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    Following with enthusiasm dear brother

    +salaam brother Alkitab

    I am also reading all your posts with enthusiasm. I see a great thinker and a man who can alter his mind upon new knowledge. I am the same. I have learned in my life many things from many people. And praise be to ALLAAH always who gives knowledge to whom he pleases.

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      Salam brother Al-amyr

      Thank you for creating this thread, it's very helpful also for how Quran define about time and what your ancestor possess in term of knowledge of the Quran.

      Peace

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        Salam brother Al-amyr

        Thank you for creating this thread, it's very helpful also for how Quran define about time and what your ancestor possess in term of knowledge of the Quran.

        Peace

        +salaam brother Earthdom

        You inspired me to create this thread now rather than later . It is the first time that I am discussing this knowledge over the internet. I have been lecturing it to students and other scholars for the last ten years. Everything is still in my brain. I am very eager to hear your opinions and those of others. The knowledge is very vast and covers all of the fields of mathematics.

        Yes! I have been working hard for a long time to find the timeline in the Qur'aan. It has alluded me so far for almost fifteen years. I have already named a book for it.
        I have also been working on the following models from the Qur'aan for a long time.

        The Qur'aan Chromatic Model
        The Qur'aan Photographic Model
        The Qur'aan Musical Model (The Qur'aan takes us into the Book (al-kitaab) to the origin of all sounds. I am working on this too for a long time and have already produce many sounds. The work is still in progress.

        I will also present discussions on what the Book (al-kitaab) speaks about "alayHaa tis"ata "ashara ( on/over/above it is nineteen). It has virtually nothing to do with all the present understandings.

        I hope that you will participate actively in the easy and simple lessons to understand the book (al-kitaab) that I am also about to present inshaa ALLAAH.

        +salaam

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          Salaam brother Al-amyr.

          In "Block of Members" thread. you invite me to became your volunteer/sutident, ok yes I will be glad for doing this.Yes I will learn from you about Quran's systematical which I never heard before especially your thouht about alleged code 19 in the Quran.

          Ok when you start the lesson, I will join insha ALlah.I also have a Skype account and if you still gave lecture in there inshaAllah I will join too.

          NOTE Btw I'm still a Quran alone muslim, so if you want to teach about fiqh and hkm to me, please understand my position brother.

          Peace

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            Salaam brother Al-amyr.

            In "Block of Members" thread. you invite me to became your volunteer/sutident, ok yes I will be glad for doing this.Yes I will learn from you about Quran's systematical which I never heard before especially your thouht about alleged code 19 in the Quran.

            Ok when you start the lesson, I will join insha ALlah.I also have a Skype account and if you still gave lecture in there inshaAllah I will join too.

            NOTE Btw I'm still a Quran alone muslim, so if you want to teach about fiqh and hkm to me, please understand my position brother.

            Peace

            +salaam brother Earthdom

            100% brother! We can share good knowledge.

            Everything I teach is based on the Qur'aan or on proven knowledge. The Qur'aan is our guide to everything. It is our director to everything we need to know. All must remain in what they understand at present until they themselves can confirm otherwise inshaa ALLAAH.

            +salaam

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              Yes respected brother, when you start the lesson?

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                Yes respected brother, when you start the lesson?

                +salaam respected brother

                I am designing some lessons. Many of them graphical animations to illustrate the Book (al-kitaab). Everything will be clearly and easily understood. It is just taking a little longer than I expected. I hope in the next three days inshaa ALLAAH.

                I am also working on all the other posts. Hope that you follow the Qur'aan Cosmological Model thread. It is directly related to the Book (al-kitaab).

                +salaam

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                  0) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 (0

                  The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

                  Part One
                  The Tools of Knowledge
                  ( &#1616

                  The Qur'aan 08901-05

                  01- And/by the dawn
                  02- And/by the ten nights
                  03- And/by the even and the odd
                  04- And/by the night when it passes away
                  05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

                  1. Why do we use the decimal system?
                  2. Why is the circle divided into 360 degrees?
                  3. Why has the year been divided into twelve months?

                  Although the questions might sound illogical and irrelevant to some there are sound reasons for it but this knowledge is only possessed by those who have or who would want to have knowledge from the Book (al-kitaab).

