What is Islam?

muslims

Salam Bender, handshake

Alhamdullillah, I believe Allah give me enough knowledge to understand what AlAsma AlHusna are.

So what is your definition of "Asma Ul Husna", and which is common to all Muslims understandings?

I've already repeated the same question for many times. nope

If you mean to refute the traditional 99 names, then my reference is ofcourse The Quran, what else?

Where did I say I didn't refer to the traditional 99 names?

Since when Muslims have the "traditional Asma Ul Husna" and "modern Asma Ul Husna"?

You didn't understand after I repeatedly answer your question below? hmm

Quote from Bender on August 26, 2013, 082632 AM
Salaamun alayka,

Do you have a verse for this statement?

Quote from muslims on August 26, 2013, 085851 AM
Not specifically and I'm referring to the asma ul husna.

Quote from muslims on August 26, 2013, 090639 PM
As I said, the "asma ul husna"

Quote from muslims on August 27, 2013, 084844 PM
It is true, the specific words are not in the Qur'an

Please give me a reference to your new version of "Asma Ul Husna".

If so yes I was born in Morocco.

What does "Asma Ul Husna" referred to in Morocco?

Is it not the same 99 names of Allah as Muslims understands today?

"Who can succeed Allah?" was a rhetorical question in case you did not understood that.
My whole point in the discussion with drfazl is that Allah has NO khalifa.
230 says He will place a successor on earth, NOT His successor nope BUT A successor yes.
Because 230 and other verses NEVER say MY successor, it is for sure it is not a successor who succeeds Allah, but a successor who succeeds something/one else.
THUS not related to Allah.

It is weird when you are trying to make a point by comparing Allah with or as equal to human. nope

Secondly, where did I say I refute the whole argument?

I'm specifically referring to your statement and the issue of "successor" and "who can succeed Allah"

Do you understand what is a "successor" in (<a href="http//quran.com/2/30">230</a&gt?

There is no issue who can succeed Allah.

It is not about who can succeed Allah, it is about succeed those who have come before Adam.

I believe the word successor is referring to the following facts, They (angels) said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood" (<a href="http//quran.com/2/30">230</a&gt. Thus, Adam (and his descendants) are part of His creation and which succeeds those who have come before them.

Therefore, what difference does it make to Allah whether it is "a successor" or "My successor"? What's it got to do with to succeed Allah?

Peace brother.

Bender

Salam Bender, handshake

So what is your definition of "Asma Ul Husna",

Salaamun alayka,

My definition of AlAsma AlHusna = The Best Identifiers

In The Quran AlAsma AlHusna is always referring to Allah, for example
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The red word is spoken as "Lahu" and it means something like "To Him belongs". Thus "The Best Identifiers" belong to Him.
Where can we find AlAsma AlHusna that belong to Him?

answer
Allah warns us several times in The Quran that His Guidance is The Guidance (2120).
The Quran is one of the guidance's Allah sent down on us (2185 in combination with 1037).
Wikipedia and Bukarie & Co can not be proven from the verses of The Quran that they are a guidance sent by Allah to us, therefore I dismiss them as a reference in any matter when we talk about the truth. In this case we (you and me) are talking about Allah, therefore I am not allowed to say something about Allah which is not from Him. I fear to spread lies about Allah. Allah warrens me through The Quran not to spread lies about Him. Wikipedia and Bukharie & co are not from Allah but The Quran is. Therefore if you like to talk with me about Allah then please use verses from The Quran to proof your point everything else is of no use for me.

Al3adl does not refer to Allah a single time in The Quran. But it refers to other things besides Allah. So why should I take it an AlAsma AlHusna if it never refers to Allah in the Quran? Is it because Wiki and Bukharie & Co said so?
Both question are rhetorical questions in case of....

This is how I understand it, I think I have answered you more then you asked. And inshaAllah it is now clear to you how I understand AlAsma AlHusna.
If you have a different view on the matter then that is totally ok with me and we will end this discussion as we will never agree handshake

and which is common to all Muslims understandings?

I think the 99 names mentioned on this link is common to all Muslims IF you meant with Muslims the sunni/shia/etc. people.

