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    Salam Brother ,

    I saw one of the key of possible logical connection , it's about a record isn't ?

    Recording mathematically or arithmetically the geometrical events happening in space time .

    Hint The pool

    +salaam brother Alkitab

    "A small hint from the book (al-kitaab) a giant understanding for Alkitab"

    +salaam

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      The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

      Part One
      The Tools of Knowledge
      ( &#1616

      The Qur'aan 08901-05

      01- And/by the dawn
      02- And/by the ten nights
      03- And/by the even and the odd
      04- And/by the night when it passes away
      05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

      1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 4)

      ALLAAH knew the numbers and He knew that they had all their own specific identities. And of all the numbers that ALLAAH loved most was the numbers called the prime numbers because these were the numbers that could only be divided by themselves and the number called one and which is a representative of himself.

      In other words these prime numbers are not like any of the other numbers which are called composite numbers because they are not associated with any other number than the number called one and which represents ALLAAH.

      Here is a graphical display of the prime numbers verses the composite numbers.

      Have a look at the following information about prime numbers. They are important to the understanding of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Recitation/Reading (al-Qur'aan).

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/PNdes.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

      You would have observed that the numbers form three groups.

      1- The one 'group' of only one number wherein no other number exists but only the one.

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

      2- The group of numbers called prime numbers that can only be divided by itself and one. All these numbers can be presented as a circle surrounding a point or a dot. The only difference is that these circles are further apart as the numbers appear further in the number line. Here are the examples 2 3 5 7.

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

      2- The group of numbers called composite numbers that can be divided not only by itself and one but by other numbers as well. These numbers can be presented as concentric circles surrounding a point or a dot. Here are the examples 4 6 8 9.

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

      As we go deeper into the number line we will observe that the prime numbers get all less and less. From ten onwards all the numbers that end in a 0 2 4 5 6 and an 8 are all composite numbers i.e. not prime. In other words all the even numbers from ten onwards are composite. That is already 50% of the whole number line. Then also all the odd numbers ending in a five are composite. That is another 10% of all the numbers. From this information we can already see that 60% of all numbers are composite without having to do any calculations to see if they are prime or composite.

      There is no known rule to calculate which numbers are prime. They must all be investigated to see if they are prime or not. All numbers greater than ten that ends in a 1 3 7 and a 9 needs to be calculated to see if they are prime or not. Up until today computers have calculated prime numbers with digits many tens of kilometers long and still calculating and recording.

      Remember that the main aim of this section of the thread is to answer why we use the decimal system of counting so that we can understand why ALLAAH has presented the Qur'aan in the decimal counting system. Let us continue!

      The first single digits (1-9) are exactly 50% prime and 50% composite.

      The double digit numbers (1-99) are about 25% prime and 75% composite.

      The triple digit numbers (1-999) are about 17% prime and 83% composite.

      The quadruple digit numbers (1-9 999) are about 12% prime and 88% composite.

      The quintuple digit numbers (1-99 999) are about 9.6% prime and 90.4% composite.

      As you will see the prime numbers get less and less and less as one goes further and further into the number line. And they also get further and further apart from each other. The prime numbers get so isolated that one will find one prime number surrounded by hundreds of thousands of billions of numbers with billions of concentric circles. Can you imagine how small and insignificant the primes become in comparison to all the other numbers as one climbs higher and higher into the infinite.

      Now our Lord ALLAAH knows all these numbers and he knows all their divisions and all their other properties. And as I already said that of all numbers ALLAAH chose he loved the prime numbers more than all the other numbers. And it is upon them that he laid the fundamental foundations of the world.

      Why The Decimal Number Line?

      1 = not prime and not composite

      12 = composite

      123 = composite

      1234 = composite

      12345 = composite

      123456 = composite

      1234567 = composite

      12345678 = composite

      123456789 = composite

      1234567891 = effectively prime

      There you have it. The number that creates the digits of our decimal system and upon which the Qur'aan is based is effectively a prime number. And it is therefore a number that can only be divided by itself and one.

      1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1

      And the digits on either side is the number one which represents ALLAAH and beyond which there is nothing on both sides (zero).

      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0

      . . . . . . . . . . . .

      The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

      In posts to follow we shall discuss among others the following.

      1. Why do we use the decimal system? (answered with further proofs coming)
      2. Why is the circle divided into 360 degrees?
      3. Why has the year been divided into twelve months?

      Post 6 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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        The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

        In one word Magnificent !