                  1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 1)

                  Why do human beings of human civilizations count in tens and not another?
                  That is the simple question.
                  Why is it that other counting systems never made it to the fore but either reverted back into oblivion or remained isolated in its localized domains.

                  According to the most common theory it is because we have ten fingers that is why we have learned how to count in tens. But it is also true that there are other human beings with ten fingers of other societies who have used other counting systems and not base-10. Therefore it is a theory without any solid foundation. Let us examine what the Qur'aan has to say on the matter.

                  The Qur'aan doesn't always have to say something before we can know what it is saying on a particular matter. The Qur'aan presents its information in many ways. We can just examine it to see what it presents and then we can gain knowledge on many matters without the Qur'aan even saying a single word about it.

                  When we examine the Qur'aan we will see that the Qur'aan mentions the following numbers.

                  01 - 011
                  02 - 012
                  03
                  04
                  05
                  06
                  07
                  08
                  09 - 019 - 099
                  10 - 020 - 030 - 040 - 050 - 060 - 070 - 080 - - 100 - 0200 - 0300 - 1000 - 02000 - 03000 - 05000 - 050 000 - 100 000

                  When we examine those numbers we will find that the Qur'aan also utilizes the base-ten counting system. The next important question is,
                  "why does the Qur'aan make use of the decimal counting system and not another system?"

                  Is there perhaps any reason for this?

                  1. Could it be because the people were counting in tens and for that reason ALLAAH decided to reveal the Qur'aan in the decimal system? or
                  2. Was it because ALLAAH had wanted the Qur'aan to be in the decimal counting system and therefore he revealed it in that system?

                  I leave you with those thoughts for now.

                  Post 3 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                    The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

                    Part One
                    The Tools of Knowledge
                    ( &#1616

                    The Qur'aan 08901-05

                    01- And/by the dawn
                    02- And/by the ten nights
                    03- And/by the even and the odd
                    04- And/by the night when it passes away
                    05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

                    1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 2)

                    Lo and behold!

                    It ALL began by His wish and command and then

                    +1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+

                    -1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-

                    and from them

                    the whole invisible matterless one-dimensional number line

                    represented by Laam->

                    came into being in the infinite-dimensional L

                    -thousands and millions and billions of numbers one after the other without end.

                    (Laam-> in the L <->L containing the Laam-&gt

                    By centralisation ('alif)

                    and single revolution (yaa&#039

                    around the chosen ONE (baa&#039

                    the numbers were transformed and stood motionless and mum

                    as concentric circles each represented by (miym) in the two-dimensional plane represented by K (Kaaf)

                    -thousands and millions and billions of numbers transformed into circles one beyond the other without end.

                    Behold!

                    The numbers of a line called Laammmmmmmmmm

                    transformed into circles in a plane called K (Kaaf)

                    standing and directed and awaiting the call to life and be guided by

                    The Wise Book

                    Alif LaaMMiyM

                    (y = mx + L).

                    All in submission and in the name of

                    ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD

                    on the straight road from beginning to end.

                    ALLAAH brings forth the numerals represented by +n (the Qur'aanic letter ) and -m (the Qur'aanic letter ) and the first spatial dimension comes into existence. Numbers standing equally spaced in both directions. No matter how far to the left ---> numbers one after the other without end. No matter how far to the right ---> numbers one after the other without end. Every number looking exactly the same like the other without any distinction.

                    to infinity <--- + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ---> to infinity

                    The Lord brings about centralization within the all infinite and the all infinite becomes divided into two
                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM3.png

                    The numbers are divided into groups of ten and the decimal system comes into operation.
                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM2.png

                    I leave this thought to you for now why the decimal counting system and division was chosen and given preference above all the other possible counting systems and divisions.

                    Post 4 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                      Salam all ;

                      Your posts in that model will lighten some critical debated topic during centuries since greec thinkers in what is known in Ilm al-Kalm (Arabic , literally "discourse") ( http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilm_al-Kalam ) as

                      1- The theory of atomisme ( the portion or the molecule source of everything or the first indivisible portion ) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

                      against

                      2-the theory of Infinite divisibility ( the atoms or molecules get divided infinitely) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_divisibility

                      Now of course in your posts you are describing that with what people consider as letters , which i refer to them in my posts as sounds , and which the qur'an refer as signs / ayat . So followers of this thread should make the connection and understood what is known in physics as molecules or atoms as what al-amiyr is referring to as letters .

