Allah
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It is also has been discussed countless times by Quran-alone muslims.
This thread may also help you.
Click hereBut I didn't create the thread because I didn't know that Allah is just an Arabic word for God but I was just feeling sad by some people who claim that Allah is the name of God in Islam and non-muslims can't use Allah.
Yes, just use God.
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I'm an Englishman, the English word is 'God'. That is my only reason. If my first language was Arabic, then I would say Allah.
Saying God too makes non-Muslims realise that we are not a new invented faith but that we are connected to the same prophets as Jews and Christians. This still surprises many of my fellow britons as the ignorance regarding the basic beliefs of Muslims are still strong.
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Salam!
Salam and welcome to the forum )
why are the so many so just say God and not Allah? Allah is his name.
ALLH ()
n. GOD.
(1) The God (as the initial 'Al' is the definite article)
(2) The Sole Deity (i.e. the one and only Divinity there is)(a) The one worthy of all worship.
(b) The primeval, uncaused causal Agent.
(c) The most celebrated name of God. The Author of the Qur'an.
(d) The object of worship in Monotheistic religions, particularly in Islam.
(e) The Supreme Being, the Creator and Ruler of the universe. The One Divinity; God.
(f) The Lord of Adam, Noa, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Jesus, and Muhammad (pbu-them).
(g) Eternal Supernatural Being conceived as the Perfect, Omnipotent and Omniscient Originator of existence.
Triconsonantal Root Alif. Lm. H'. (A-L-H / ه
Quranic Frequency 2699 times as the proper noun allah (ه
Etymology
ALLH < Arabic (Allh), "God" < - (al-, the” + (ilh, god” = The God.
Proto-Semitic *il-, extended form *ilh- in Central South Semitic only.
Biblical Aramaic (lhā
Classical Syriac (ALh?)
Hebrew (Alh’, or (Eloah) ...
- ALH (l, ?lə, , is derived from an old Semitic root (*il-) referring to the Divine and used in the Canaanite El, the Mesopotamian ilu, and the biblical Elohim, ...
The proper noun in question is simply the Arabic word for "God" (as mentioned by sister Yuliana), it is used by Arabic-speaking Muslims, Christians, Jews; and often, albeit not exclusively, Baha'is, Indonesian, Malaysian, Maltese Christians, and Mizhari Jews, among others.
ALH, as a deity, was known in pre-Islamic Arabia ... Arabic chronicles suggest a pre-Islamic recognition of ALH as a "High God" Who was not worshiped as the Sole Divinity. i.e., The pagan Meccans attributed associates, companions, sons and daughters to ALaH - a concept that was deleted under the reign of Muhammad, who is (traditionally) said to have destroyed the idols of the kaaba, declared ALH as the Sole Deity worthy of all worship, and demanded a return to strict Monotheism.
The word ALH was used by Nabataeans in compound names, such as "Abd Allah" (The Servant of God), "Aush Allah" (The Faith of God), "Amat Allah" (The She-Servant of God), "Hab Allah" (Beloved of God), "Han Allah" (God is gracious), "Shalm Allah" (Peace of God), while the name "Wahab Allah" (The Gift of God) was found throughout the entire region of the Nabataean kingdom. From Nabataean inscriptions, ALH seems to have been regarded as "The High and Main God", while other deities were considered to be mediators before Him and of a second status, which was the same case of the worshipers at the Kaaba temple at Mecca.
but I know Allah has 99 names
ALLAH has more than just 99 names/attributes )
Hope this helps.
SLM -
Peace All
Allah is always denoted as SINGULAR, whereas God can be expressed in PLURAL as Gods. Hence Allah is appropriate word that cannot be associated to any, and could be UNIVERSALLY used befittingly.
Allah is limitless and confining Him to 99 names is not befitting.
Regards
Gita
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Peace All
Allah is always denoted as SINGULAR, whereas God can be expressed in PLURAL as Gods. Hence Allah is appropriate word that cannot be associated to any, and could be UNIVERSALLY used befittingly.
Allah is limitless and confining Him to 99 names is not befitting.
Regards
Gita
Allah = God (singular)
Gods (plural) =/= Allah
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Peace All
Allah is always denoted as SINGULAR, whereas God can be expressed in PLURAL as Gods. Hence Allah is appropriate word that cannot be associated to any, and could be UNIVERSALLY used befittingly.
Allah is limitless and confining Him to 99 names is not befitting.
Regards
GitaPeace Gita,
What you think about a feminine of word Allah?
0219 - Allaahu is masculine.
5319 - Allaata is feminine.May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhan -
Recently I already change my mind.
Allah in this modern time often translated as God and current Arab speaker also say ?Allah? for God.Even some Bible translations in Arabic,Austronesian (Malaysia,Malay, Indonesia, Batak, etc) translating the word ?Elohim? as ?Allah?.
