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    The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

    Part One
    The Tools of Knowledge
    ( &#1616

    The Qur'aan 08901-05

    01- And/by the dawn
    02- And/by the ten nights
    03- And/by the even and the odd
    04- And/by the night when it passes away
    05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

    1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 2)

    Lo and behold!

    It ALL began by His wish and command and then

    +1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+

    -1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-

    and from them

    the whole invisible matterless one-dimensional number line

    represented by Laam->

    came into being in the infinite-dimensional L

    -thousands and millions and billions of numbers one after the other without end.

    (Laam-> in the L <->L containing the Laam-&gt

    By centralisation ('alif)

    and single revolution (yaa&#039

    around the chosen ONE (baa&#039

    the numbers were transformed and stood motionless and mum

    as concentric circles each represented by (miym) in the two-dimensional plane represented by K (Kaaf)

    -thousands and millions and billions of numbers transformed into circles one beyond the other without end.

    Behold!

    The numbers of a line called Laammmmmmmmmm

    transformed into circles in a plane called K (Kaaf)

    standing and directed and awaiting the call to life and be guided by

    The Wise Book

    Alif LaaMMiyM

    (y = mx + L).

    All in submission and in the name of

    ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD

    on the straight road from beginning to end.

    ALLAAH brings forth the numerals represented by +n (the Qur'aanic letter ) and -m (the Qur'aanic letter ) and the first spatial dimension comes into existence. Numbers standing equally spaced in both directions. No matter how far to the left ---> numbers one after the other without end. No matter how far to the right ---> numbers one after the other without end. Every number looking exactly the same like the other without any distinction.

    to infinity <--- + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ---> to infinity

    The Lord brings about centralization within the all infinite and the all infinite becomes divided into two
    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM3.png

    The numbers are divided into groups of ten and the decimal system comes into operation.
    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM2.png

    I leave this thought to you for now why the decimal counting system and division was chosen and given preference above all the other possible counting systems and divisions.

    Post 4 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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      Salam all ;

      Your posts in that model will lighten some critical debated topic during centuries since greec thinkers in what is known in Ilm al-Kalm (Arabic , literally "discourse") ( http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilm_al-Kalam ) as

      1- The theory of atomisme ( the portion or the molecule source of everything or the first indivisible portion ) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

      against

      2-the theory of Infinite divisibility ( the atoms or molecules get divided infinitely) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_divisibility

      Now of course in your posts you are describing that with what people consider as letters , which i refer to them in my posts as sounds , and which the qur'an refer as signs / ayat . So followers of this thread should make the connection and understood what is known in physics as molecules or atoms as what al-amiyr is referring to as letters .

      You are about putting light on the connection between arithmetic and geometry which will solve the puzzle of the debate between who believe in The theory of atomisme and those who believe in the theory of Infinite divisibility

      Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was the first one to highlight that the theory of The theory of atomisme will lead to the unification between arithmetic and geometry , even though he was one of the famous thinkers who rejected the concept of The theory of atomisme in the favor of the theory of Infinite divisibility , i always thought Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was wrong in this .

      The question is what is the logical connection between arithmetic and geometry ? the answer in my opinion will resolve the debated topic.

      What do you think brother ?

      Observer

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        Salaam al-amyr

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        +1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+

        -1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-

        to infinity <--- + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ---> to infinity

        The Lord brings about centralization within the all infinite and the all infinite becomes divided into two
        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM3.png

        The numbers are divided into groups of ten and the decimal system comes into operation.
        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM2.png

        While I try understand your knowledge, I stuck on this.Can you explain more in detail??

        ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD

        As I know Allah=YHWH in Hebrew. Yod in Hebrew same with alif in Arabic.

        Peace

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          Salam all ;

          Your posts in that model will lighten some critical debated topic during centuries since greec thinkers in what is known in Ilm al-Kalm (Arabic , literally "discourse") ( http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilm_al-Kalam ) as

          1- The theory of atomisme ( the portion or the molecule source of everything or the first indivisible portion ) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

          against

          2-the theory of Infinite divisibility ( the atoms or molecules get divided infinitely) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_divisibility

          Now of course in your posts you are describing that with what people consider as letters , which i refer to them in my posts as sounds , and which the qur'an refer as signs / ayat . So followers of this thread should make the connection and understood what is known in physics as molecules or atoms as what al-amiyr is referring to as letters .

