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    unknownuser
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    Who am I to Promote... ALLAH is doing HIS Acts....No one can Question ALLAH. ALLAH does What ALLAH WISH...

    It's not like this Jango.
    I already seen your posts in many threads, I always get little laugh after reading your post.

    You always post something like this

    "Ooo drfazl your post always give me power day by day"

    or something like

    "Dear Drfazl,
    We are blessed and lucky enough in this era by Gods Blessings. The God, Quran, Malaika,Prophets, hereafter and explanations is new and more truthful every moment."

    This is what I mean bro/sis )

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      Man_of_Faith
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      Peace,

      You talk about 1096 and complain about RK's translation of deen into religion. While not entirely an accurate choice, it is not utterly wrong. Some contemporary people translate it as 'system'.

      God bless you

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        unknownuser
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        Some contemporary people translate it as 'system'.

        It's because deen cannot simply translated in to "religion" because "religion" is manmade.

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          Jango
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          It's not like this Jango.
          I already seen your posts in many threads, I always get little laugh after reading your post.

          You always post something like this

          "Ooo drfazl your post always give me power day by day"

          or something like

          "Dear Drfazl,
          We are blessed and lucky enough in this era by Gods Blessings. The God, Quran, Malaika,Prophets, hereafter and explanations is new and more truthful every moment."

          This is what I mean bro/sis

          Instead wasting time in reading my posts..its of no use. Read his 1000 + posts and get back to me. Where I praise the LORD...Do not add your Imagination.. GOD is keenly watching... The someting is ur imagination...GOD Bless you. If you are blessed with wisdom.. then again I too Praise the Lord for the Blessings given to Earthdom... But I wish better change to Skydom...All our needs are from the Sky

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            unknownuser
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            Jango I know what you feel, you may struggle to protecting your teacher, Mr Fazlur Rahmaan.

            The proof is you even still defending his arguments, while you may already know if his arguments is outside the topic we discussed.

            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605322.0

            Still remember this thread? This thread is talking about politic, but unfortunately Mr Fazlur posting something which very misslead the topic (even his post is reasonable).
            So thats why @Shirley mocking him in that thread, maybe shirley's post is little bit unfriendly but true.

            It's not professional if we talking about politic then we use arguments outside politic.

            By saying this, I'm never mocking Mr Fazlur instead I still respect him as "Master of Accupunctur".My knowledge is nothing if it compare to him.

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              hawk99
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              Peace drfazl,

              What exactly is your line of work, are you a medical doctor, an orthopedist, optometrist,
              what is your profession.

              O0

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                wrkmmn
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                Peace

                I believe that "law" is a better translation for DYN, for the laws of God cannot be changed, and if they are not obeyed there is a punishment, either here or in judgement day. On the other hand, religion has become a meaningless word for people. They don't feel the same if you tell them that you obeying the religion of God, as if you tell them that you are obeying the law of God. If you tell people that they are not obeying the religion of God, is meaningless to them, whereas if you tell them that they are not obeying the law of God, subconsciously they are understanding that they are breaking the law. And, God is aware of the criminals.

                May God bless us with some wisdom.

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                  hawk99
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                  Peace Family,

                  Words simply have Synonyms you can choose the ones that suit you

                  RELIGION

                  1. beliefs and worship people's beliefs and opinions concerning the existence, nature, and worship of a deity or deities, and divine involvement in the universe and human life

                  2. system an institutionalized or personal system of beliefs and practices relating to the divine

                  3. personal beliefs or values a set of strongly-held beliefs, values, and attitudes that somebody lives by

                  4. obsession an object, practice, cause, or activity that somebody is completely devoted to or obsessed by

                  Synonyms faith, belief, creed, conviction.

                  peace

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                    Jango
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                    Peace drfazl,

                    What exactly is your line of work, are you a medical doctor, an orthopedist, optometrist,
                    what is your profession.

                    O0

                    Please check www.foolproofcure.net

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                      hawk99
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                      Please check www.foolproofcure.net

                      Peace Jango, I have no idea what language is being spoken in that video.
                      My question was straight forward, no videos, links, etc. please

                      Peace drfazl,
                      What exactly is your line of work, are you a medical doctor, an orthopedist, optometrist,
                      what is your profession.

