaim the simple Message underneath all the things man has made complicated about God, such as salat. You saw that the salat is to channel information and a tie to God. Wakas found its basic meaning and it is no more than that. Its root word is even used in a context of daily Arabic communication. Believe and be mindful of God and do good deeds, that is what God has prescribed for us.

EDIT The thread's original purpose was to link The Book to a more graphical and streamlined way of perceiving it and you saw my circular diagram if you looked earlier in the thread. But I took the liberty to proving my stance of the Message's simplicity by going through all the relevant portions of The Book to show I am right without trying to be arrogant. I only try to serve the Lord and I could keep all this to myself and tell no one, but I see it as part of my charity. It is not like I gain anything except from the Lord, and, God willing, you benefit from it in the meantime.

God bless you

Man_of_Faith

Chapter 12 Message check

121 ALR, these are the signs of the clarifying Message.
122 We have sent it down an Arabic book, perhaps you will comprehend.
123 We tell to you the best stories through what We have inspired to you in this Book; and before it you were of those who were unaware.

128 For they said ?Joseph and his brother are more loved by our father than us, while we are a numerous group. Our father is clearly misguided.?

1221 And he from Egypt who had bought him said to his wife ?Make his stay generous, perhaps he will benefit us or we may take him as a son.? And it was thus that We established Joseph in the land and to teach him the interpretation of the narrations. And God has full control over his situation, but most of the people do not know.
1222 And when he reached his independence, We gave him judgement and knowledge. It is thus that We reward the good doers.

Red Obviously what Joseph did was right in the "eyes of God".

1250 And the king said ?Bring him to me.? So when the messenger came to him, he said ?Go back to your lord and ask him what was the matter regarding the women who cut their hands? Indeed, my Lord is aware of their plans.?
1251 He said ?What is your plea that you tried to seduce Joseph from himself?? They said ?God be sought! We know of no evil on his part.? The wife of the governor said ?Now the truth must be known, I did seek (-2) to seduce Joseph from himself and he is of the truthful ones.?
1252 ?That is so he knows that I will not betray him while he is not present and that God does not guide the planning of the betrayers.?
1253 ?And I do not make myself free of blame, for the soul is inclined to sin, except that which my Lord has mercy upon. My Lord is Forgiving, Merciful.?

Red What is the Message here if you are Truthful?

1256 And it was such that We gave Joseph authority in the land, to travel in it as he pleases. We bestow Our mercy upon whom We please, and We do not waste the reward of the (2) good doers.
1257 And the reward of the Hereafter is better for those who (1) believe and are aware.

1267 And he said ?My sons, do not enter from one gate, but enter from separate gates; and I cannot avail you anything against God, for the judgment is to God. In Him I place my trust, and in Him those who place their trust should trust.?
1268 And when they entered from where their father had commanded them, it would not have availed them in the least against God, but it was out of a concern in the soul of Jacob that he brought out. And he is with knowledge for what We taught him, but most of the people do not know.
1269 And when they entered upon Joseph, he called his brother to himself and said ?I am your brother, so do not be saddened by what they have done.?

Red It is obvious that Jacob suspected that it was Joseph that was there in Egypt because clearly the reason he told them to enter through separate gates was that Joseph could get hold on his brother without the others knowing.

1284 And he turned away from them and said ?Oh, my sorrow over Joseph.? And his eyes turned white from sadness, and he became blind.
1285 They said ?By God, you will never cease to remember Joseph until you become senile or become dead!?
1286 He said ?I merely complain my grief and sorrow to God, and (3) I know from God what you do not know.?
1287 ?My sons, go and inquire about Joseph and his brother, and do not despair from the spirit of God. The only ones who would despair from the spirit of God are the people who are rejecters.?

1289 He said ?Do you know what you have done with (-2) Joseph and his brother, while you were ignorant??

Red It is obvious that there is more to the story than only in the narration of The Book.