                      You are about putting light on the connection between arithmetic and geometry which will solve the puzzle of the debate between who believe in The theory of atomisme and those who believe in the theory of Infinite divisibility

                      Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was the first one to highlight that the theory of The theory of atomisme will lead to the unification between arithmetic and geometry , even though he was one of the famous thinkers who rejected the concept of The theory of atomisme in the favor of the theory of Infinite divisibility , i always thought Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was wrong in this .

                      The question is what is the logical connection between arithmetic and geometry ? the answer in my opinion will resolve the debated topic.

                      What do you think brother ?

                      Observer

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                        Salaam al-amyr

                        01 - 011
                        02 - 012
                        03
                        04
                        05
                        06
                        07
                        08
                        09 - 019 - 099
                        10 - 020 - 030 - 040 - 050 - 060 - 070 - 080 - - 100 - 0200 - 0300 - 1000 - 02000 - 03000 - 05000 - 050 000 - 100 00
                        0

                        +1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+

                        -1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-

                        to infinity <--- + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ---> to infinity

                        The Lord brings about centralization within the all infinite and the all infinite becomes divided into two
                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM3.png

                        The numbers are divided into groups of ten and the decimal system comes into operation.
                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM2.png

                        While I try understand your knowledge, I stuck on this.Can you explain more in detail??

                        ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD

                        As I know Allah=YHWH in Hebrew. Yod in Hebrew same with alif in Arabic.

                        Peace

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                          Salam all ;

                          Your posts in that model will lighten some critical debated topic during centuries since greec thinkers in what is known in Ilm al-Kalm (Arabic , literally "discourse") ( http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilm_al-Kalam ) as

                          1- The theory of atomisme ( the portion or the molecule source of everything or the first indivisible portion ) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

                          against

                          2-the theory of Infinite divisibility ( the atoms or molecules get divided infinitely) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_divisibility

                          Now of course in your posts you are describing that with what people consider as letters , which i refer to them in my posts as sounds , and which the qur'an refer as signs / ayat . So followers of this thread should make the connection and understood what is known in physics as molecules or atoms as what al-amiyr is referring to as letters .

                          You are about putting light on the connection between arithmetic and geometry which will solve the puzzle of the debate between who believe in The theory of atomisme and those who believe in the theory of Infinite divisibility

                          Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was the first one to highlight that the theory of The theory of atomisme will lead to the unification between arithmetic and geometry , even though he was one of the famous thinkers who rejected the concept of The theory of atomisme in the favor of the theory of Infinite divisibility , i always thought Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was wrong in this .

                          The question is what is the logical connection between arithmetic and geometry ? the answer in my opinion will resolve the debated topic.

                          What do you think brother ?

                          Observer

                          +salaam brother Alkitab

                          You often raise important points and look into matters where many do not look- a sign of a constant seeker of knowledge. As we go along in this thread we are going to witness wonders of numbers and their interactions never presented to the world before.

                          I am very happy with your important insertions. They open the minds of many who are not aware of the ancient debates. Follow and contribute to this thread with gusto! I am sure from it shall arise many interesting discussions inshaa ALLAAH

                          +salaam

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                            Salaam al-amyr
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                            to infinity <--- + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ---> to infinity

                            The Lord brings about centralization within the all infinite and the all infinite becomes divided into two
                            http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM3.png

                            The numbers are divided into groups of ten and the decimal system comes into operation.
                            http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM2.png

                            While I try understand your knowledge, I stuck on this.Can you explain more in detail??

                            As I know Allah=YHWH in Hebrew. Yod in Hebrew same with alif in Arabic.

                            Peace

                            +salaam brother Earthdom

                            In the next two or three posts they will be made clearer. Can you tell me more exactly what you do not understand so that I can concentrate on that as well inshaa ALLAAH.

                            +salaam

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                              continued from post 3 #10
                              Post 004
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                              The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

                              Part One
                              The Tools of Knowledge
                              ( &#1616

                              The Qur'aan 08901-05

                              01- And/by the dawn
                              02- And/by the ten nights
                              03- And/by the even and the odd
                              04- And/by the night when it passes away
                              05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

                              1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 3)

                              When ALLAAH brought forth the centralization of the numbers - the equally spaced divisions of the infinite- they became exact place holders - representatives of an exact distance and quantity and thus imbued with individuality and identification.