                      O0

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                        hawk99
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                        Peace Family,

                        WAY

                        Definition
                        NOUN
                        ways plural

                        1. manner or method a means, manner, or method of doing something
                          "I'll do it my way."

                        2. respect a feature, aspect, or example of something
                          "In some ways, they're very similar."

                        3. path a path or physical means of getting from one place to another
                          "The way out is through here."

                        4. door or opening a door or opening leading or providing access to or from somewhere
                          "came in the front way"

                        5. journey or route a journey or the route followed or to be followed
                          "on my way home"

                        6. progress through life progress or a path through life and its experiences or difficulties

                        7. street a street(often used in place names)

                        8. direction a direction, e.g. left, right, up, or down

                        9. manner of placing the manner in which something is placed, packed, or arranged, or the direction it faces

                        10. space for action path, room, territory, or space allowing movement, progress, or action
                          "got out of the way"

                        11. area an area or district, e.g. around somebody's home(informal)
                          "out our way"

                        12. distance a distance away in space or time
                          "a long way off"

                        13. amount the extent or amount to which somebody does something or to which something happens
                          "He's fallen for her in a big way."

                        14. part of something each of a particular number of parts into which something divides or is split
                          "split the money four ways"

                        15. condition the state or condition of somebody or something, especially with regard to health or finances
                          "He's in a bad way."

                        16. preference something that somebody wants to do or to happen
                          "always wants his own way"

                        17. tradition or custom the customary practice of a person or group

                        18. typical occurrence the usual occurrence or pattern of events
                          "It's always the way when you're in a hurry."

                        19. mechanical engineering guide or support a surface used to guide or provide support for moving parts of a machine tool such as a lathe(often used in the plural)

                        ADVERB

                        1. very much to a considerable degree or at a considerable distance(informal)
                          "way out of our price range"

                        2. very extremely(slang)
                          "That's way cool!"

                        by the way used to introduce something that is not strictly part of the subject at hand

                        by way of something as a means of or for the purpose of something

                        every which way

                        1. in all directions

                        2. in every way possible (informal)

                        give way

                        1. to become useless, break, or otherwise fail, especially under weight or pressure or from age or wear

                        2. transportationto slow down or stop in order to let another vehicle pass

                        give way to somebody or something to be replaced or superseded by somebody or something
                        The rain gave way to patchy sunshine.

                        give way to something to be overcome by an emotion that you have been trying to resist

                        go out of your way to do something to make an exceptional effort or take exceptional steps in order to do something

                        have a way with somebody or something to be good at dealing with somebody or something

                        have it both ways to have the benefits of opposing situations or actions

                        in a way from a certain point of view

                        (in) the worst way very much, very badly, or very intensely

                        lead the way

                        1. to go first, especially in order to show others where to go

                        2. to do something first and so set others an example
                          leading the way in new technology

                        make way (for somebody or something) to move aside in order to make room for somebody or something

                        make your way

                        1. to go somewhere, especially when getting there requires overcoming some obstacle, e.g. finding the route or some transportation

                        2. to become successful

                        Synonyms method, means, technique, mode, system, approach, manner, line of attack, tactic, fashion, style

                        peace

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                          wrkmmn
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                          peace

                          but Asian people must learn a lot from Europe for how to became "freedom", freedom of speech, freedom of ideals without any oppression.

                          Another blind sheep promoting European freedom. A blind sheep that does not see the fence around him/her. Freedom in Europe, hahahahahahahah. Do you want to see where your freedom ends? just try to walk in the opposite direction of the flock, and when you are close to the fence try to jump it, then you will see how you end up slaughtered in the table of your masters.

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                            Man_of_Faith
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                            Peace Earthdom,

                            In that case all words and languages are man-made. The Arabic language was not exclusive to the Quran, God chose this language for His revelation or no one would have understood it. It existed prior to Quran.

                            Religion is not an accurate translation of deen, but it may be acceptable as such. You need to analyze the etymology of the word religion and not what it stands for in common usage. I have my theories of that and it is not far off from deen.

                            God bless you

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                              drfazl
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                              Peace drfazl,

                              What exactly is your line of work, are you a medical doctor, an orthopedist, optometrist,
                              what is your profession.

                              O0

                              Peace,
                              Brother hawk99.

