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    al-amiyr
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    Salam!

    I know. But im so.. i dont know. I start at School on monday and im litte afraid. I dont know if I shall use hijab or not. I starting to get bad time..

    But if you are under any pressure sister Aaleyah - then it is better for you to hide your believe for now and be as you were before without attracting any negative attention until you are fully ready to implement as much as is reasonable for you. There is no difficulty in islaam.

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      But if you are under any pressure sister Aaleyah - then it is better for you to hide your believe for now and be as you were before without attracting any negative attention until you are fully ready to implement as much as is reasonable for you. There is no difficulty in islaam.

      I understand. Thank you for advice, it means alot! But i dont hope that i dont use hijab do so i come to hell.. do you know about that? If i die tomorrw so i will be a good muslim.

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        Salam!
        So good that they dont care! We have not i Law like that in Norway, but we sould had it. In Norway People dont care if People go with hijab. But if People see a Norwegian muslim they stearing. I was in the mosque and People looket at me (i wear hijab in the mosqe) and a little boy said "Norway" hehe

        I dont know but the are rayer room on the schools

        Oh now I understand! People stare at native persons of a christian country converted to islaam and wearing a headscarf. Now I see, then in France also they stare at "pure French"-muslims. That is because they are used to see maghrebians-muslims and not so much French-muslims or Norwegian-muslims. And at the mosques either, the community is not formed with Norwegian-muslims or with French-muslims but with foreigners-muslims most of the time. Do not worry, they could eventually look at you more than they should, they could eventually ask you why and how did you adopt islaam as your religion, but the probability they insult you is very low I think. I remember once I was going at the university, I was in the bus sitting near a bunch of guys who were criticizing islaam, saying "but me I don't care about doing 5 prayers a day" but they didn't know what they were talking about.

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          I understand. Thank you for advice, it means alot! But i dont hope that i dont use hijab do so i come to hell.. do you know about that? If i die tomorrw so i will be a good muslim.

          ALLAAH will judge all your actions by your intentions. I have the perfect knowledge of the law to tell you what is the best thing to do. All my fore fathers were all great scholars of islaam (44 generations up to the prophet(S+). They have taught more people( including of the greatest scholars, kings and emperors) about the qur'aan and islaam than any family in the history of the world. Everything is historically recorded. Have no fear! Serve ALLAAH as best and as beautiful as you can inshaa ALLAAH.

          When my great grandfather the great shaykh of knowledge Abu Bakr Effendi al-Qurashiy al-Amjadiy left the capital city of the islamic government in Istanbul in 1862 - he was a gift to Queen Victoria - to reintroduce islaam again in Southern Africa- he reintroduced the Muslim women to wear hijab. If you can wear hijaab wear it. If it is difficult for you, hide it in your bag or wherever it is easy for you to reach. When the occasion arises for you to put it back on put it back on. May ALLAAH guide all to his right road and make it easy for them inshaa ALLAAH.

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            Salam!
            .... I was in the mosque and People looket at me (i wear hijab in the mosqe) and a little boy said "Norway" hehe

            salaam+ Aaleyah

            Did the staring and mocking occur in the mosque, as you said you were in the mosque when a little boy said "Norway hehe"?
            I know from my husband's experience, he is a Swedish Muslim, that often the Muslim people are the ones who stare at you and make you feel uncomfortable. They are not willing to accept suggestions from non Muslims, o new Muslims. My step daughter who is half Swedish, was bullied, in a Muslim school that she attended as a child. Today she is far away from Islam, so please do not be put off by some racist ignorant people.
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              diamantinehoneybunch
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              No, you don't have to wear hijab.

              2431 And tell the believing females to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or those maintained by their oaths, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.

              This is free-minds translation This verse is to command women to wear proper and respectable clothes.
              http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Brooklyn_Museum_-Do%C3%B1a_Josefa_de_la_Cotera_y_Calvo_de_la_Puerta-Mexican-_overall.jpg
              The black cloth is a shawl. The woman in the picture wears proper clothing right?

              The word hijab that occurs in Quran does not refer to head-cover but barrier.