I've already repeated the same question for many times. nope

No you did not.
I can not read your brains so when you ask me something ask me very clear.
You did not ask me the above questions a single time.

Where did I say I didn't refer to the traditional 99 names?

what is this?
Are we playing a "were did I say that ...?" game?
You are putting again words in my mouth and then ask me a "were did I say that ...?" question.
Please stop it.

Since when Muslims have the "traditional Asma Ul Husna" and "modern Asma Ul Husna"?

I don't know about other Muslims, I can only talk for myself.

You didn't understand after I repeatedly answer your question below? hmm

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Please give me a reference to your new version of "Asma Ul Husna".

A couple of weeks ago I made this thread .
Above the two lines are as per my current understanding AlAsma Alhusna that belong to Him.
Maybe I forgot some, but that is what I could find till now. If you think I missed one then please let me know with a reference to the Quran verse and I will add it inshaAllah, this is not only for you but for everyone who reads this, thx!!!

Also this is how I currently understand, if you have a better version then please let me know and I will be inshaAllah the first one to acknowledge if I can comprehend how you or someone else sees it.

What does "Asma Ul Husna" referred to in Morocco?

see the wiki link above, I believe the majority of Moroccans believe in the Wiki version.

Is it not the same 99 names of Allah as Muslims understands today?

No not how I understand it, Allah showed me a different view.

It is weird when you are trying to make a point by comparing Allah with or as equal to human. nope

What are you talking about?
I do not understand why it is so hard for you to understand what I was saying.

For everyone who is reading this looooong boring post
Is there anyone besides "muslims" who understood what I wrote as "comparing Allah with or as equal to human"?

Therefore, what difference does it make to Allah whether it is "a successor" or "My successor"?

I already gave you in the post before this my view, but you did not understand what I was saying so I think we have to handshake because repeating what I said will not change anything I guess.

What's it got to do with to succeed Allah?

same answer as above, I have nothing to add more.

Peace brother.

salaam,
Bender

ps if you do not mind this was my last post to you on this thread. If you answer, I will read inshaAllah your post, but you have to excuse me for not replying anymore, I am a little bit tired.

muslims

Salam Bender,

It is clear that you know what I'm talking about, but maybe it's just you want to show you are superior than others, without any valid or proper reasons. In fact, I repeatedly told you what I'm referring to.

Salaamun alayka,
Do you have a verse for this statement?

Quote from muslims on August 26, 2013, 085851 AM
Not specifically and I'm referring to the asma ul husna.

Quote from muslims on August 26, 2013, 090639 PM
As I said, the "asma ul husna"

Quote from muslims on August 27, 2013, 084844 PM
It is true, the specific words are not in the Qur'an

and when I asked you ... whether you understand what I means with Asma Ul Husna

So what is your definition of "Asma Ul Husna", and which is common to all Muslims understandings?

What does "Asma Ul Husna" referred to in Morocco?

Is it not the same 99 names of Allah as Muslims understands today?

here is your answer...

I think the 99 names mentioned on this link is common to all Muslims IF you meant with Muslims the sunni/shia/etc. people.

see the wiki link above, I believe the majority of Moroccans believe in the Wiki version.

It is clear that you just want to be right or want to be superior to others without valid reasons.

Further, who are discussing your definition of Asma Ul Husna? Did I ask you?

and where is the word "AlAsma AlHusna" in the following verse?

Did you really understand what you read?

My definition of AlAsma AlHusna = The Best Identifiers

In The Quran AlAsma AlHusna is always referring to Allah, for example
208
The red word is spoken as "Lahu" and it means something like "To Him belongs". Thus "The Best Identifiers" belong to Him.

According to you, Asma Ul Husna is "To Him belongs" or "The Best Identifiers" ? hmm

"Lahu" is not Allah names, and neither is the "The Best Identifiers".

This is how I understand it, I think I have answered you more then you asked. And inshaAllah it is now clear to you how I understand AlAsma AlHusna.