                              I finished MD Medicine in 1982. Starting from 1978 for six years I was practising as general practitioner, knowing well it is a disservice and a haram practice, the reasons why it is that would surely and slowly come to surface in my thread "Peace Vs. Emotions". I was not practising it without fear in God.

                              Then I tumbled on the concept of homeopathy which I found to be a better system than MM. While practising it I was again disillusioned and found its concept inconsistent. I prayed all the while I do not want to practise any system of medicine that involves drugs in any form.

                              A wonderful concept called acupuncture seized my heart; I embraced it immediately, leaving the homeopathy; and it was amazing experience for me for 13 years. By Allah's grace the 13 years were like me journeying with Allah all alone. With just a single needle on a vantage acupuncture point, precisely guided by Allah effecting a cure within seconds of touching it, took me to a level beyond the skies. This is Allah's work and not mine, I was clearly informed of it by the One Curer if I am right.

                              Per day my earning was USD 2000 from morning 530 to 930 am. But then I became afraid when the people began murmuring if I could be God, or Avatar of God. It is easy for the Himdu community to say so and even they would not hesitate to fall at the feet, which practise I warned them against. I became really afraid. People were queuing up before my house night and day.

                              My prayer now to Allah I would not be willing to continue acupuncture as the patient speak I am god or godlike. Save me from this shirky business but I want to be a doctor. I left acupincture one morning of a sudden, telling all my waiting patients, "I will not touch you with needle any more for it was not me effecting a cure, but Allah." Many, almost all left me in just three moths. My house was deserted with no more patients coming to me. I became a pauper like.

                              Allah finally taught me His Way. From the year 1999 December the patients one by one started trickling again after a gap of 3 years. Now after 13 years of leaving acupuncture, with the cure effected in each patient through prayers alone, I am teaching Quran and how to be under the grace of Allah by shirking away from shirk. My fees now is USD 2000 per patient. It is no more a fees now because I am not curing but God. It is an offering they have to give as their alms for Allah having guided them in the right path through a chosen person from among them. I was not revealing this all along only to avoid embarrassment on both the sides.

                              9103
                              Take Sadaqah (alms) from their wealth in order to purify them and sanctify them with it, and invoke Allah for them. Verily! Your invocations are a source of security for them, and Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

                              Peace,
                              brother
                              fazlur rahman

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                                Man_of_Faith
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                                Peace,

                                Hmm... 2000 bucks for your service.

                                God bless you

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                                  hawk99
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                                  It's because deen cannot simply translated in to "religion" because "religion" is manmade.

                                  Peace Earthdom,

                                  "Religion" is a correct translation. In "english" We say "the catholic religion" or "the
                                  protestant religion" or "the jewish religion" or "the muslim religion" or "the hindu
                                  religion". We do not say "the christian deen" or "the jewish path" or "the catholic way"

                                  I hope this is useful.

                                  ONE GOD

                                  peace

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                                    hawk99
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                                    Peace,
                                    Brother hawk99.

                                    I finished MD Medicine in 1982. Starting from 1978 for six years I was practising as general practitioner, knowing well it is a disservice and a haram practice, the reasons why it is that would surely and slowly come to surface in my thread "Peace Vs. Emotions". I was not practising it without fear in God.

                                    Then I tumbled on the concept of homeopathy which I found to be a better system than MM. While practising it I was again disillusioned and found its concept inconsistent. I prayed all the while I do not want to practise any system of medicine that involves drugs in any form.

                                    A wonderful concept called acupuncture seized my heart; I embraced it immediately, leaving the homeopathy; and it was amazing experience for me for 13 years. By Allah's grace the 13 years were like me journeying with Allah all alone. With just a single needle on a vantage acupuncture point, precisely guided by Allah effecting a cure within seconds of touching it, took me to a level beyond the skies. This is Allah's work and not mine, I was clearly informed of it by the One Curer if I am right.

                                    Per day my earning was USD 2000 from morning 530 to 930 am. But then I became afraid when the people began murmuring if I could be God, or Avatar of God. It is easy for the Himdu community to say so and even they would not hesitate to fall at the feet, which practise I warned them against. I became really afraid. People were queuing up before my house night and day.

                                    My prayer now to Allah I would not be willing to continue acupuncture as the patient speak I am god or godlike. Save me from this shirky business but I want to be a doctor. I left acupincture one morning of a sudden, telling all my waiting patients, "I will not touch you with needle any more for it was not me effecting a cure, but Allah." Many, almost all left me in just three moths. My house was deserted with no more patients coming to me. I became a pauper like.