              In Sura An-Nur 24 Ayah 31, it does not command women to cover their hair. The word khumur in the verse is mistranslated into veils/head-coverings. Khimar (singular of khumur) is anything that covers something such as the table cloths that cover the table. Don't listen to al-amiyr, he is traditional/sunni Muslim. If you are a Quran-alone muslim, you should not considered hijab to be compulsory. But if you want to wear, just wear it. If you don't want to wear, don't wear.

              I am an ex-Sunni. When I was 14, I was really scared. I didn't consider God to be merciful. I used to believe that God would punish people whomever He wanted. I wore the hijab even though I didn't like it. I didn't understand why God The Merciful would punish people just for not covering hair.

              I shivered when I browsed and found ridiculous hadiths. I monologued "Is this a true religion?". Thank God, there was someone who told me "Hadiths were written centuries after Muhammad. If there are hadiths that go against Quran, they are not trustworthy". He is actually a Sectarian Muslim but just picks and chooses hadiths whichever sound good.

              Thank God, I have found the truth. The pure islam is the creed of Abraham, a true monotheism. Muhammad didn't follow a new religion. Muhammad followed the creed of Abraham. We are only commanded by God to take Quran alone as source of religious legislation.

              If you consider head-covering to be compulsory, you are no different than the Sunnis, the Shi'a 'Muslims'.

              Aaleyah, it seems like you ignore links that have been given by Brother Wakas. Fine, if you want to follow al-amiyr's path. He is a traditional/sectarian Muslim who loves hadiths. I am not saying that it is wrong to wear the hijab but if you consider it to be compulsory, don't dare call yourself a Qur'an-alone muslim. Have you ever read Wakas' links?
              To be honest it seems like you totally ignore links that people, such as Wakas have given you. I feel upset.

              If you consider women who don't wear head-coverings would be burnt in hell, you are no different than the Sunnis/Ahlul Sunnahs the Shiahs/Shi'ites.
              I do wear head-covering sometimes---When I'm forced by my parents, at school , at mosque and the places that are considered to be religious/holy places in 'Islam'.

              Regards,
              Yuliana

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                This dwelling on the clothing of women as if it was a thing different from anybody else's clothing and a consecrated part of religion for women and apart from everything else and very important is obssessive and sick.

                THE QUR'AN DOES NOT DO THAT.

                Muslims, in whichever sense we take the word, will never get anywhere as long as they put women's clothing as a source of anything or a meaning special aside form everything else. Clothing of women is of no more consequence than clothing of men. and what 24.31 says is not about clothing but about an attitude and it is for the sole benefit of women as human beings and not for the benefit of any purported "modesty". By the way a very convenient word "modesty" becuse of its ambivalence you can switch from meaning something to do with decency, sexual decency, to mean humbleness. Very convenient to manipulate women and their feeling of guilt.

                Here is what I wrote in a thread, -another one of the many hundreds-, on hijab and that crap. The hijab question is no question at all it is crap.

                Here is what I wrote

                "It says "yubdina", that is to show, to exhibit, to make obvious. It means that one does not make a show of it, does not make and end of making anything obvious. One thing is that whatever is seen and another thing is that it is shown, displayed, exhibited, paraded. You may wear a silk scarve on your neck, it is seen, but it is not necessarily shown. If you show it, you draw atention to it, you wnt that people detain their look on it observe it, tke notice of it. So it is about not making a show of themselves, not that if a leg is seen it is a sin, or something like that it is to make a show of the legs or of the hair or of whatever, of the breasts even if they are covered, one can make a show of anything even if it is covered. Women are being advised against vanity, which as happens with hips, breasts,etc. in women it is very much encouraged to make it a valuable asset. Women are made to rely a lot on their looks parfticularly the most "feminine" parts of them. That is the whole point. The Qur'an wants women to keep from basing their value on looks nd warns clearly about it."

                The Qur'an here is not preseving women from indecency but from vanity, from letting themselves be cornered into basing their value, their social value on looks, on being attractive. It does not tell them to clothe this or that part, save for the breasts, but to not exhibit themselves and become a walking shopwindow of themselves for their own sense of self value. For temptations, the Qur'an hs the same recipe for males and females Guard yor privagte parts and lower the gaze. There no different recipe for the sexes, and this is born out very well in Yusuf's story, where a male tempts very much the females to the point of making them harass him sexually, but he keeps his virtue. In spite of that, that the only illustration that the Qur'an gives of sexual temptation is that of man, still women are pounded upon with their looks as something that affects males. Enough is enough. Women should avoid vanity for their own valuable sake, not for any nonsense that obssessed people may invent. Hijab is not in the Qur'an in any form or shape. It is fraudulent to push in.

