How to determine Months according to Brother Noon waalqalami ?
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Peace be with thee,
12 is a good number.
God bless you
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12 is a good number.
Peace Man of Faith, there's nothing good or evil about any number.
Now back to the topic.
Was observing the full moon tonight and it became very clear.
It is not 12 each solar year and nowhere mentioned in Qur'an.936 surely count al-shwr/the lunar cycles near the god two ten (i.e. twelve) shra/lunar cycle of in book the god day creation the heavens and the earth from it four prohibited such the practice the value so not wrong yeh in them souls yours and fight yeh the idolaters all as what they fight you all and know yeh that the god with the righteous
105 he the one made the sun illuminate and the moon a light and calculated it (masculine i.e. moon) phases to know yeh number al-snyn/the seasons and the account not create the god such except in the truth expounds the signs for folk knowing
1712 and made we the night and the daylight two signs so erased we sign the night and made we sign the daylight visible that may seek yeh bounty from lord yours and know yeh number al-snyn/the seasons and the account and every thing explained we it detailed
The question if one awakes on remote island/desert scenario; it's simple...
Full Moon Dates 2005
Year MTH Day #
2005 Jan 25 1 date of event chosen at random; awoke on island/desert or any event birth, wedding, etc.
2005 Feb 24 2
2005 Mar 25 3
2005 Apr 24 4
2005 May 23 5
2005 Jun 22 6 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle 2185 shr/lunar cycle ramadan (heat)
2005 Jul 21 7 1 End 1st lunar cycle 2197 the hajj ashr/lunar cycles well-known
2005 Aug 19 8 2 End 2nd
2005 Sep 18 9 3 End 3rd
2005 Oct 17 10 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2005 Nov 16 11
2005 Dec 15 12Full Moon Dates 2006
Year MTH Day #
2006 Jan 14 1 1st anniversary of event; 354 days//lunar year
2006 Feb 13 2
2006 Mar 14 3
2006 Apr 13 4
2006 May 13 5
2006 Jun 11 6
]2006 Jul 11 7 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2006 Aug 9 8 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2006 Sep 7 9 2 End 2nd
2006 Oct 7 10 3 End 3rd
2006 Nov 5 11 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2006 Dec 5 12Full Moon Dates 2007
Year MTH Day #
2007 Jan 3 1 2nd anniversary of event; 728 days/2 lunar years
2007 Feb 2 2
2007 Mar 3 3
2007 Apr 2 4
2007 May 2 5
2007 Jun 1 6
]2007 Jun 30 7 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2007 Jul 30 8 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2007 Aug 28 9 2 End 2nd
2007 Sep 26 10 3 End 3rd
2007 Oct 26 11 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2007 Nov 24 12
2007 Dec 24 1 3rd anniversary of event; 1063 days/3 lunar yearsFull Moon Dates 2008
Year MTH Day #
2008 Jan 22 2
2008 Feb 21 3
2008 Mar 21 4
2008 Apr 20 5
2008 May 20 6
2008 Jun 18 7
]2008 Jul 18 8 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2008 Aug 16 9 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2008 Sep 15 10 2 End 2nd
2008 Oct 14 11 3 End 3rd
2008 Nov 13 12 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2008 Dec 12 1 4th anniversary of event; 1417 days/4 lunar yearsFull Moon Dates 2009
Year MTH Day #
2009 Jan 11 2
2009 Feb 9 3
2009 Mar 11 4
2009 Apr 9 5
2009 May 9 6
]2009 Jun 7 7 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2009 Jul 7 8 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2009 Aug 6 9 2 End 2nd
2009 Sep 4 10 3 End 3rd
2009 Oct 4 11 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2009 Nov 2 12
2009 Dec 2 1 5th anniversary of event; 1772 days/5 lunar years
2009 Dec 31 2Full Moon Dates 2010
Year MTH Day #
2010 Jan 30 3
2010 Feb 28 4
2010 Mar 30 5
2010 Apr 28 6
2010 May 27 7
]2010 Jun 26 8 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2010 Jul 26 9 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2010 Aug 24 10 2 End 2nd
2010 Sep 23 11 3 End 3rd
2010 Oct 23 12 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2010 Nov 21 1 6th anniversary of event; 2126 days/6 lunar years
2010 Dec 21 2Full Moon Dates 2011
Year MTH Day #
2011 Jan 19 3
2011 Feb 18 4
2011 Mar 19 5
2011 Apr 18 6
2011 May 17 7
2011 Jun 15 8
]2011 Jul 15 9 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2011 Aug 13 10 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2011 Sep 12 11 2 End 2nd
2011 Oct 12 12 3 End 3rd
2011 Nov 10 1 4 End 4th prohibited cycle (7th anniversary of event; 2480 days/7 lunar years
2011 Dec 10 2Full Moon Dates 2012
Year MTH Day #
2012 Jan 9 3
2012 Feb 7 4
2012 Mar 8 5
2012 Apr 6 6
2012 May 6 7
2012 Jun 4 8
]2012 Jul 3 9 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2012 Aug 2 10 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2012 Aug 31 11 2 End 2nd
2012 Sep 30 12 3 End 3rd
2012 Oct 29 1 4 End 4th prohibited cycle (8th anniversary of event; 2834 days/8 lunar years
2012 Nov 28 2
2012 Dec 28 3Full Moon Dates 2013
Year MTH Day #
2013 Jan 27 4
2013 Feb 25 5
2013 Mar 27 6
2013 Apr 25 7
2013 May 25 8
]2013 Jun 23 9 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, prohibited cycle
2013 Jul 22 10 1 End 1st
2013 Aug 21 11 2 End 2nd
2013 Sep 19 12 3 End 3rd
2013 Oct 19 1 4 End 4th prohibited cycle -- today (9th anniversary of event; 3189 days/9 lunar years
2013 Nov 17 2
2013 Dec 17 3 -
Salaam,
Nothing evil, but some are nice numbers -)
God bless you
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Nothing evil, but some are nice numbers -)
Peace, yes perhaps in context of nice number as in paycheck. )
Hope everyone understood post above in that the lunar cycles to know time (e.g. lunar months, years) which vary at any day or lunar phase run separate i.e. 12 in lunar year don't have to correlate exactly to prohibited lunar cycles which they are always the first 4 after the summer solstice easily determined anywhere in the world even after waking from a deep sleep on a remote deserted island; no need to ask anyone when exactly is ramadan (lunar cycle of heat), hajj, prohibited cycles/period, etc.