          You are about putting light on the connection between arithmetic and geometry which will solve the puzzle of the debate between who believe in The theory of atomisme and those who believe in the theory of Infinite divisibility

          Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was the first one to highlight that the theory of The theory of atomisme will lead to the unification between arithmetic and geometry , even though he was one of the famous thinkers who rejected the concept of The theory of atomisme in the favor of the theory of Infinite divisibility , i always thought Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was wrong in this .

          The question is what is the logical connection between arithmetic and geometry ? the answer in my opinion will resolve the debated topic.

          What do you think brother ?

          Observer

          +salaam brother Alkitab

          You often raise important points and look into matters where many do not look- a sign of a constant seeker of knowledge. As we go along in this thread we are going to witness wonders of numbers and their interactions never presented to the world before.

          I am very happy with your important insertions. They open the minds of many who are not aware of the ancient debates. Follow and contribute to this thread with gusto! I am sure from it shall arise many interesting discussions inshaa ALLAAH

          +salaam

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            Salaam al-amyr
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            to infinity <--- + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ---> to infinity

            The Lord brings about centralization within the all infinite and the all infinite becomes divided into two
            http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM3.png

            The numbers are divided into groups of ten and the decimal system comes into operation.
            http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM2.png

            While I try understand your knowledge, I stuck on this.Can you explain more in detail??

            As I know Allah=YHWH in Hebrew. Yod in Hebrew same with alif in Arabic.

            Peace

            +salaam brother Earthdom

            In the next two or three posts they will be made clearer. Can you tell me more exactly what you do not understand so that I can concentrate on that as well inshaa ALLAAH.

            +salaam

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              continued from post 3 #10
              Post 004
              0) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 (0

              The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

              Part One
              The Tools of Knowledge
              ( &#1616

              The Qur'aan 08901-05

              01- And/by the dawn
              02- And/by the ten nights
              03- And/by the even and the odd
              04- And/by the night when it passes away
              05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

              1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 3)

              When ALLAAH brought forth the centralization of the numbers - the equally spaced divisions of the infinite- they became exact place holders - representatives of an exact distance and quantity and thus imbued with individuality and identification.

              ALLAAH looked at the numbers which He had individualized and knew all their identities

              There is a number whose individual units would take less than a second of time to say like the number
              one or one = 1

              a number whose individual units would take about a second of time to say like the number
              one two or twelve = 12

              a number whose individual units would take more than a second of time to say like the number
              one two three or one hundred and twenty- three = 123

              whose individual units would take about a minute of time to say like the number
              123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930313233343536373839404142434445464748495051525354555657585960616263646566676869707172737475767778798081828384858687888990919293949596979899100

              whose individual units will take over one full day to say

              whose individual units will take over a full year to say

              whose individual units will take thousands (1000s)

              and
              millions (1000 000s)

              and
              billions (1000 000 000s)

              and
              trillions (1000 000 000 000s)

              and
              quadrillions (1000 000 000 000 000s)

              and
              quintillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000s)

              and
              sextillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

              and
              septillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

              and
              octillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

              and
              nonillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

              and
              dectillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

              and
              centillions
              (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

              of
              years to say and then that would only be but one number on the number line that ALLAAH brought into existence.

              And ALLAAH knew
              each number's exact location, its specific properties and therefore its full identity.

              ALLAAH looked and saw what he had known that of all the numbers that he had conceptualized, that the number called one represented his qualities and attributes.

              Like-

              He is the One
              He is the Absolute
              He multiplies not
              Nor is He a division of any.
              And
              In the entirety there is like him not one.

              So-

              The number one is the One
              It is Absolute
              It multiplies not (1x1 =1)
              Nor does it divide (1/1 =1)
              And in the entirety of the number line there is no number like one.