And the word Allah in the Quran allegedly derived from ?Al? and ?ilah?.Now I will bring some evidences
- Allah and ilah is separate entity
3735 When it was said to them ?Laa ilaha illa Allah,? they would be arrogant.(Free-Minds)
If we translate Allah as "the god" or ?Al-Ilah?, then it will be ?No god but (the) God?.To me this sentence is little bit strange cause duplication of subject and object, then who is god )??
The purpose of object is to explain the subject,
the example is There is no police but the police.This sentence is little bit strange,and
There is no police but John.The object (John) explain who is subject (police).This is the correct sentence.- Allah is a proper noun not noun.
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?In name Allah, Al-Rahman, Al-Rahim.This is the first verse in the Quran and one of the most popular verse and it seems some of us abandoned this.
Allah, Al-Rahman, Al Rahim, this three words is proper name and written separately each other and no conjunctive between them.17111
?Say ?Call on God or call on the Almighty; whichever you call on, to Him are the best names?Re-read this verse.The usage of ?Allah? in this verse is as a proper noun and part of the Asma?ul husna (best names).
Usage of ?god? in english language is for noun not proper noun (READ) .This means Allah in the Quran is the name of our God.According to @hicham9, the word ?Allah? appear 2699 times in the Quran as proper noun.
This is ?Allah? according Lane Lexicon's dictionary
?a proper name denoting the true god, comprising all the excellent divine names; a unity comprising
all the essences of existing thing?Thus @mmkhan said if Al-Lat () in 5319 is Illah in feminin word.Yes he is true because the rule of muannadz (feminime word) is the last word end with ta?marbuthah () or ta? ().But it?s still same according to corpus quran this word is also proper noun (READ).
So the conclusion is Allah in the Quran is proper noun/name not just merely a noun nor adjective.
May current Arab speaker using ?Allah? for god, but Quran was sent down in classical Arab,so to studying It we must use Classical Arab prespective not modern one.If I?m wrong, please correct mine post.Peace
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Salaam Earthdom,
Please learn the difference between god and God.
The word 'god', as a common noun can be anything that is deified and worshipped such as Amen-Ra the Egyptian god, a human being, a stone etc.
Whereas God is the Supreme Being. God is a proper noun.
I have looked into my dictionary of word definitions and I found that God and god are separate words.
Regards,
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Peace Yuliana
So you want to understand Quran with modern English term.Quran was sent down in Classical Arab.Please re-read my post again from start until the last.
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Salaam,
This is the difference between God and god.
You see the word in green? The G is written in capital letter right?
And read the first definition, the definition of God with capital G.Definition of God in English
God
Pronunciation /gd/noun
1(in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
2 (god) (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity
a moon god
the Hindu god Vishnu
an image, animal, or other object worshipped as divine or symbolizing a god
wooden gods from the Congo
used as a conventional personification of fate
he dialled the number and, the gods relenting, got through at once
3 (god) a greatly admired or influential person
he has little time for the fashion victims for whom he is a god
a thing accorded the supreme importance appropriate to a god
don?t make money your god
4 (the gods) informal the gallery in a theatre
they sat in the gods.And the word 'god' in the 2nd to the last definitions is always in bracket with small g.
"There is no police but police"
This phrase would not be strange if you change the small p into capital P.
"there is no police but Police"
Anyway, there is no such thing as proper noun of police, unless there is a person whose name is Police. Hehehe.When God is denoted to Supreme Being, it is always written as God. Not Gods or god or gods.
I am sorry if my argument still looks invalid to you.
Anyway, are you saying that God has a real name, just like people who have names Ali, Maria, Joe, Katherine etc?
And we should use Allah instead of God?Or did you just say Allah cannot be translated into modern English term only but is possible to translate into other languages?
Regards,
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Peace Yuliana
You see the word in green? The G is written in capital letter right?
And read the first definition, the definition of God with capital G.Definition of God in English
God
Pronunciation /gd/I already told you to read the whole of my post in previous page.
.Plus there is no such term like God capital or uncapital god in Arabic language.Just try to read many english traditional translation of the Quran, rarely of them using God for Allah.May they do sectarian translation but they're expert in Arabic language.
AlQuran translation in many languages also translate Allah as Allah.Example in Malaysian and Indonesian translation, the word "Allah" didn't translate into "Tuhan" instead still "Allah".
In Classical Arab, the usage of word "Allah" is different from modern Arabic.Current Arab speaker using "Allah" for mentioning their god whateverer they're Muslim or Christian.
The proof is read Lane Lexicon classical Arab dictionary in page 83.(you can download it in many websites including @wakas's studyquran).The great website like corpusquran also said if "Allah" is a proper noun unlike ilah or Al-Ilah.
The God-god term was originally a Christian term and has nothing to do with the Quran's language.
Anyway, are you saying that God has a real name, just like people who have names Ali, Maria, Joe, Katherine etc?