For everyone who is reading this looooong boring post

handshake

Peace brother.

nonplus

Salam Bender,

It is clear that you know what I'm talking about, but maybe it's just you want to show you are superior than others, without any valid or proper reasons. In fact, I repeatedly told you what I'm referring to.

and when I asked you ... whether you understand what I means with Asma Ul Husna

here is your answer...

It is clear that you just want to be right or want to be superior to others without valid reasons.

Further, who are discussing your definition of Asma Ul Husna? Did I ask you?

and where is the word "AlAsma AlHusna" in the following verse?

Did you really understand what you read?

According to you, Asma Ul Husna is "To Him belongs" or "The Best Identifiers" ? hmm

"Lahu" is not Allah names.

Even the "The Best Identifiers" is not Allah names.

handshake

Peace brother.

"AlAsma AlHusna" are the two (2) words after "Lahu". He explained clearly what "Lahu" means and why he highlighted it.

Also the point about "khalifa" was delivered very clearly, too.

muslims

"AlAsma AlHusna" are the two (2) words after "Lahu". He explained clearly what "Lahu" means and why he highlighted it.

Also the point about "khalifa" was delivered very clearly, too.

Salam,

Sorry my mistake, what I meant is the names, Allah's names. "Lahu" and "The Best Identifiers" are not Allah names, neither is AlAsma AlHusna. Further, my reference is to the "Asma Ul Husna" understood by the majority of Muslim, and "The Best Identifiers" is not necessarily specific names, but can also be in general; such as Allah The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

Peace brother.

nonplus

Salam,

Sorry my mistake, what I meant is the names, Allah's names. "Lahu" and "The Best Identifiers" are not Allah names, neither is AlAsma AlHusna. Further, my reference is to the "Asma Ul Husna" understood by the majority of Muslim, and "The Best Identifiers" is not necessarily specific names, but can also be in general; such as Allah The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

Peace brother.

Can you please show a reference from the Quran where God calls himself "Al-`Adl"? This way, Bender can add it to his great list.

muslims

Can you please show a reference from the Quran where God calls himself "Al-`Adl"? This way, Bender can add it to his great list.

Salam nonplus,

You can understand our discussion by clicking on the following links.

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336345#msg336345

Quote from Bender on August 26, 2013, 082632 AM

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Allah The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604

Salaamun alayka,

Do you have a verse for this statement?

Quote from muslims on August 26, 2013, 085851 AM
Not specifically and I'm referring to the asma ul husna.

Quote from muslims on August 26, 2013, 090639 PM
As I said, the "asma ul husna"

Quote from muslims on August 27, 2013, 084844 PM
It is true, the specific words are not in the Qur'an

"The Best Identifiers" is not necessarily specific names, but can also be in general; such as Allah The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

The root 'a-d-l has the following classical Arabic connotations

to act justly, fairly
to be equitable, impartial
to adjust properly, to make even
to straighten, to rectify, to establish justice
to balance, counterbalance, to make equal, uniform
to turn one away from something, rightly direct
to make comfortable with what is right

The One who rectifies and sets matters straight in a fair, impartial and equitable manner.
The One who always acts justly.
The One who delivers absolute justice.
The One whose wisdom of justice is based upon complete knowledge of past, present and future.

Peace brother.

muslims

The destructive aspect of the fire element.

The importance of Spirituality (water) & Communication/Humanism (Air) Salt water oceans make up 71% of the Earth?s surface. However, it should exceed 71% if it includes the freshwater lakes and glaciers that cover the Earth?s surface. The air is everywhere and takes up space. These indicate the importance of spirituality and communication or humanism in our life.

The core of the Earth is fire (religion/God Alone ideas etc.) and relates to the following concept, "Mind our own business" (<a href="http//quran.com/5/105">5105</a&gt. This because if we are giving primary importance to the fire elements, it will burn this whole world down. War and hatred etc., and soon there will be no living creatures on Earth.