1292 He said ?There is no blame on you this day, may God forgive you, and He is the Most Merciful of those who show mercy.?
1293 ?Take this shirt of mine and cast it over the face of my father, and he will have sight; and bring to me all your family.?

Red Sometimes the narrations are a bit strange but also a test of Faith.
Blue Joseph forgave rather than punished even if he could easily have punished them harshly for all that they had done thanks to his position. It is simply following the Message.

1294 And when the caravan departed, their father said ?I do indeed feel the scent of Joseph, except that you may think me senile.?
1295 They said ?By God, you are back to your old misguidance.?
1296 Then, when the bearer of good news came, he cast it over his face and he regained sight. He said ?Did I not tell you that I know from God what you do not know??

Red There is indeed some subtle humor in God's narrations, although only faint, that God brought in exactly what Jacob uttered in his household.

1297 They said ?Our father, ask forgiveness for our sins, indeed we were wrongdoers.?
1298 He said ?I will ask forgiveness for you from my Lord, He is the Forgiving, the Merciful.?

Red These were really righteous people.

12100 And he raised his parents upon the throne, and they fell in prostration to Him. And he said ?My father, this is the interpretation of my vision from before. My Lord has made it true, and He has been good to me that he took me out of prison and brought you out of the wilderness (-2) after the devil had made bitterness between me and my brothers. My Lord is Kind to whom He wills. He is the Knowledgeable, the Wise.?

Red It explains a lot, does it not?

12101 ?My Lord, You have given me sovereignty and taught me the interpretation of the narrations. Initiator of the heavens and the earth, You are my protector in this world and the Hereafter. Let me die as one who has (1) submitted, and join me with the (2) good doers.?

12102 That is from the news of the unseen that We inspire to you. You were not among them when they arranged their plan and were scheming.
12103 And most of the people, even if you are diligent, (-1) will not believe.
12104 And you are not asking them for any wage, it is but a reminder to the worlds.
12105 And how many a sign in the heavens and the earth do they pass by, while they are turning away from it.
12106 And most of them will (-1) not believe in God except while setting up partners.

12109 And We have not sent before you except men, to whom We gave inspiration, from the people of the towns. Will they not roam the earth and see how was the punishment of those before them? And the abode of the Hereafter is far better for those who are aware. Do you not comprehend?

Red That is right. The Messengers were blessed men with who rose in rank and because of their staunch Faith were chosen ones. God chooses whom He pleases from among His servants to deliver His revelations. It could be you, it could be me, if we happened to reach far on the Faith scale. No reason to treat our Messengers as kings. I would never want to be called lord if I was a Messenger, but that every pious Believer would focus on the Lord above, the One, the Most Magnificent.

12110 Then, when the messengers gave up, and they thought that they have been denied, Our victory came to them. We then save whom We wish, and Our punishment cannot be swayed from the wicked people.
12111 In their stories is a lesson for those who possess intelligence. It is not a narration that has been invented, but an authentication of what is between his hands and a detailing of all things, and (3) a guidance and a mercy for a people (1) who believe.

Red And the Messengers were not supermen; they could lose self-confidence but what separated them was that they would never lose Faith in God.
Blue And certainly there is a reason why a big part of The Book contains of stories of the Messengers of old that we may learn from the events of all kind of moral issues, such as the one about Joseph and his brothers.

What do you think the Message was? Well here comes a hint again (and you can see what my numbers (1), (2) and (3) stand for)

| http//farm6.staticflickr.com/5546/10816793444_18c10caea7.jpg
| What my (1), (2) and (3) generally refers to in previous and future posts unless otherwise told

• Belief in God/Faith

• Righteousness/Actions

• Belief in Realm/Faith

God bless you

Man_of_Faith

Chapter 13 Message check

131 ALMR, these are the signs of the Message. And what has been sent down to you from your Lord is the truth; but most of the people (-1) do not believe.

136 And they hasten towards you with (-2) evil before good, and the examples of those before them have already been given. And your Lord is with forgiveness towards the people for their transgression, and your Lord is severe in retribution.