936 surely count al-shwr/the lunar cycles near the god two ten (i.e. twelve) shra/lunar cycle of in book the god day creation the heavens and the earth from it four prohibited...
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Full Moon Dates 2013
Year MTH Day #
2013 Jan 27 4
2013 Feb 25 5
2013 Mar 27 6
2013 Apr 25 7
2013 May 25 8
]2013 Jun 23 9 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, prohibited cycle
2013 Jul 22 10 1 End 1st
2013 Aug 21 11 2 End 2nd
2013 Sep 19 12 3 End 3rd
2013 Oct 19 1 4 End 4th prohibited cycle -- today (9th anniversary of event; 3189 days/9 lunar years
2013 Nov 17 2
2013 Dec 17 3 -
Peace brother Wakas,
However, I disagree with
See http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605648.0This seems to confirm that the "biggest feast" is the fourth one
- An acquittal/release from The God and His messenger to those with whom you made a treaty from among the polytheists.
- Therefore, roam the earth for FOUR full-moons and know that you will not escape The God, and that The God will disgrace the ungrateful/rejecters.
So we are now at the fourth full-moon, where the biggest feast takes place
- And an announcement from The God and His messenger to the people on the greatest day of the feast "The God is quit/free from the polytheists and so is His messenger". If you repent, then it is better for you, and if you turn away, then know that you will not escape The God. And give news to those who conceal/reject of a painful retribution.
- Except for those with whom you had a treaty from among the polytheists if they did not reduce anything from it nor did they plan to attack you; you shall continue the treaty with them until its expiry. Truly, The God loves the forethoughtful/conscientious.
Remember that the waning crescent times the end of the period of the feast and the restriction (the 10 day period). So the following passage talks about the passing that includes the end of the restricted period, 10 days later after the day of the bigggest feast
- So when the inviolable full-moons are passed, then you may fight the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and uphold/maintain the salat and bring forth the betterment, then clear/vacate their way/path. Truly, The God is Turning/Forgiving, Embracing/Merciful.
What do you make of 2217, see http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9188.msg333873#msg333873
2217 talks about the period spanning the four inviolable full-moons (fighting in them). While in 2185, the full-moon is talked about as a marker (fast it or according to it).
Peace,
Ayman
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peace brother Ayman,
2217 talks about the period spanning the four inviolable full-moons (fighting in them). While in 2185, the full-moon is talked about as a marker (fast it or according to it).
I understand your explanation but in 2217 it is singular.
2217 asks about the inviolable shahr/full-moon is there fighting in it
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peace brother Ayman,
I understand your explanation but in 2217 it is singular.
Peace Wakas, yes and how "in it" can refer to single full-moon?
2217 they asking you about al-shr/the lunar cycle (singular) the haraam/prohibited fight in it say fight in it immense...
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Peace brother Wakas,
I understand your explanation but in 2217 it is singular.
Thanks for reminding me and correcting my mistake. You are correct it is singular. It is probably talking about the first inviolable full moon. If it is the first inviolable full moon, then "in it" would indicate in the period marked to begin according to it.
Peace,
Ayman
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salam wakas and ayman
even in singular form of 2-217, it can be a generic expression for each shahr haramPeace
Salam Noshirk,
Correct in your understanding , al-shahr al-haram ( inviolable month ) in 2217 even in singular form it's pointing to the four inviolable months not only one month , this form and meaning is similar to the word al-malak singular of al-malaayikah (plural ) the singular form is used in 6917 and 8922 but it still mean al-malayika as a group , there is another similar form or way when the plural meaning is understood through the singular form in arabic you can see that in the word as al-maskyin the singular of al-masaakyin ( plural ) , the singular form is used in 1073 and 7444 and 6934 but it is evident that the talk in that verse is not talking about one singular ,particular maskyin (1 poor man ) but instead it mean the poor men's in general ( any poor man ) this form and meaning is similar to the form and meaning of al-shahr al-haram ( the inviolable month ) in 2217 , the meaning is all the inviolable months
Salam