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muslims

The Common Aspects of Religions

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muslims

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Towards Human Unity

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335929#msg335929">Tests from Allah</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335256#msg335256">Main Issue</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">What is God Alone Religion? </a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335690#msg335690">Defintion of Just and Balance (Sunnatullah)</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335855#msg335855">What is Islam?</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Prostrate to Adam</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336532#msg336532">The Common Aspects of Religions.</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335571#msg335571">Which is the right religion ?</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336528#msg336528">The destructive aspect of the fire element.</a>

Islam is not a religion (madhab)

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335361#msg335361">Islam A Challenge to Religion</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335823#msg335823">The Quranic Concept of Salvation</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335261#msg335261">Allah will never accept Religion of Islam</a>

Examle of Deen <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336008#msg336008">1</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335737#msg335737">2</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335738#msg335738">3</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335739#msg335739">4</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335740#msg335740">5</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335741#msg335741">6</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335742#msg335742">7</a>.

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335531#msg335531">Purpose of creation</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335579#msg335579">What is "Sirat al-Mustaqim"?</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">What does Adam represent?</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Descendants of Adam.</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335266#msg335266">Who is a Muslim?</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335603#msg335603">The "DO NOT" prohibition</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336452#msg336452">Hadith & Sects.</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336423#msg336423">Sura</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336428#msg336428">Prohibition</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335928#msg335928">Impossible for people who i'tiqad to disobey Allah to enter Paradise.</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Muslim Job Scope</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">Purpose of Life</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335891#msg335891">Alhamdu</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">Allah Alone is no use for our salvation</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336010#msg336010">Duty Awareness Program (Deen)</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">What is Right or Wrong?</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336077#msg336077">The Qur'an is about us.</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335263#msg335263">Duty To Ourselves</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335265#msg335265">Understanding The Quran</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335283#msg335283">Language of the Heart</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335515#msg335515">What is Reality?</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335521#msg335521">(2)</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335524#msg335524">(3)</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335788#msg335788">Qur'an is an introductory Book, Guidance or Manual.</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335810#msg335810">Signs</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">Pleasure</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336130#msg336130">Dictionary of the Qur'an</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Solat</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335474#msg335474">True Solat is Jihad?</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for Success</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335483#msg335483">First Step - Fire</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Formula for Unity - Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335880#msg335880">Towards Human Unity</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335750#msg335750">Unconditional Freedom</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336189#msg336189">The Flow of Ideas</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336234#msg336234">Example of Quranic Ideas</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336219#msg336219">Ideas of Just and Balance</a>

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336265#msg336265">When Being Wrong Is Right</a>

muslims

<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">The Matrix of Just and Balance For Our Salvation</a>

Allah has promised
those who have believed among you <- 100% obedience
and done righteous deeds <- towards human unity

that He will surely grant them succession upon the earth
just as He granted it to those before them

and that He will surely establish for them their deen
which He has preferred for them

and that He will surely substitute for them
after their fear
security

they worship Me
not associating anything with Me

But whoever disbelieves after that
then those are the defiantly disobedient
(<a href="http//quran.com/24/55">2455</a&gt

Ignominy shall be their portion
wheresoever they are found

save (where they grasp)

a rope from Allah <- 100% obedience
and
a rope from men <- towards human unity
(<a href="http//quran.com/3/112">3112</a&gt

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<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">negotiator - mediator - conciliator</a>

Sponsor two friends..

Obedience (Qur'an Study Group -> solely for listing and observing the "DO NOT" prohibition)
Works toward unity or promoting peace and harmony in...

-> Family

-> Friends

-> Customers & Employees (Your Business) or Co-workers -> Treat them as your family.
(<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for success</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Salat</a&gt

this forum or any other platform or NGO could exist as monitoring to training center etc.
Strictly to promote unity, peace and harmony. Must not involve politics and religious agenda etc.