1315 And to God will submit all who are in the heavens and the earth, willingly and unwillingly, as do their shadows in the morning and the evening.

It does not make sense with this verse as prostrate. The verse means more that everything is obeying His will, willingly or unwillingly, if God wills something and it has to follow His system, including the laws of nature and such.

The chapter is demonstrating the power of God and why it is illogical not to believe in God. The language used fits a civilization 1400 years ago and might not always impress the reader nowadays although it is true regardless. The allegories God uses here are often abused by atheists to falsify The Book.

The righteous believe, keep the bond and do good

1320 Those who fulfill the pledge of God, and they do not break the covenant.
1321 And those who (2) deliver what God has ordered to be delivered, and they are concerned towards their Lord and they fear a terrible reckoning.
1322 And those who are patient seeking the face of their Lord; and they hold the (1) Communion, and they (2) spend from what We have bestowed upon them secretly and openly, and they (2) counter evil with good; these will have an excellent abode.
1323 The gardens of delight; which they will enter (2) with those who are good doers from their fathers and their mates and their progeny. And the angels will enter upon them from every gate.
1324 ?Peace be upon you for what you have been patient for. Excellent indeed is the final abode.?

While those who are unrighteous only spread mischief

1325 As for those who break their pledge with God after having made its covenant, and they (-2) withhold what God has ordered to be delivered, and they (-2) cause corruption on the earth; upon those is a curse and they will have a miserable abode.
1326 God gives the provisions for whom He wishes, and He is Capable. And they (-3) were happy with the worldly life, but the worldly life compared to the Hereafter is nothing except a brief enjoyment.
1327 And those who have rejected say ?If only a sign were sent down to him from his Lord!? Say ?God misguides whom He wishes and guides to Him whoever is repenting.

1329 The ones who have (1) believed, and have (2) done good works, there will be happiness for them and a wonderful abode.

1330 Thus, We have sent you to a nation, as with other nations before it, so that you may tell them that which has been inspired to you; while they are still rejecting the Almighty. Say ?He is my Lord, there is no god except He, in Him I place my trust and to Him is my repentance.?

1336 And those to whom We have previously given the Message rejoice at what has been sent down to you, but there are some from the Confederates who reject parts of it. Say ?I am only ordered to (1) serve God and not set up any partner with Him. Towards Him I implore and towards Him is the return.?
1337 And as such, We have sent it down a law which is in Arabic. And if you follow their desires after what has come to you of the Knowledge, then you will not have any ally or defender against God.
1338 And We have sent messengers before you and We have made for them mates and offspring. It was not for a messenger to come with any sign except with the permission of God; for each period there is a Message.
1339 God erases and confirms what He wishes, and with Him is the source of the Message.

1343 And those who reject say ?You are not a messenger.? Say ?God is enough as a witness between me and you; the One who has the knowledge of the Message.?

God bless you

Man_of_Faith

Chapter 14 Message check

141 ALR, a Message which We have sent down to you so that you may bring the people out of the darkness and into the Light with the permission of their Lord, to the Path of the Noble, the Praiseworthy.

144 And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify for them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the Wise

Red It is thus strange that we use Arabic when God has promised the Messengers speaking the language of his people. This phrase ought to question the obsession with Arabic and its importance for the Message, and that it just happened that these people got their presentation of the Message in this language in the 7th century.

145 And We sent Moses with Our signs ?You shall bring your people out of the darkness and into the light, and remind them of the days of God.? In this are signs for everyone patient and thankful.
146 And Moses said to his people ?Remember the blessings of God upon you that He saved you from the people of Pharaoh; they were afflicting you with the worst punishment, and they used to slaughter your children, and rape your women. And in that was a great test from your Lord.?

In all the happenings occurring with the Messengers presence here on Earth it is primarily to remember what God did for you and not the Messengers who channeled God's words. Despite this the Messengers tend to have exaggerated importance and idolization to their name.

147 And your Lord proclaimed ?If you give thanks, I will increase for you, but if you are rejecting, then My retribution is severe.?