                It is the same tactic followed to condone salvery or the sexual femle slaves for the men's "needs". Not to be tempted by women hair, walk or existence seems to be another product of those men "needs" that seem to be the source olf law for many muslims. May for the power thirsty or the obssessed, who may be the same ones, but they hid their power trip behind a purported sexual obssession.

                What surprises me is that many women still seem to be under the spell of this fraud.

                Salaam

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                  No, you don't have to wear hijab.

                  2431 And tell the believing females to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or those maintained by their oaths, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.

                  This is free-minds translation This verse is to command women to wear proper and respectable clothes.
                  http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Brooklyn_Museum_-Do%C3%B1a_Josefa_de_la_Cotera_y_Calvo_de_la_Puerta-Mexican-_overall.jpg
                  The black cloth is a shawl. The woman in the picture wears proper clothing right?

                  The word hijab that occurs in Quran does not refer to head-cover but barrier.

                  In Sura An-Nur 24 Ayah 31, it does not command women to cover their hair. The word khumur in the verse is mistranslated into veils/head-coverings. Khimar (singular of khumur) is anything that covers something such as the table cloths that cover the table. Don't listen to al-amiyr, he is traditional/sunni Muslim. If you are a Quran-alone muslim, you should not considered hijab to be compulsory. But if you want to wear, just wear it. If you don't want to wear, don't wear.

                  I am an ex-Sunni. When I was 14, I was really scared. I didn't consider God to be merciful. I used to believe that God would punish people whomever He wanted. I wore the hijab even though I didn't like it. I didn't understand why God The Merciful would punish people just for not covering hair.

                  I shivered when I browsed and found ridiculous hadiths. I monologued "Is this a true religion?". Thank God, there was someone who told me "Hadiths were written centuries after Muhammad. If there are hadiths that go against Quran, they are not trustworthy". He is actually a Sectarian Muslim but just picks and chooses hadiths whichever sound good.

                  Thank God, I have found the truth. The pure islam is the creed of Abraham, a true monotheism. Muhammad didn't follow a new religion. Muhammad followed the creed of Abraham. We are only commanded by God to take Quran alone as source of religious legislation.

                  If you consider head-covering to be compulsory, you are no different than the Sunnis, the Shi'a 'Muslims'.

                  Aaleyah, it seems like you ignore links that have been given by Brother Wakas. Fine, if you want to follow al-amiyr's path. He is a traditional/sectarian Muslim who loves hadiths. I am not saying that it is wrong to wear the hijab but if you consider it to be compulsory, don't dare call yourself a Qur'an-alone muslim. Have you ever read Wakas' links?
                  To be honest it seems like you totally ignore links that people, such as Wakas have given you. I feel upset.

                  If you consider women who don't wear head-coverings would be burnt in hell, you are no different than the Sunnis/Ahlul Sunnahs the Shiahs/Shi'ites.
                  I do wear head-covering sometimes---When I'm forced by my parents, at school , at mosque and the places that are considered to be religious/holy places in 'Islam'.

                  Regards,
                  Yuliana

                  Salam!

                  I like the picture. I also interpreted the Qur'an as the need to cover a lot of the body and not necessarily the hair. But it does not look a bit strange that I have covered all over the body without the hijab? And yes, I read the link he gave me.

                  Do not say I'm Sunni, for I am not

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                    Oh now I understand! People stare at native persons of a christian country converted to islaam and wearing a headscarf. Now I see, then in France also they stare at "pure French"-muslims. That is because they are used to see maghrebians-muslims and not so much French-muslims or Norwegian-muslims. And at the mosques either, the community is not formed with Norwegian-muslims or with French-muslims but with foreigners-muslims most of the time. Do not worry, they could eventually look at you more than they should, they could eventually ask you why and how did you adopt islaam as your religion, but the probability they insult you is very low I think. I remember once I was going at the university, I was in the bus sitting near a bunch of guys who were criticizing islaam, saying "but me I don't care about doing 5 prayers a day" but they didn't know what they were talking about.

                    ?