                              ALLAAH looked at the numbers which He had individualized and knew all their identities

                              There is a number whose individual units would take less than a second of time to say like the number
                              one or one = 1

                              a number whose individual units would take about a second of time to say like the number
                              one two or twelve = 12

                              a number whose individual units would take more than a second of time to say like the number
                              one two three or one hundred and twenty- three = 123

                              whose individual units would take about a minute of time to say like the number
                              123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930313233343536373839404142434445464748495051525354555657585960616263646566676869707172737475767778798081828384858687888990919293949596979899100

                              whose individual units will take over one full day to say

                              whose individual units will take over a full year to say

                              whose individual units will take thousands (1000s)

                              and
                              millions (1000 000s)

                              and
                              billions (1000 000 000s)

                              and
                              trillions (1000 000 000 000s)

                              and
                              quadrillions (1000 000 000 000 000s)

                              and
                              quintillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000s)

                              and
                              sextillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

                              and
                              septillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

                              and
                              octillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

                              and
                              nonillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

                              and
                              dectillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

                              and
                              centillions
                              (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

                              of
                              years to say and then that would only be but one number on the number line that ALLAAH brought into existence.

                              And ALLAAH knew
                              each number's exact location, its specific properties and therefore its full identity.

                              ALLAAH looked and saw what he had known that of all the numbers that he had conceptualized, that the number called one represented his qualities and attributes.

                              Like-

                              He is the One
                              He is the Absolute
                              He multiplies not
                              Nor is He a division of any.
                              And
                              In the entirety there is like him not one.

                              So-

                              The number one is the One
                              It is Absolute
                              It multiplies not (1x1 =1)
                              Nor does it divide (1/1 =1)
                              And in the entirety of the number line there is no number like one.

                              I leave you to reflect over or investigate for now the follow mathematical concepts

                              1- odd numbers
                              2- even numbers
                              3- prime numbers
                              4- composite numbers

                              The Qur'aan 01993-95

                              There is none in the heavens or the earth but comes to the All Merciful as a servant;
                              He has already numbered them and numbered them by number,
                              and they are all coming to Him on the resurrection day singly.

                              The Qur'aan 003007

                              And everything We have numbered in a Book (kitaab).

                              Post 5 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                                The question is what is the logical connection between arithmetic and geometry ? the answer in my opinion will resolve the debated topic.

                                What do you think brother ?

                                Observer

                                Salam Brother ,

                                I saw one of the key of possible logical connection , it's about a record isn't ?

                                Recording mathematically or arithmetically the geometrical events happening in space time .

                                Hint The pool

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                                  Salam Brother ,

                                  I saw one of the key of possible logical connection , it's about a record isn't ?

                                  Recording mathematically or arithmetically the geometrical events happening in space time .

                                  Hint The pool

                                  +salaam brother Alkitab

                                  "A small hint from the book (al-kitaab) a giant understanding for Alkitab"

                                  +salaam

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                                    continued from post 004 #10
                                    Post 005
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                                    The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

                                    Part One
                                    The Tools of Knowledge
                                    ( &#1616

                                    The Qur'aan 08901-05

                                    01- And/by the dawn
                                    02- And/by the ten nights
                                    03- And/by the even and the odd
                                    04- And/by the night when it passes away
                                    05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

                                    1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 4)

                                    ALLAAH knew the numbers and He knew that they had all their own specific identities. And of all the numbers that ALLAAH loved most was the numbers called the prime numbers because these were the numbers that could only be divided by themselves and the number called one and which is a representative of himself.

                                    In other words these prime numbers are not like any of the other numbers which are called composite numbers because they are not associated with any other number than the number called one and which represents ALLAAH.

                                    Here is a graphical display of the prime numbers verses the composite numbers.

                                    Have a look at the following information about prime numbers. They are important to the understanding of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Recitation/Reading (al-Qur'aan).

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/PNdes.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

                                    You would have observed that the numbers form three groups.

                                    1- The one 'group' of only one number wherein no other number exists but only the one.