This ought to be what rejecting God is; to not give appreciation and remain completely heedless of Him no matter if you have Knowledge or not. We ought to keep in mind what God's definition of rejection is. Often it seems that you can know that God exists but you "forget" about Him, lose focus.

149 Did not news come to you of those before you the people of Noah, and ?Aad, and Thamud, and those after them whom none know except God? Their messengers came to them with clarity, but they placed their hands onto their mouths and said ?We are rejecting what you have been sent with, and we are in doubt as to what you are inviting us to.?
1410 Their messengers said ?Is there doubt regarding God, the initiator of the heavens and the earth? He invites you so that He may forgive some of your sins, and delay you to an appointed term.? They said ?You are merely human beings like us; you wish to turn us away from what our fathers used to serve. So come to us with a clear proof.?
1411 Their messengers said ?We are indeed human beings like you, but God will bestow His grace upon whom He pleases from His servants. And it is not up to us to bring you proof except with the permission of God. And in God the believers should place their trust?
1412 ?And why should we not place our trust in God, when He has guided us in our paths. And we will be patient to the harm you inflict upon us. And in God those who trust should place their trust.?
1413 And those who rejected said to their messengers ?We will expel you from our land, or you will return to our creed.? It was then that their Lord inspired to them ?We will destroy the wicked.?

The Messengers practically preached the same Message in this summary by God and so did Muhammad and Jesus. No more no less.

The losers

1421 And they appeared before God, all of them. And the weak ones said to those who were arrogant ?We were following you, so will you avail us anything from the retribution of God?? They said ?If God had guided us, then we would have guided you. It makes no difference if we cry out or are patient, for we have no refuge.?
1422 And the devil said when the matter was complete ?God had promised you the promise of truth, and I promised you and broke my promise. And I had no power over you except that I invited you and you responded to me. So do not blame me, but blame yourselves; I cannot help you nor can you help me. I reject that you have set me up as a partner before this; the wicked will have a painful retribution.?

Green They foolishly followed their spiritual leaders when they uttered complete nonsense which had no basis in the Message and prohibitions never authorized by God.
Blue The devil is an invisible but powerful deceiver and is most efficient when humans distance themselves to God and thus loses His protection, and when we give in to our lusts.

But the righteous Believers were these (who mainly upheld these criteria)

1423 And those who (1) believed and did (2) good works were admitted to estates with rivers flowing beneath them. In them they will abide with the permission of their Lord. Their greeting therein is ?Peace.?

It is incredible how many times God repeats this phrase throughout The Book and people still complicate the Message.

1424 Have you not seen how God puts forth the example that a good word is like a good tree, whose root is firm and whose branches are in the sky.
1425 It bears its fruit every so often with the permission of its Lord; and God puts forth the examples for the people, perhaps they will remember.

Red This analogy is very good to prove the (1), (2) and (3) theory if one understands what God means.

1427 God makes firm those who believe with firm sayings in the worldly life, and in the Hereafter. And God misguides the wicked, and God does what He wishes.
1428 Did you not see those who replaced the blessings of God with rejection, and they caused their people to dwell in the abode of destruction?

If one does not believe and indulges in bad actions constantly then God will even misguide people Himself. Certain groups come to mind immediately.

1431 Say to My servants who (1) believe, that they should hold the Communion, and (2) spend from what provisions We granted them secretly and openly, before a Day comes when there is no trade therein, nor will there be any friends.

1435 And Abraham said ?My Lord, make this a land of peace, and keep me and my sons away from serving statues.?

The Message shines through here perfectly right in front of your very eyes who have probably read this phrase many times.

1439 ?Praise be to God who has granted me to my old age Ishmael and Isaac; my Lord is Hearer of the prayer.?
1440 ?My Lord, let me hold the Communion, and also from my progeny. Our Lord, and accept my prayer.?

Purpose of Communion, to implore God for the things we need.

The Message is really simple, is it not?

God bless you

sushi1992