              I leave you to reflect over or investigate for now the follow mathematical concepts

              1- odd numbers
              2- even numbers
              3- prime numbers
              4- composite numbers

              The Qur'aan 01993-95

              There is none in the heavens or the earth but comes to the All Merciful as a servant;
              He has already numbered them and numbered them by number,
              and they are all coming to Him on the resurrection day singly.

              The Qur'aan 003007

              And everything We have numbered in a Book (kitaab).

              Post 5 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

              .

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                The question is what is the logical connection between arithmetic and geometry ? the answer in my opinion will resolve the debated topic.

                What do you think brother ?

                Observer

                Salam Brother ,

                I saw one of the key of possible logical connection , it's about a record isn't ?

                Recording mathematically or arithmetically the geometrical events happening in space time .

                Hint The pool

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                  Salam Brother ,

                  I saw one of the key of possible logical connection , it's about a record isn't ?

                  Recording mathematically or arithmetically the geometrical events happening in space time .

                  Hint The pool

                  +salaam brother Alkitab

                  "A small hint from the book (al-kitaab) a giant understanding for Alkitab"

                  +salaam

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                    continued from post 004 #10
                    Post 005
                    0) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 (0

                    The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

                    Part One
                    The Tools of Knowledge
                    ( &#1616

                    The Qur'aan 08901-05

                    01- And/by the dawn
                    02- And/by the ten nights
                    03- And/by the even and the odd
                    04- And/by the night when it passes away
                    05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

                    1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 4)

                    ALLAAH knew the numbers and He knew that they had all their own specific identities. And of all the numbers that ALLAAH loved most was the numbers called the prime numbers because these were the numbers that could only be divided by themselves and the number called one and which is a representative of himself.

                    In other words these prime numbers are not like any of the other numbers which are called composite numbers because they are not associated with any other number than the number called one and which represents ALLAAH.

                    Here is a graphical display of the prime numbers verses the composite numbers.

                    Have a look at the following information about prime numbers. They are important to the understanding of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Recitation/Reading (al-Qur'aan).

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/PNdes.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

                    You would have observed that the numbers form three groups.

                    1- The one 'group' of only one number wherein no other number exists but only the one.

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

                    2- The group of numbers called prime numbers that can only be divided by itself and one. All these numbers can be presented as a circle surrounding a point or a dot. The only difference is that these circles are further apart as the numbers appear further in the number line. Here are the examples 2 3 5 7.

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

                    2- The group of numbers called composite numbers that can be divided not only by itself and one but by other numbers as well. These numbers can be presented as concentric circles surrounding a point or a dot. Here are the examples 4 6 8 9.

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

                    As we go deeper into the number line we will observe that the prime numbers get all less and less. From ten onwards all the numbers that end in a 0 2 4 5 6 and an 8 are all composite numbers i.e. not prime. In other words all the even numbers from ten onwards are composite. That is already 50% of the whole number line. Then also all the odd numbers ending in a five are composite. That is another 10% of all the numbers. From this information we can already see that 60% of all numbers are composite without having to do any calculations to see if they are prime or composite.

                    There is no known rule to calculate which numbers are prime. They must all be investigated to see if they are prime or not. All numbers greater than ten that ends in a 1 3 7 and a 9 needs to be calculated to see if they are prime or not. Up until today computers have calculated prime numbers with digits many tens of kilometers long and still calculating and recording.

                    Remember that the main aim of this section of the thread is to answer why we use the decimal system of counting so that we can understand why ALLAAH has presented the Qur'aan in the decimal counting system. Let us continue!

                    The first single digits (1-9) are exactly 50% prime and 50% composite.

                    The double digit numbers (1-99) are about 25% prime and 75% composite.

                    The triple digit numbers (1-999) are about 17% prime and 83% composite.

                    The quadruple digit numbers (1-9 999) are about 12% prime and 88% composite.

                    The quintuple digit numbers (1-99 999) are about 9.6% prime and 90.4% composite.