                    Sad that it's like that in France too. Hope it will be different for each. That people stare. It is true. The boys have no idea what they are talking about

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                      ALLAAH will judge all your actions by your intentions. I have the perfect knowledge of the law to tell you what is the best thing to do. All my fore fathers were all great scholars of islaam (44 generations up to the prophet(S+). They have taught more people( including of the greatest scholars, kings and emperors) about the qur'aan and islaam than any family in the history of the world. Everything is historically recorded. Have no fear! Serve ALLAAH as best and as beautiful as you can inshaa ALLAAH.

                      When my great grandfather the great shaykh of knowledge Abu Bakr Effendi al-Qurashiy al-Amjadiy left the capital city of the islamic government in Istanbul in 1862 - he was a gift to Queen Victoria - to reintroduce islaam again in Southern Africa- he reintroduced the Muslim women to wear hijab. If you can wear hijaab wear it. If it is difficult for you, hide it in your bag or wherever it is easy for you to reach. When the occasion arises for you to put it back on put it back on. May ALLAAH guide all to his right road and make it easy for them inshaa ALLAAH.

                      Good idea. But the others said, I'm not sure if I should use it.

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                        salaam+ Aaleyah

                        Did the staring and mocking occur in the mosque, as you said you were in the mosque when a little boy said "Norway hehe"?
                        I know from my husband's experience, he is a Swedish Muslim, that often the Muslim people are the ones who stare at you and make you feel uncomfortable. They are not willing to accept suggestions from non Muslims, o new Muslims. My step daughter who is half Swedish, was bullied, in a Muslim school that she attended as a child. Today she is far away from Islam, so please do not be put off by some racist ignorant people.
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                        Salam!

                        Yes I was in the mosque. A Sunni Mosque. But it's not quanrister mosque here. Sad to hear that he experiences it. Terrible that your bully was bullied, it is poorly done.

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                          noshirk
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                          I have to wear hijab?

                          Salaam Sister

                          Hijab is a pagan pratice. Read history.
                          no hijab in quran.
                          Wearing Hijab is rejection. Wearing Hijab is following what other than god said.

                          Peace

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                            This dwelling on the clothing of women as if it was a thing different from anybody else's clothing and a consecrated part of religion for women and apart from everything else and very important is obssessive and sick.

                            THE QUR'AN DOES NOT DO THAT.

                            Muslims, in whichever sense we take the word, will never get anywhere as long as they put women's clothing as a source of anything or a meaning special aside form everything else. Clothing of women is of no more consequence than clothing of men. and what 24.31 says is not about clothing but about an attitude and it is for the sole benefit of women as human beings and not for the benefit of any purported "modesty". By the way a very convenient word "modesty" becuse of its ambivalence you can switch from meaning something to do with decency, sexual decency, to mean humbleness. Very convenient to manipulate women and their feeling of guilt.

                            Here is what I wrote in a thread, -another one of the many hundreds-, on hijab and that crap. The hijab question is no question at all it is crap.

                            Here is what I wrote

                            "It says "yubdina", that is to show, to exhibit, to make obvious. It means that one does not make a show of it, does not make and end of making anything obvious. One thing is that whatever is seen and another thing is that it is shown, displayed, exhibited, paraded. You may wear a silk scarve on your neck, it is seen, but it is not necessarily shown. If you show it, you draw atention to it, you wnt that people detain their look on it observe it, tke notice of it. So it is about not making a show of themselves, not that if a leg is seen it is a sin, or something like that it is to make a show of the legs or of the hair or of whatever, of the breasts even if they are covered, one can make a show of anything even if it is covered. Women are being advised against vanity, which as happens with hips, breasts,etc. in women it is very much encouraged to make it a valuable asset. Women are made to rely a lot on their looks parfticularly the most "feminine" parts of them. That is the whole point. The Qur'an wants women to keep from basing their value on looks nd warns clearly about it."

                            The Qur'an here is not preseving women from indecency but from vanity, from letting themselves be cornered into basing their value, their social value on looks, on being attractive. It does not tell them to clothe this or that part, save for the breasts, but to not exhibit themselves and become a walking shopwindow of themselves for their own sense of self value. For temptations, the Qur'an hs the same recipe for males and females Guard yor privagte parts and lower the gaze. There no different recipe for the sexes, and this is born out very well in Yusuf's story, where a male tempts very much the females to the point of making them harass him sexually, but he keeps his virtue. In spite of that, that the only illustration that the Qur'an gives of sexual temptation is that of man, still women are pounded upon with their looks as something that affects males. Enough is enough. Women should avoid vanity for their own valuable sake, not for any nonsense that obssessed people may invent. Hijab is not in the Qur'an in any form or shape. It is fraudulent to push in.