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

                                    2- The group of numbers called prime numbers that can only be divided by itself and one. All these numbers can be presented as a circle surrounding a point or a dot. The only difference is that these circles are further apart as the numbers appear further in the number line. Here are the examples 2 3 5 7.

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

                                    2- The group of numbers called composite numbers that can be divided not only by itself and one but by other numbers as well. These numbers can be presented as concentric circles surrounding a point or a dot. Here are the examples 4 6 8 9.

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

                                    As we go deeper into the number line we will observe that the prime numbers get all less and less. From ten onwards all the numbers that end in a 0 2 4 5 6 and an 8 are all composite numbers i.e. not prime. In other words all the even numbers from ten onwards are composite. That is already 50% of the whole number line. Then also all the odd numbers ending in a five are composite. That is another 10% of all the numbers. From this information we can already see that 60% of all numbers are composite without having to do any calculations to see if they are prime or composite.

                                    There is no known rule to calculate which numbers are prime. They must all be investigated to see if they are prime or not. All numbers greater than ten that ends in a 1 3 7 and a 9 needs to be calculated to see if they are prime or not. Up until today computers have calculated prime numbers with digits many tens of kilometers long and still calculating and recording.

                                    Remember that the main aim of this section of the thread is to answer why we use the decimal system of counting so that we can understand why ALLAAH has presented the Qur'aan in the decimal counting system. Let us continue!

                                    The first single digits (1-9) are exactly 50% prime and 50% composite.

                                    The double digit numbers (1-99) are about 25% prime and 75% composite.

                                    The triple digit numbers (1-999) are about 17% prime and 83% composite.

                                    The quadruple digit numbers (1-9 999) are about 12% prime and 88% composite.

                                    The quintuple digit numbers (1-99 999) are about 9.6% prime and 90.4% composite.

                                    As you will see the prime numbers get less and less and less as one goes further and further into the number line. And they also get further and further apart from each other. The prime numbers get so isolated that one will find one prime number surrounded by hundreds of thousands of billions of numbers with billions of concentric circles. Can you imagine how small and insignificant the primes become in comparison to all the other numbers as one climbs higher and higher into the infinite.

                                    Now our Lord ALLAAH knows all these numbers and he knows all their divisions and all their other properties. And as I already said that of all numbers ALLAAH chose he loved the prime numbers more than all the other numbers. And it is upon them that he laid the fundamental foundations of the world.

                                    Why The Decimal Number Line?

                                    1 = not prime and not composite

                                    12 = composite

                                    123 = composite

                                    1234 = composite

                                    12345 = composite

                                    123456 = composite

                                    1234567 = composite

                                    12345678 = composite

                                    123456789 = composite

                                    1234567891 = effectively prime

                                    There you have it. The number that creates the digits of our decimal system and upon which the Qur'aan is based is effectively a prime number. And it is therefore a number that can only be divided by itself and one.

                                    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1

                                    And the digits on either side is the number one which represents ALLAAH and beyond which there is nothing on both sides (zero).

                                    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0

                                    . . . . . . . . . . . .

                                    The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

                                    In posts to follow we shall discuss among others the following.

                                    1. Why do we use the decimal system? (answered with further proofs coming)
                                    2. Why is the circle divided into 360 degrees?
                                    3. Why has the year been divided into twelve months?

                                    Post 6 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                                      The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

                                      In one word Magnificent !

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                                        The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

                                        Part One
                                        The Tools of Knowledge
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                                        The Qur'aan 08901-05

                                        01- And/by the dawn
                                        02- And/by the ten nights
                                        03- And/by the even and the odd
                                        04- And/by the night when it passes away
                                        05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

                                        1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 4)

                                        ALLAAH knew the numbers and He knew that they had all their own specific identities. And of all the numbers that ALLAAH loved most was the numbers called the prime numbers because these were the numbers that could only be divided by themselves and the number called one and which is a representative of himself.

                                        In other words these prime numbers are not like any of the other numbers which are called composite numbers because they are not associated with any other number than the number called one and which represents ALLAAH.

                                        Here is a graphical display of the prime numbers verses the composite numbers.

                                        Have a look at the following information about prime numbers. They are important to the understanding of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Recitation/Reading (al-Qur'aan).

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/PNdes.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

                                        You would have observed that the numbers form three groups.

                                        1- The one 'group' of only one number wherein no other number exists but only the one.