                    As you will see the prime numbers get less and less and less as one goes further and further into the number line. And they also get further and further apart from each other. The prime numbers get so isolated that one will find one prime number surrounded by hundreds of thousands of billions of numbers with billions of concentric circles. Can you imagine how small and insignificant the primes become in comparison to all the other numbers as one climbs higher and higher into the infinite.

                    Now our Lord ALLAAH knows all these numbers and he knows all their divisions and all their other properties. And as I already said that of all numbers ALLAAH chose he loved the prime numbers more than all the other numbers. And it is upon them that he laid the fundamental foundations of the world.

                    Why The Decimal Number Line?

                    1 = not prime and not composite

                    12 = composite

                    123 = composite

                    1234 = composite

                    12345 = composite

                    123456 = composite

                    1234567 = composite

                    12345678 = composite

                    123456789 = composite

                    1234567891 = effectively prime

                    There you have it. The number that creates the digits of our decimal system and upon which the Qur'aan is based is effectively a prime number. And it is therefore a number that can only be divided by itself and one.

                    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1

                    And the digits on either side is the number one which represents ALLAAH and beyond which there is nothing on both sides (zero).

                    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0

                    . . . . . . . . . . . .

                    The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

                    In posts to follow we shall discuss among others the following.

                    1. Why do we use the decimal system? (answered with further proofs coming)
                    2. Why is the circle divided into 360 degrees?
                    3. Why has the year been divided into twelve months?

                    Post 6 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                      The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

                      In one word Magnificent !

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                        continued from post 004 #10
                        Post 005
                        0) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 (0

                        The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

                        Part One
                        The Tools of Knowledge
                        ( &#1616

                        The Qur'aan 08901-05

                        01- And/by the dawn
                        02- And/by the ten nights
                        03- And/by the even and the odd
                        04- And/by the night when it passes away
                        05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

                        1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 4)

                        ALLAAH knew the numbers and He knew that they had all their own specific identities. And of all the numbers that ALLAAH loved most was the numbers called the prime numbers because these were the numbers that could only be divided by themselves and the number called one and which is a representative of himself.

                        In other words these prime numbers are not like any of the other numbers which are called composite numbers because they are not associated with any other number than the number called one and which represents ALLAAH.

                        Here is a graphical display of the prime numbers verses the composite numbers.

                        Have a look at the following information about prime numbers. They are important to the understanding of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Recitation/Reading (al-Qur'aan).

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/PNdes.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

                        You would have observed that the numbers form three groups.

                        1- The one 'group' of only one number wherein no other number exists but only the one.

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

                        2- The group of numbers called prime numbers that can only be divided by itself and one. All these numbers can be presented as a circle surrounding a point or a dot. The only difference is that these circles are further apart as the numbers appear further in the number line. Here are the examples 2 3 5 7.

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

                        3- The group of numbers called composite numbers that can be divided not only by itself and one but by other numbers as well. These numbers can be presented as concentric circles surrounding a point or a dot. Here are the examples 4 6 8 9.

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

                        http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

                        As we go deeper into the number line we will observe that the prime numbers get all less and less. From ten onwards all the numbers that end in a 0 2 4 5 6 and an 8 are all composite numbers i.e. not prime. In other words all the even numbers from ten onwards are composite. That is already 50% of the whole number line. Then also all the odd numbers ending in a five are composite. That is another 10% of all the numbers. From this information we can already see that 60% of all numbers are composite without having to do any calculations to see if they are prime or composite.

                        There is no known rule to calculate which numbers are prime. They must all be investigated to see if they are prime or not. All numbers greater than ten that ends in a 1 3 7 and a 9 needs to be calculated to see if they are prime or not. Up until today computers have calculated prime numbers with digits many tens of kilometers long and still calculating and recording.

                        Remember that the main aim of this section of the thread is to answer why we use the decimal system of counting so that we can understand why ALLAAH has presented the Qur'aan in the decimal counting system. Let us continue!

                        The first single digits (1-9) are exactly 50% prime and 50% composite.

                        The double digit numbers (1-99) are about 25% prime and 75% composite.

                        The triple digit numbers (1-999) are about 17% prime and 83% composite.

                        The quadruple digit numbers (1-9 999) are about 12% prime and 88% composite.