                            It is the same tactic followed to condone salvery or the sexual femle slaves for the men's "needs". Not to be tempted by women hair, walk or existence seems to be another product of those men "needs" that seem to be the source olf law for many muslims. May for the power thirsty or the obssessed, who may be the same ones, but they hid their power trip behind a purported sexual obssession.

                            What surprises me is that many women still seem to be under the spell of this fraud.

                            Salaam

                            Thank you! There was a good response with a lot of information. So the only thing I need is to go with the scarf in front of your neck and wear clothes that cover?

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                              Salaam Sister

                              Hijab is a pagan pratice. Read history.
                              no hijab in quran.
                              Wearing Hijab is rejection. Wearing Hijab is following what other than god said.

                              Peace

                              Salam!

                              I understand. But the Koran says you must cover the chest, should I use a scarf?

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                                Salam!

                                I understand. But the Koran says you must cover the chest, should I use a scarf?

                                Salaam

                                if you have nothing else, why not a scarf ?.

                                Peace

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                                  Thank you! There was a good response with a lot of information. So the only thing I need is to go with the scarf in front of your neck and wear clothes that cover?

                                  No need tomake things complicated. There are many pieces of clothing in the the shops that cover your breasts. And I think that is for higyiene and comfort. Other than that it is very simple, do not make an exhibit of yourself or of anything of yourself or your appearance, you are not a recreation facility. You are a person. Dress as you feel comfortable and happy with yourself. No need to make a problem or an issue out of it. You do not need to make it more of an issue than anybody elsewould, male or female.

                                  Salaam

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                                    Salam!

                                    I understand. But the Koran says you must cover the chest, should I use a scarf?

                                    A scarf is fine.

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                                      Salam!

                                      I understand. But the Koran says you must cover the chest, should I use a scarf?

                                      Salaam Aaleyah,

                                      If you have already worn a proper cloth such as shirt, blouse, coat that is modest, respectable and does not reveal the cleavages/chests like in this picture, you don't need an extra shawl or scarf to cover your chest.
                                      http//sheownsit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/blouse.jpg

                                      Regards,
                                      Yuliana

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                                        Salam!

                                        Yes I was in the mosque. A Sunni Mosque. But it's not quanrister mosque here. Sad to hear that he experiences it. Terrible that your bully was bullied, it is poorly done.

                                        salaam Aaleyah
                                        Your reply brought a smile to my face. ) However I never call myself Quranist. This is a name adopted by quite a few messed up people, who are using the Qur'an to create a religion, of their own choice, in compliance with modernity(not advanced).

                                        Let me tell you something about myself I have been one stubborn woman, who refused to cover my head. This was mainly out of a refusal to accept the head scarf as the ultimate show of compliance with Islam, and also because of the shallow attitude of many men and women, who think no further than covering their head. As one Arab said about hijabe its not the beginning and its not the end that has always been my mantra I had a good debate with many who wanted me to have my head covered, which of course I didn't. Yet quite a few of them still saw me as a good Muslima.

                                        For me, a person needs to first earn my respect. Then only I will listen to them; no respect no compliance. Simple as that. I came to know al-amiyr in December on this site, and I straight away sensed an exceptional quality of a teacher/Imaam in him, which fitted my expectation and have never seen before, in anyone throughout my life. I have not cashed in on my education, as I always viewed knowledge as a wealth in itself.

                                        I started taking lessons from him, at the same time keeping my eyes open. When I started learning we never discussed the issue of head cover, which is not the same as hijab, as it was not a pre-requsite to learn.

                                        Do you know what happened yesterday? when in this thread I read brother al-amiyr's; ? Reply #1 on Yesterday at 114842 AM
                                        You know what I did? I turned around straight away, and put the scarf by my side, on my head, even though I was at home on my own, today I dug into my wardrobe, and went out as usual, but with head fully covered!