The Theory
Towards Human Unity
Peace and Harmony

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Just and Balance
Peace & Harmony
in the society

For example Very Large Scale

Level Team
1 2
2 4
3 8
4 16
5 32
6 64
7 128
8 256
9 512
10 1,024
11 2,048
12 4,096
13 8,192
14 16,384
15 32,768
16 65,536
17 131,072
18 262,144
19 524,288
20 1,048,576
21 2,097,152
22 4,194,304
23 8,388,608
24 16,777,216
25 33,554,432
26 67,108,864
27 134,217,728
28 268,435,456
29 536,870,912
30 1,073,741,824
31 2,147,483,648
32 4,294,967,296
33 8,589,934,592
34 17,179,869,184
35 34,359,738,368
36 68,719,476,736
37 137,438,953,472
38 274,877,906,944
39 549,755,813,888
40 1,099,511,627,776
41 2,199,023,255,552
42 4,398,046,511,104
43 8,796,093,022,208
44 17,592,186,044,416
45 35,184,372,088,832
46 70,368,744,177,664
47 140,737,488,355,328
48 281,474,976,710,656
49 562,949,953,421,312
50 1,125,899,906,842,620

How many persons to monitor at level 50?

100 persons!

You
(each will do the same)
+-----------+
Level 1 -> 1 1
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Level 50 -> 1 1
Total 50 ppls + 50 ppls
Total 100 persons

Question.. <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">how to simplify and standardize?</a>

muslims

Towards human unity...

He has made plain to you <-- What is Islam
of the Din (l-dni)
what He enjoined upon Nuh
and that which We have revealed to you
and that which We enjoined upon Ibrahim
and Musa
and Isa
that keep to obedience <- 100% obedience
and be not divided therein < towards human unity

... .. . . . .

To this then go on inviting <-- Task for Muslims
and go on steadfastly <- refer to the above sponsorship program - Duty Awareness
on the right way
as you are commanded
and do not follow their low desires <- don't argue with them, focus on unity, peace and harmony
and say What is a Mushrikeen? (<a href="http//quran.com/30/30-32">3030-32</a&gt

I believe in what Allah has revealed of the Book
and I am commanded to do justice between you <-- role as Mediators and Conciliators
Allah is our Lord and your Lord vs. Provoker & create more divisions
we shall have our deeds
and you shall have your deeds
no plea need there be (now) between us and you <- no argument! ignore right/wrong &
Allah will gather us together focus on unity, peace and harmony
and to Him is the return

(<a href="http//quran.com/42/10-16">4210-16</a&gt

A Muslim must now learn how to become Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator. There is no religion and it is not about to spread Islam, since Islam is not a religion. It is about to spread peace, harmony and unity in the society. It's about benefiting humanity, kindness to His creation and giving to relatives. This is how people from different backgrounds and traditions are able to accept Islam by our Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Unconditional acceptance (respect) of world religious practices and balancing what is just to every living creatures. This is "Din of Islam".

muslims

Why the matrix?

The power of leverage.. opt and opm.

Sponsor two friends..

Obedience (Qur'an Study Group -> solely for listing and observing the "DO NOT" prohibition)
Works toward unity or promoting peace and harmony in...

-> Family

-> Friends

-> Customers & Employees (Your Business) or Co-workers -> Treat them as your family.
(<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for success</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Salat</a&gt

this forum or any other platform or NGO could exist as monitoring to training center etc.
Strictly to promote unity, peace and harmony. Must not involve politics and religious agenda etc.

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bilateral matrix, prostrate to Allah and Adam (<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">descendants</a&gt...

and

How Allah will multiplies His reward for your effort, time and money spend on your family, friends and customers etc.. to promote unity, peace, harmony, and supporting them emotionally, psychologically, financially, socially and etc.

The example of those who spend their wealth
in the way of Allah
is like a seed <- you
which grows seven spikes <- the above image, 7 persons - first group
in each spike is a hundred grains <- 100 persons straight below you
And Allah multiplies for whom He wills
And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
(<a href="http//quran.com/2/261">2261</a&gt

100 grains

How many persons to monitor at level 50?

100 persons!