                        The quintuple digit numbers (1-99 999) are about 9.6% prime and 90.4% composite.

                        As you will see the prime numbers get less and less and less as one goes further and further into the number line. And they also get further and further apart from each other. The prime numbers get so isolated that one will find one prime number surrounded by hundreds of thousands of billions of numbers with billions of concentric circles. Can you imagine how small and insignificant the primes become in comparison to all the other numbers as one climbs higher and higher into the infinite.

                        Now our Lord ALLAAH knows all these numbers and he knows all their divisions and all their other properties. And as I already said that of all numbers ALLAAH chose he loved the prime numbers more than all the other numbers. And it is upon them that he laid the fundamental foundations of the world.

                        Why The Decimal Number Line?

                        1 = not prime and not composite

                        12 = composite

                        123 = composite

                        1234 = composite

                        12345 = composite

                        123456 = composite

                        1234567 = composite

                        12345678 = composite

                        123456789 = composite

                        1234567891 = effectively prime

                        There you have it. The number that creates the digits of our decimal system and upon which the Qur'aan is based is effectively a prime number. And it is therefore a number that can only be divided by itself and one.

                        1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1

                        And the digits on either side is the number one which represents ALLAAH and beyond which there is nothing on both sides (zero).

                        0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0

                        . . . . . . . . . . . .

                        The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

                        In posts to follow we shall discuss among others the following.

                        1. Why do we use the decimal system? (answered with further proofs coming)
                        2. Why is the circle divided into 360 degrees?
                        3. Why has the year been divided into twelve months?

                        Post 6 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

                        Salaam al-amiyr,

                        Besides going through your questions and my answers on the Qur'aan Lexicographical Model thread, I went also through this thread about the Qur'aan Mathematical Model. I find your approach to answer why do we use the decimal system and your way to represent geometrically the prime numbers very original and clear.
                        Thank you for sharing your understandings and knowledge.

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                          In one word Magnificent !

                          +salaam brother Alkitab

                          At least you are one who are carefully studying all this knowledge. You are surely one who will see if there is any truth in it. But the strangest of all is that the very ones who do not know anything about what is going on in this knowledge are the quickest to condemn it. All actions which are contrary to the teachings of the Qur'aan. I am beginning to have serious doubts about the integrity of many.

                          Just follow this thread as best you can and as I said in the previous post "wonders will be seen inshaa ALLAAH".

                          +salaam

                          May ALLAAH guide all those who seek His right way inshaa ALLAAH

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                            continued from post 004 #10
                            Post 005
                            0) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 (0

                            Why The Decimal Number Line?

                            1 = not prime and not composite

                            12 = composite

                            123 = composite

                            1234 = composite

                            12345 = composite

                            123456 = composite

                            1234567 = composite

                            12345678 = composite

                            123456789 = composite

                            1234567891 = effectively prime

                            There you have it. The number that creates the digits of our decimal system and upon which the Qur'aan is based is effectively a prime number. And it is therefore a number that can only be divided by itself and one.

                            1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1

                            And the digits on either side is the number one which represents ALLAAH and beyond which there is nothing on both sides (zero).

                            0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0

                            . . . . . . . . . . . .

                            Salam dear All ,

                            For those who are interested and want to see more

                            Who is the first Prime in Islam ?

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                            Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) and the family of 'Imran over the worlds

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                            2124(And when Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." said, "And of my descendants?" said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers.)

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                            Indeed, Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) was a origin ( amah from am the mother , the origin the first base , the prime block or set up ) , devoutly obedient to Allah , inclining toward truth, and he was not of those who associate others with Allah.

                            To be continued ...More wonders to come inchaA allah

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                              Salam dear All ,

                              For those who are interested and want to see more

                              Who is the first Prime in Islam ?

                              • 3 - 33

                              Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) and the family of 'Imran over the worlds

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                              2124(And when Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." said, "And of my descendants?" said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers.)

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                              Indeed, Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) was a origin ( amah from am the mother , the origin the first base , the prime block or set up ) , devoutly obedient to Allah , inclining toward truth, and he was not of those who associate others with Allah.

