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Should we accept the Jews sovereignty over Israel?

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    Jafar
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    That's true. The question is WHO are the Children of Israel, and where are they now?

    DNA wise, my bet is that
    Assumption

    1. 3500 years has passed since the first "Israel" ~ 100 generations
    2. Every generation has (on average) 2 children
    3. 2^100 = 1,267,650,600,228,230,000,000,000,000,000

    Nearly EVERYONE living today is a children of Israel...

    Which reminds me of the question "Where are the Neanderthal now?".
    And the answer is pretty much the same they have become US.

    If you think the descendants of the Khazars, who came from Poland, Lituhania, Hungary, Russia and the Ukraine are the "Bani Isra'eel" mentioned in the Scriptures, then I'm afraid you have been gravely misled,

    Well they might not be mistaken at all, given the above calculation, the Khazars might be indeed "Children Of Israel". Yet so does the today "Palestinians", "Arabs", "Armenians", "Turks", "French", "Italians", "Persians" etc...

    Imagine this scenario A league of Philippinos embrace Islam, declare that they are therefore of the "Quraysh" clan, and launch an armed invasion of the Arabian Penninsula, claiming that it is their promised land.

    By the EXACT SAME logic, a bunch of Khazari (Eastern Europeans) embraced Judaism, declared themselves as descendants of Biblical Israelites, and decided to annex Palestine as a result.

    One thing for sore, the hypothetical Phillipinos and the Khazari above apparently are not too smart.

    Island of Philippines is much much greener and beautiful land compared to Arabian peninsula.
    Just like Ukraine, Georgia and southern Russia is much much greener and beautiful land compared to Canaan.

    In any case, I don't like Identity politics, it's short-sighted and misleading...
    Identity politics always tries to build up a (vague) unity by enticing hatred towards one common enemy (which is another identity).

    The "Jews", "Juden", "Judeans" are definitely among the victim of that, starting from Rome, Caliphates, Espana, Anglo-Saxon, Nazis/Facism, Arab Nationalism etc.. Sadly in return they employ and embrace the same strategy and get caught up in this mess of Identity Politics...

    The reason why the so-called "Jewish Immigrant" are being expelled out from Europe / Middle East to Canaan (today's Israel/Palestine) is because they were being expelled / cast out by Europeans and Middle Easterners. They've been stripped out from their assets (homes, business) and sent out to foreign land..

    http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_question
    http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

    Persian jews on the other hand doesn't even bother to 'migrate', because everything is fine and dandy for them there...

    The most important thing is actually how should we move forward and amend this mess?
    Abandoning sectarian / identity politics might be a good start..

    Salam / Peace

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