Steps - "We Are Family"

You -> benefiting your family, friends and your customers/employees/co-workers -> as your family!
(regardless of religion, caste, race, socio-economic background etc .. including non-human - jinn)
7 persons -> 2 (your team) + 5 (sponsor your member to build their team, exemplary leadership)
help 100 persons straight below you (to strengthen your foundation)
spread... "..Allah multiplies for whom He wills.."

muslims

For you is your deen
(War Zone - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">God Alone</a> - Right vs. Wrong)
and
For me is my deen
(Unity - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Prostrate to Adam</a> - All from Allah and "I Submit&quot
(<a href="http//quran.com/109/6">1096</a&gt

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Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

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Now, just a philosophical statement... as to the meaning of solat

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Jihad Salat

And those who believe in Allah and His Messengers
they are the Siddiqun
and the martyrs (syahid) with their Lord
they shall have their reward and their light
But those who disbelieve
and deny Our Ayat (disobedience)
they shall be the dwellers of the blazing Fire
(<a href="http//quran.com/57/19">5719</a&gt

al-amiyr

+salaam brother muslims

All your works are beautiful. Great thoughts behind them. And more than most I see a very sincere man who loves ALLAAH. Again, I enjoy reading all your work. You have great skill in setting out knowledge. I can learn a lot from you in this regard. Thank you for sharing them.

+salaam
al-amiyr

muslims

+salaam brother muslims

All your works are beautiful. Great thoughts behind them. And more than most I see a very sincere man who loves ALLAAH. Again, I enjoy reading all your work. You have great skill in setting out knowledge. I can learn a lot from you in this regard. Thank you for sharing them.

+salaam
al-amiyr

+salaam brother al-amiyr

Thank you and you are also a great thinker and I'm learning a lot from you. We do our best to "Salat".

+salaam
muslims

al-amiyr

+salaam brother al-amiyr

Thank you and you are also a great thinker and I'm learning a lot from you. We do our best to "Salat".

+salaam
muslims

+salaam+ brother muslims

As you said that you learn -good and bad- so have I in all my life. I have denied myself the investigation of no information-good and bad. Also I have always changed my views for the better in the presence of valid arguments. I have also always loved debate and have always presented my arguments for solid criticism so that I could learn how to improve it for the better. I have no doubt in my mind that ALLAAH has a plan for you which will become manifest to you when the time is right inshaa ALLAAH. Continue on your journey to seek all knowledge! Justly balanced!

+salaam
al-amiyr

muslims

+salaam+ brother muslims

As you said that you learn -good and bad- so have I in all my life. I have denied myself the investigation of no information-good and bad. Also I have always changed my views for the better in the presence of valid arguments. I have also always loved debate and have always presented my arguments for solid criticism so that I could learn how to improve it for the better. I have no doubt in my mind that ALLAAH has a plan for you which will become manifest to you when the time is right inshaa ALLAAH. Continue on your journey to seek all knowledge! Justly balanced!

+salaam
al-amiyr

+salaam+ brother al-amiyr

There is nothing wrong with to deny good or bad. It is also "Justly balanced!", for each of us and all living creatures. It doesn't matter which side we are today. However, we just need to let Allah control our lives and enjoy our rides.

+salaam
muslims

muslims

Beyond Religion -> Sunnatullah

DIN?this word has been used in various contexts, among them being ascendancy, sovereignty, management, conduct of affairs, ruling power, mastership, ownership, exercise of power, code of law, constitution, law of requital, an order. The Quran has described Islam as Ad-Din, which is generally translated as religion. However, in the light of the above meanings, it should be clear that this is not only incorrect, but distorts and negates the very meaning of din. Islam is not a religion (madhab), and it has never been described as one in the Quran. Islam is a way of life, a system, a code of law. In the external universe Islam signifies the Divine Order that governs life and the movement of the entire universe. The whole purpose of the Quran is to establish a universal order based on the Divinely ordained values of life. This is ad-din; <a href="http//www.tolueislam.org/Parwez/ICR/ICR.htm">Islam A Challenge to Religion</a>

Say, "O disbelievers,

I do not worship what you worship <- Prostrate to God Alone, accordingly, any god/religion.
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship <- Prostrate to Allah & Adam (Humanity), Sunnatullah.

Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship <- Religious People & God Alone Concept.
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship <- Upright man - Unity, regardless of religion etc.