                              To be continued ...More wonders to come inchaA allah

                              Salam All ,

                              I do not know if someone grasp it ? . I literally mean it the etymology of the English word Prime ( brayiem &#1605 is ibrahiym .The prophet Abraham

                              Abraham = Prime ( brayim &#1605 is ibrahiym was the first Muslim ( il a ?tait le premier Musulman ) He is the first decimal block of Islam , the prime number 1234567891 .

                              Google translation French to English

                              premier-/ adjectif /

                              first
                              premier
                              prime
                              premier, principal, excellent, primordial, fondamental
                              premier
                              premier
                              initial
                              initial, premier, au d?but
                              former
                              ancien, premier, pr?c?dent, pass?
                              early
                              premier, de bonne heure, au d?but des ann?es piquantes, d?s l'enfance
                              top
                              sup?rieur, en haut, premier, de haut, meilleur, dernier
                              chief
                              en chef, principal, premier
                              front
                              avant, de face, de devant, premier, ventral
                              preliminary
                              pr?liminaire, pr?alable, premier
                              first of all
                              premier
                              primal
                              primitif, premier, principal, des premiers ?ges
                              ultimate
                              ultime, final, supr?me, d?finitif, fondamental, premier
                              premier
                              first
                              premier

                              Who think that the etymology between the English word Prime and the french word Premier and The Arabic name Ibrahyim is only a coincidence ?

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                                salaam al-amiyr,

                                Looking and reading to learn from this thread I noticed that your illustration of number 8 didn't agree with my mind as it looks that it has 1, 2, 3 and 8 rather than 1, 2, 4 and 8. In looking closer, your numbers 6 and 8 are identical with the error being in number 8, which should have it's interior matching the illustration of number 4 rather than 3. Do you agree?

                                adjwi

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                                  Salaam,

                                  Interesting observation, Alkitab.

                                  God bless you

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                                    Who think that the etymology between the English word Prime and the french word Premier and The Arabic name Ibrahyim is only a coincidence ?

                                    Peace Alkitab,

                                    Thread is bizarre and no coincidence or relation of Abraham to premier from Latin primus, primo/prima as in other Romance Languages French, Italian, Spanish ruled by Romans including Britannia (English) hundreds of years which words get borrowed/adopted spread as with most languages including Semitic Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, etc.

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                                      Peace Alkitab,

                                      Thread is bizarre and no coincidence or relation of Abraham to premier from Latin primus, primo/prima as in other Romance Languages French, Italian, Spanish ruled by Romans including Britannia (English) hundreds of years which words get borrowed/adopted spread as with most languages including Semitic Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, etc.

                                      Salam Noon ,

                                      Your reject the possible etymological connection between the word Ibrahyim and the word prime , and your argument is

                                      Peace Alkitab,

                                      as in other Romance Languages French, Italian, Spanish ruled by Romans including Britannia (English) hundreds of years which words get borrowed/adopted spread as with most languages including Semitic Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, etc.

                                      What is your point ? can you clarify more and link it to the concept of etymology of the word Prime ?

                                      The etymological connection i made could be wrong , I am only studying it , even-though it make sens and connections to me .

                                      Salam

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                                        Salam Noon ,

                                        Your reject the possible etymological connection between the word Ibrahyim and the word prime , and your argument is

                                        What is your point ? can you clarify more and link it to the concept of etymology of the word Prime ?

                                        The etymological connection i made could be wrong , I am only studying it , even-though it make sens and connections to me .

                                        Salam

                                        Peace Alkitab,

                                        Point is why link Semitic/Arabic to Latin and don't get the point of this thread -- prime numbers, math, code 29?

                                        Google "etymology of prime"

                                        prime
                                        Origin
                                        Old English prm, from Latin prima (hora ) ?first (hour),? reinforced in Middle English by Old French prime

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                                          Peace Alkitab,

                                          Point is why link Semitic/Arabic to Latin

                                          Salam Noon ,

                                          why not ? have a look

                                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603850.msg298181#msg298181

                                          If you require more evidence i can provide it insha allah

                                          salam

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