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    Bender
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    Wa'alaikum salam Bender.

    BLUE230 And your Lord said to the angels ?I am placing a successor on
    the earth.?........"

    If you disagree, so what is the meaning of "khalifa" in 230 according to you so it will became fit with the aayat?.

    salaamun alayka,

    You said succesor of Allah
    The ayaat says a succesor

    salaam,
    Bender

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      unknownuser
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      Walaykum salam Bender.

      I don't know what do you mean bro?

      If Allah said "I will place my succesor in the earth", so this mean it's indirect said if Allah's position will be replaced by human &.

      It's like if you say " I will place my succesor in the office", so this means you already arrange the succesor, so the succesor will replacing your position soon.

      Salaaam

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        Bender
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        Walaykum salam Bender.

        I don't know what do you mean bro?

        If Allah said "I will place my succesor in the earth", so this mean it's indirect said if Allah's position will be replaced by human &.

        It's like if you say " I will place my succesor in the office", so this means you already arrange the succesor, so the succesor will replacing your position soon.

        Salaaam

        Salaamuna alyka bro,

        There is no "MY" in the ayaat )

        salaam,
        Bender

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          unknownuser
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          The word my is exist or not, the result is no different lol o

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            Bender
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            The word my is exist or not, the result is no different lol

            giveup

            Sorry supportpeacenotwar for fftopic

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              kgwithnob
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              Walaykum salam Bender.

              I don't know what do you mean bro?

              If Allah said "I will place my succesor in the earth", so this mean it's indirect said if Allah's position will be replaced by human &.

              It's like if you say " I will place my succesor in the office", so this means you already arrange the succesor, so the succesor will replacing your position soon.

              Salaaam

              highlights above are from me.

              230,

              And recall what time thine Lord said unto the angels verily I am going to place a vicegerent On the earth. They said wilt Thou place therein one who will act corruptly therein and shed blood While we hallow Thine praise and glorify Thee! Allah said verily I know that which ye know not.

              In the verse above GOD says A REPLACEMENT/successor, not MY successor.

              GOD is replacing a NEW, more evolved, generation of HUMANS with the previous, less evolved ones, on Earth.

              Peace,
              Khalil

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                unknownuser
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                The word my is exist or not, the result is no different lol

                Khalifa, khalaf, istakhlafa, khulafa' .... the various derivatives of this word appear a dozen times in the Quran, and never change their meaning SUCCESSOR

                You can look up all instances of this word and verify for yourself how the Quran uses it. Nations or peoples die, perish, become extinct, and are succeeded by others. This is the process of Istikhlaf.

                Claiming that humans are the successors of Allah is tantamount to blasphemy, as Allah is eternal and omnipresent.

                The passage you refer to states that Allah told the Malai'ka of His intention to make humankind (Adam and his progeny) the successor of a savage hominid race that existed before. This has been unquestionably proven by science, as the fossilized bones of these hominids have been unearthed, and showed that they co-existed with homo-sapiens - for a period of time - before they died out and became extinct. This is the Khilafa that the Quran is talking about.

                Peace...

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                  unknownuser
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                  LOL kgwithnob...looks like we were typing our replies at the same time.
                  O0

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                    Peace Khalil and Pazuzu

                    Actually Bender missunderstood me.He think if I mistaken myself for putting the word "my" before "khalifah" in 230, but actually I just use that for the example only.

                    GOD is replacing a NEW, more evolved, generation of HUMANS with the previous, less evolved ones, on Earth.

                    The passage you refer to states that Allah told the Malai'ka of His intention to make humankind (Adam and his progeny) the successor of a savage hominid race that existed before. This has been unquestionably proven by science, as the fossilized bones of these hominids have been unearthed, and showed that they co-existed with homo-sapiens - for a period of time - before they died out and became extinct. This is the Khilafa that the Quran is talking about.
                    Your tafseer has no base from the Quran.So this is only an assumption, because Allah never said " I will place a succesor for previous generation (primordial man etc)".

                    But both of your tafseer has no Quranic base.I mean this is only an assumption, because Allah never said "I will place succesor for previous generation (premordial man)"

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                      kgwithnob
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                      Allah never said "I will place succesor for previous generation (premordial man)"

                      highlight above is from me.

                      I'm quoting four verses and listing a whole bunch more for you to look up, so you know that replacing, i.e. placing SUCCESORS, generations after generations, is an INTEGRAL part of GOD's SUNNAH/system.

                      14;19,

                      35;16,

                      6;133,

                      6;165

                      7;69-74-129-142-150-169, 10;73-92, 14;22, 19;59, 24;55, 27;62, 35;39, 38;26 43;60

                      Peace,
                      Khalil

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                        supportpeacenotwar
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                        giveup

                        Sorry supportpeacenotwar for offtopic

                        Aww, it's ok. I have come to understand the ways of this forum. jedi

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