                                        I have great admiration and respect for someone like raspberry red, who at young age is learning properly and going around in hijab without hesitation, whereas for some one of my age taking the hijab is nothing great. I went on for all these years showing off my hair. I was feeling bad about it and asked ALLAAH for forgiveness. As always I got my response from my reading of the Qur'an and so felt better.

                                        Later I remember hadith when after Aiysha's (ra) sister Asma visited Prophet Muhmmad sas showed his disapproval at her style of dressing and was asked how should women dress. He described how they should cover their body up to their hands and cover their heads. Upon hearing that, all the believing women picked what ever was available to cover their heads with; some tore part of material from upholstery around. wow

                                        I also realised that this advice to dress up in certain way came at later time, when Khadija(ra) was dead and Aiysha (ra) had been taken as his last wife, and people understood the meaning of believing men and women.
                                        So from my personal experience I have seen quite a few hadiyth replayed since December 2012, right in front of my eyes which included a woman constantly 'throwing dirt' on brother al-amiyr. hmm

                                        I am sorry for this long post, but sometimes you experience extraordinary things, and like to share it out of excitement. Don't forget to read my first proper lesson on skype with al-amiyr which I will post here on sabath insha'ALLAAH
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                                          Dear Farida,
                                          Since when did God make compulsory for women to wear the headscarf in the Qur'an?

                                          Can you please tell us why women MUST cover their hair whilst men can expose their hair?
                                          Is women hair also the COMPOSITION of woman's body?

                                          Seriously I am sick of this. I am sick of people saying women must cover almost everything, including their hair to honor themselves. So hair is a dishonor?

                                          salaam Aaleyah
                                          Your reply brought a smile to my face. ) However I never call myself Quranist. This is a name adopted by quite a few messed up people, who are using the Qur'an to create a religion, of their own choice, in compliance with modernity(not advanced).

                                          Let me tell you something about myself I have been one stubborn woman, who refused to cover my head. This was mainly out of a refusal to accept the head scarf as the ultimate show of compliance with Islam, and also because of the shallow attitude of many men and women, who think no further than covering their head. As one Arab said about hijabe its not the beginning and its not the end that has always been my mantra I had a good debate with many who wanted me to have my head covered, which of course I didn't. Yet quite a few of them still saw me as a good Muslima. o

                                          For me, a person needs to first earn my respect. Then only I will listen to them; no respect no compliance. Simple as that. I came to know al-amiyr in December on this site, and I straight away sensed an exceptional quality of a teacher/Imaam in him, which fitted my expectation and have never seen before, in anyone throughout my life. I have not cashed in on my education, as I always viewed knowledge as a wealth in itself.

                                          I started taking lessons from him, at the same time keeping my eyes open. When I started learning we never discussed the issue of head cover, which is not the same as hijab, as it was not a pre-requsite to learn.

                                          Do you know what happened yesterday? when in this thread I read brother al-amiyr's; ? Reply #1 on Yesterday at 114842 AM
                                          You know what I did? I turned around straight away, and put the scarf by my side, on my head, even though I was at home on my own, today I dug into my wardrobe, and went out as usual, but with head fully covered!

                                          I have great admiration and respect for someone like raspberry red, who at young age is learning properly and going around in hijab without hesitation, whereas for some one of my age taking the hijab is nothing great. I went on for all these years showing off my hair. I was feeling bad about it and asked ALLAAH for forgiveness. As always I got my response from my reading of the Qur'an and so felt better.

                                          Later I remember hadith when after Aiysha's (ra) sister Asma visited Prophet Muhmmad sas showed his disapproval at her style of dressing and was asked how should women dress. He described how they should cover their body up to their hands and cover their heads. Upon hearing that, all the believing women picked what ever was available to cover their heads with; some tore part of material from upholstery around. wow

                                          I also realised that this advice to dress up in certain way came at later time, when Khadija(ra) was dead and Aiysha (ra) had been taken as his last wife, and people understood the meaning of believing men and women.
                                          So from my personal experience I have seen quite a few hadiyth replayed since December 2012, right in front of my eyes which included a woman constantly 'throwing dirt' on brother al-amiyr. hmm

                                          I am sorry for this long post, but sometimes you experience extraordinary things, and like to share it out of excitement. Don't forget to read my first proper lesson on skype with al-amiyr which I will post here on sabath insha'ALLAAH
                                          salaam +
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