                                    Allah finally taught me His Way. From the year 1999 December the patients one by one started trickling again after a gap of 3 years. Now after 13 years of leaving acupuncture, with the cure effected in each patient through prayers alone, I am teaching Quran and how to be under the grace of Allah by shirking away from shirk. My fees now is USD 2000 per patient. It is no more a fees now because I am not curing but God. It is an offering they have to give as their alms for Allah having guided them in the right path through a chosen person from among them. I was not revealing this all along only to avoid embarrassment on both the sides.

                                    9103
                                    Take Sadaqah (alms) from their wealth in order to purify them and sanctify them with it, and invoke Allah for them. Verily! Your invocations are a source of security for them, and Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

                                    Peace,
                                    brother
                                    fazlur rahman

                                    Peace drfazl,

                                    Thank you for the reply, now I can read your posts with a clearer understanding of your
                                    method, I really appreciate your forthrightness and honesty, may God bless you and
                                    hold you close.

                                    peace

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                                      drfazl
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                                      Peace,

                                      Hmm... 2000 bucks for your service.

                                      God bless you

                                      My brother,
                                      Man of Faith,
                                      Salam.

                                      Hmmm... Please remove this awesome expression for what Allah holds for you should be uniquely a newly different method of easy sustenance hitherto untouched and unimagined by any of the 8 billion population of the world. Right now each one of us is on top of the worlds by Allah and as a believer we believe as such and may Allah increase us in His belief. Say, "O Allah, the Most Benevolent, Ample-Giving, forgive me for that Hmmmm..... expression" You hold much more for me and unto each of such believers of this forum". After all the USD is nothing but a donkey eating paper. Even the donkeys would not taste it. So the more you devalue the nasty paper, your credibility of your IMAN raises in His esteem.

                                      1. Those who spend their wealth in Allah's Cause by night and day, in secret and in public, they shall have their reward with their Most Bountiful. On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

                                      Allah has heard you repeating after this prayerful words. Most, almost all toil hard in business to earn the ugly paper; should Allah make things easy for you in this temporary life or make it hard? Easy, isn't it? Then will you seek from him to give you good 'busi'ness? Or 'easi'ness? All the rest of the world seek from The Most Easy, 'busi'ness; they are like bygones. Seek EASINESS from Allah, The Most Easy! He would be pleased with you for having coined a new Attribute to Him over the so called 99 of Sunnis.

                                      O Allah, The Most Colourful! Make my life easy, cosy and rosy!
                                      O Allah, The Hearer, The Knower! Make me, Surrender unto Thee!

                                      Your life shall change from this moment! Never doubt! Say Amin! Which means O Allah, I have placed my IMAN in you at whatever I had wished for right now as I was reading through this post.

                                      1. It is not for any person to have IMAN, in other words to be a Mumin, except by the Leave of Allah, and He will put the wrath on those who are heedless.

                                      Your dear brother
                                      Fazlur Rahman

                                      Salam.

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                                        Man_of_Faith
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                                        Peace brother Fazl,

                                        I was just a bit curious if you keep all that money for yourself, that was all.

                                        God bless you

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                                          drfazl
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                                          Peace brother Fazl,

                                          I was just a bit curious if you keep all that money for yourself, that was all.

                                          God bless you

                                          Man of Faith
                                          Salam

                                          About saving the money, there is not a word in Quran which I would not dare do.

                                          One fifth of what I earn is spent in the cause of Allah in line with 2273 and 841

                                          1. They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs In order that ye may consider-

                                          I do not save but spend for the best living for saving the money and believing in the savings for the future is haram; and spending is halal for unless we believe Allah would bring us more and more, it is impossible to spend.

                                          The more I feel, "I earn!" The more niggardly I become. I would begin to consider I am in no more need of Allah. So to be in fear for Allah all the time, I spend except for a few months' saving ahead of me. Soon even that fear will go, by Allah, the Ample Giving.

                                          I would be satisfied with what Allah leaves me behind after spending in His cause which would be too good for me.

                                          1. "That which is left for you by Allah is best for you, if ye believed! but I am not set over you to keep watch!"

                                          Brother
                                          fazl

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