For you is your deen <- Religion - Right or wrong - Fire Element.
and for me is my deen <- Deen - Unity - Sunnatullah - Justly balanced - Fire/Earth/Air/Water.
(109)

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but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
a Muslim <- defined by the above ayat - an upright man - obedience and justly balanced.
and he was not one of the polytheists <- Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim
are those
who followed him
and this Prophet
and those who believe
and Allah is the guardian of the believers
(367-6

And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <- Religion of Islam vs. Deen of Islam
it will NEVER be accepted of him
and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
(385)

muslims

Comparison

A comparative study of religion or madhhab, and din, should help us understand the vital and fundamental characteristics of each and the differences between the two

Madhhab is merely some sort of subjective experience and is concerned only with the so-called private relationship between God and man.

Din is an objective reality and a system of collective life.

Every follower of a madhhab is satisfied that he has established a communion with the Almighty, and the objective of each individual is his own salvation.

The aim of din on the other hand is the welfare and progress of all mankind, and the character and constitution of a society indicates whether or not it is founded upon the Divine Law.

Madhhab does not afford us any objective. criterion by which we could determine whether or not our actions are producing the desired results.

In a social order governed by din, the development of a collective and harmonious life correctly indicates whether or not the people are pursuing the right course.

Madhhab is hostile to scientific investigation and is an adversary of reason, so that it could flourish unhampered with the aid of a blind faith.

Din helps in the development of human reason and knowledge, allows full freedom to accept or reject on the basis of reason and arguments, and encourages investigation and discovery of all the natural phenomena to illumine the path of human life and its advancement in the light of the Permanent Values.

Madhhab follows the susceptibilities and prejudices of men and pampers them.

Din seeks to lead men to a path of life that is in harmony with the realities of life.

In every age, therefore, madhhab sets up new idols and mumbo-jumbos in order to keep the people's attention away from the real problems of life.

But din is rational and radical it breaks all idols, old and new, and is never variable in its principles.

Madhhab induces a perpetual sense of fear in the minds of men and seeks to frighten them into conformity;

While din treats fear as a form of polytheism and seeks to make men courageous, daring and self-reliant.

Madhhab prompts men to bow before every seat of authority and prestige, religious as well as temporal.

Din encourages man to walk about with his head erect, and attain self-confidence.

Madhhab induces man to flee from struggle of life.

But din calls upon him to face the realities of life squarely, whatever the hazards.

Madhhab treats the world of matter with contempt and calls upon man to renounce it. It promises paradise only in the Hereafter as a reward for the renunciation of the material world.

Din, on the other hand, enjoins the conquest of matter and leads man to immeasurable heights of attainment. It exhorts him to seek well-being and happiness in this world as well as felicity in the life Hereafter.

Madhhab encourages belief in fatalism, and this tends to dissuade man from active life and self-development.

Din gives man power to challenge fate, and provides energy for a life of activity and self-development.

Madhhab seeks to comfort the weak, the helpless and the oppressed with the belief that the affairs of this world are governed by the Will of God and that its acceptance and resignation helps to endear them to God. This sort of teaching naturally tends to morbidity, and emboldens their religious leaders who profess to interpret the Will of God, so that they indulge in their misdeeds with perfect impunity and persuade the adherents to a complete and quiet submission.

Din, on the other hand, raises the banner of revolt against all forms of tyranny and exploitation. It calls upon the weak and the oppressed to follow the Divine Laws and thereby seek to establish a social order in which all tyrants and oppressors will be forced to accept the dictates of right and justice. In this social order, there is no place for dictators, capitalists or priests. They are all enemies of din.

Madhhab enjoins religious meditation in the name of worship and thus induces self-deception.

Din exhorts men to assert themselves and struggle perpetually for the establishment of the Divine Social Order, and its betterment when attained. Worship in din really means obedience to the Laws of God.

Madhhab frowns and sneers at all things of art and beauty.

Din defies those who forbid the enjoyment of the good and beautiful things of life which God has created for the enjoyment of man.

Madhhab denounces everything new and declares all innovation as sin.

Din holds that the needs and demands of human life keep changing with the change in the conditions of life; change and innovation are, therefore, demanded by life itself. Only the Divine Laws are immutable.

It should now be easy for us to see the fundamental difference between din and madhhab. Islam means saying "Yes" to life; while the response of religion is "No"!