And we should use Allah instead of God?Yes. our God's name is Allah, Ar Rahman, etc.The name musn't be translate into any other language even it can.
The example is Muhammad (saw).Muhammad/Ahmad/Hamada in english means "commendable".Is this means we translate his name as "Phrophet Commendable (saw) in Quran translation ??
Or did you just say Allah cannot be translated into modern English term only but is possible to translate into other languages?
No it cannot, not only modern english but also in any languages.All Muslim throughtout the word must said "Allah" for mentioning their God.
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Salaam,
You can't say Argumentum ad Populum to be a valid argument.
Anyways whatever
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And you rarely use that argument's rules when yu get debate with Israfeel and Al-Amyr.
Back to the topic, any comment again sister??
Peace
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And you rarely use that argument's rules when yu get debate with Israfeel and Al-Amyr.
Back to the topic, any comment again sister??
Peace
Salaam,
I don't mean to fight with you but it seems like you are saying that all my arguments against Israfeel, Al Amiyr et al are invalid and useless. Yeah maybe this is who I am= useless.
Do you even know what Argumentum ad Populum means. I rarely use this kind of argument fallacy. If I always appeal to the majority, I would have still been a Sunni and never found this forum.Anyway if that is your belief, (Allah is God's name) I just have to respect your belief.
I have done with my inputs.
I'm sorry if I seem like a failure to you.Regards.
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Peace
Do you even know what Argumentum ad Populum means. I rarely use this kind of argument fallacy. If I always appeal to the majority, I would have still been a Sunni and never found this forum.
Yes I know, but I often not use it in english language especially in this forum.This will made me so damn confused.
I have done with my inputs.
I'm sorry if I seem like a failure to you.No you're not a failure instead it's nice to have you in here.I even didn't care if members in here is failuere or not, ignorant or not because my original intention for joining this forum is to help me for studying Quran because there is no Quranist Imam in here.
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Fare thee well,
You imply that just because the Quran was revealed in Arabic the usage of God is limited to this language as well, ie by the name Allah. To God belongs all beautiful names no matter language. Call him any name as long it befits Him.
A word's meaning is what people intend for it to be. If God is God, then it is the same as Allah, and if you say it is the God of Jupiter, then it is Jupiter. Since there is in Islam only one God, it is simple and easy to conclude that God is sufficient for Him, no offense towards Him as He knows what is in our hearts.
If you say God, you mean God and He knows that. He knows what you reveal and what you conceal.
Call Him Master if you like. It is as good as calling him God. God has no name in that regard. He is simply all and everything. God is the One.
God allegedly told Moses according to the Old Testament "I am that I am". Despite being difficult to verify its authenticity, this expression could likely be true.
Humans, because of their weak nature, need a name to refer to God, but otherwise God needs no name. God is every thing. Allah is a Arabic reference. As long as we believe this one "force" or energy in the Universe is the ultimate power of all existence we are just fine.
God could have made us the same community all of us and we all spoke the same language, but God did not. That is why God did also not expect us all to exclusively refer to our God with the same name as the other community, particularly Allah.
Arabs are now as arrogant about their role in religion just as Jews were according to the Bible. Heritage could have its bonus, but this does not mean God cannot reappear in a different community with another Messenger. But history will most likely repeat itself... as usual.
God bless you
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Fare thee well,
You imply that just because the Quran was revealed in Arabic the usage of God is limited to this language as well, ie by the name Allah. To God belongs all beautiful names no matter language. Call him any name as long it befits Him.
Fare thee well
Please re-read my post again in page 1
God bless you.
I agree with MOF and Yuliana.
(AH) is simply the Arabic designation for ?GOD?
A contraction of (al-'ilh, the god) by omission of ('i).But the merging of Al and Ilah into Allah has no rules in Classical Arab.
The word Allah is included in isim ghayru musytaq (word with no root origin and not a fraction from another words)
Plus this word cannot be changed to another form like jamak (plurar),dual (tasniyah).Allah is not masculine nor feminine word and it's devinetly a proper name.Not only proofed by grammar rules but also Quran verses (read my explanation in page 1).
Peace
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Harmony be with thee,
Allah might be a proper name just as any family name which starts with "al" in the Arabian community.
In English a word is a name because you make it a proper noun by adding a capital letter to it. This means that God is a proper noun, because you capitalized it and thus made it a name.
Grammatically, "the God" is wrong, because you do not usually use a definite article for a proper noun. And why should you not treat God as a proper noun?
And even if you decapitalize God, it remains a proper noun and adding "the" to it makes it grammatically wrong. It is even wrong to not use a capital letter for God, as it is a name of a being.
However, talking about another being, then you may decapitalize it since it is no longer God you are talking about but Jupiter, Saturn or any other god you believe exists.
God is one, and hence there is only one God, there is no need to complicate the use of God by making it sound awkward and with lower-case letter and 'the' in front of the noun.
If you say 'God', He will know whom you are addressing.
God bless you