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

                                        2- The group of numbers called prime numbers that can only be divided by itself and one. All these numbers can be presented as a circle surrounding a point or a dot. The only difference is that these circles are further apart as the numbers appear further in the number line. Here are the examples 2 3 5 7.

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

                                        3- The group of numbers called composite numbers that can be divided not only by itself and one but by other numbers as well. These numbers can be presented as concentric circles surrounding a point or a dot. Here are the examples 4 6 8 9.

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

                                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

                                        As we go deeper into the number line we will observe that the prime numbers get all less and less. From ten onwards all the numbers that end in a 0 2 4 5 6 and an 8 are all composite numbers i.e. not prime. In other words all the even numbers from ten onwards are composite. That is already 50% of the whole number line. Then also all the odd numbers ending in a five are composite. That is another 10% of all the numbers. From this information we can already see that 60% of all numbers are composite without having to do any calculations to see if they are prime or composite.

                                        There is no known rule to calculate which numbers are prime. They must all be investigated to see if they are prime or not. All numbers greater than ten that ends in a 1 3 7 and a 9 needs to be calculated to see if they are prime or not. Up until today computers have calculated prime numbers with digits many tens of kilometers long and still calculating and recording.

                                        Remember that the main aim of this section of the thread is to answer why we use the decimal system of counting so that we can understand why ALLAAH has presented the Qur'aan in the decimal counting system. Let us continue!

                                        The first single digits (1-9) are exactly 50% prime and 50% composite.

                                        The double digit numbers (1-99) are about 25% prime and 75% composite.

                                        The triple digit numbers (1-999) are about 17% prime and 83% composite.

                                        The quadruple digit numbers (1-9 999) are about 12% prime and 88% composite.

                                        The quintuple digit numbers (1-99 999) are about 9.6% prime and 90.4% composite.

                                        As you will see the prime numbers get less and less and less as one goes further and further into the number line. And they also get further and further apart from each other. The prime numbers get so isolated that one will find one prime number surrounded by hundreds of thousands of billions of numbers with billions of concentric circles. Can you imagine how small and insignificant the primes become in comparison to all the other numbers as one climbs higher and higher into the infinite.

                                        Now our Lord ALLAAH knows all these numbers and he knows all their divisions and all their other properties. And as I already said that of all numbers ALLAAH chose he loved the prime numbers more than all the other numbers. And it is upon them that he laid the fundamental foundations of the world.

                                        Why The Decimal Number Line?

                                        1 = not prime and not composite

                                        12 = composite

                                        123 = composite

                                        1234 = composite

                                        12345 = composite

                                        123456 = composite

                                        1234567 = composite

                                        12345678 = composite

                                        123456789 = composite

                                        1234567891 = effectively prime

                                        There you have it. The number that creates the digits of our decimal system and upon which the Qur'aan is based is effectively a prime number. And it is therefore a number that can only be divided by itself and one.

                                        1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1

                                        And the digits on either side is the number one which represents ALLAAH and beyond which there is nothing on both sides (zero).

                                        0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0

                                        . . . . . . . . . . . .

                                        The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

                                        In posts to follow we shall discuss among others the following.

                                        1. Why do we use the decimal system? (answered with further proofs coming)
                                        2. Why is the circle divided into 360 degrees?
                                        3. Why has the year been divided into twelve months?

                                        Post 6 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

                                        Salaam al-amiyr,

                                        Besides going through your questions and my answers on the Qur'aan Lexicographical Model thread, I went also through this thread about the Qur'aan Mathematical Model. I find your approach to answer why do we use the decimal system and your way to represent geometrically the prime numbers very original and clear.
                                        Thank you for sharing your understandings and knowledge.

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                                          In one word Magnificent !

                                          +salaam brother Alkitab

                                          At least you are one who are carefully studying all this knowledge. You are surely one who will see if there is any truth in it. But the strangest of all is that the very ones who do not know anything about what is going on in this knowledge are the quickest to condemn it. All actions which are contrary to the teachings of the Qur'aan. I am beginning to have serious doubts about the integrity of many.

                                          Just follow this thread as best you can and as I said in the previous post "wonders will be seen inshaa ALLAAH".

                                          +salaam

                                          May ALLAAH guide all those who seek His right way inshaa ALLAAH

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