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          continued from post 004 #10
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          0) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 (0

          The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

          Part One
          The Tools of Knowledge
          ( &#1616

          The Qur'aan 08901-05

          01- And/by the dawn
          02- And/by the ten nights
          03- And/by the even and the odd
          04- And/by the night when it passes away
          05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

          1. Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 4)

          ALLAAH knew the numbers and He knew that they had all their own specific identities. And of all the numbers that ALLAAH loved most was the numbers called the prime numbers because these were the numbers that could only be divided by themselves and the number called one and which is a representative of himself.

          In other words these prime numbers are not like any of the other numbers which are called composite numbers because they are not associated with any other number than the number called one and which represents ALLAAH.

          Here is a graphical display of the prime numbers verses the composite numbers.

          Have a look at the following information about prime numbers. They are important to the understanding of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Recitation/Reading (al-Qur'aan).

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/PNdes.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

          You would have observed that the numbers form three groups.

          1- The one 'group' of only one number wherein no other number exists but only the one.

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

          2- The group of numbers called prime numbers that can only be divided by itself and one. All these numbers can be presented as a circle surrounding a point or a dot. The only difference is that these circles are further apart as the numbers appear further in the number line. Here are the examples 2 3 5 7.

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

          3- The group of numbers called composite numbers that can be divided not only by itself and one but by other numbers as well. These numbers can be presented as concentric circles surrounding a point or a dot. Here are the examples 4 6 8 9.

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

          http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

          As we go deeper into the number line we will observe that the prime numbers get all less and less. From ten onwards all the numbers that end in a 0 2 4 5 6 and an 8 are all composite numbers i.e. not prime. In other words all the even numbers from ten onwards are composite. That is already 50% of the whole number line. Then also all the odd numbers ending in a five are composite. That is another 10% of all the numbers. From this information we can already see that 60% of all numbers are composite without having to do any calculations to see if they are prime or composite.

          There is no known rule to calculate which numbers are prime. They must all be investigated to see if they are prime or not. All numbers greater than ten that ends in a 1 3 7 and a 9 needs to be calculated to see if they are prime or not. Up until today computers have calculated prime numbers with digits many tens of kilometers long and still calculating and recording.

          Remember that the main aim of this section of the thread is to answer why we use the decimal system of counting so that we can understand why ALLAAH has presented the Qur'aan in the decimal counting system. Let us continue!

          The first single digits (1-9) are exactly 50% prime and 50% composite.

          The double digit numbers (1-99) are about 25% prime and 75% composite.

          The triple digit numbers (1-999) are about 17% prime and 83% composite.

          The quadruple digit numbers (1-9 999) are about 12% prime and 88% composite.

          The quintuple digit numbers (1-99 999) are about 9.6% prime and 90.4% composite.

          As you will see the prime numbers get less and less and less as one goes further and further into the number line. And they also get further and further apart from each other. The prime numbers get so isolated that one will find one prime number surrounded by hundreds of thousands of billions of numbers with billions of concentric circles. Can you imagine how small and insignificant the primes become in comparison to all the other numbers as one climbs higher and higher into the infinite.

          Now our Lord ALLAAH knows all these numbers and he knows all their divisions and all their other properties. And as I already said that of all numbers ALLAAH chose he loved the prime numbers more than all the other numbers. And it is upon them that he laid the fundamental foundations of the world.

          Why The Decimal Number Line?

          1 = not prime and not composite

          12 = composite

          123 = composite

          1234 = composite

          12345 = composite

          123456 = composite

          1234567 = composite

          12345678 = composite

          123456789 = composite

          1234567891 = effectively prime

          There you have it. The number that creates the digits of our decimal system and upon which the Qur'aan is based is effectively a prime number. And it is therefore a number that can only be divided by itself and one.

          1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1

          And the digits on either side is the number one which represents ALLAAH and beyond which there is nothing on both sides (zero).

          0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0

          . . . . . . . . . . . .

          The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

          In posts to follow we shall discuss among others the following.

          1. Why do we use the decimal system? (answered with further proofs coming)
          2. Why is the circle divided into 360 degrees?
          3. Why has the year been divided into twelve months?

          Post 6 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

          Salaam al-amiyr,

          Besides going through your questions and my answers on the Qur'aan Lexicographical Model thread, I went also through this thread about the Qur'aan Mathematical Model. I find your approach to answer why do we use the decimal system and your way to represent geometrically the prime numbers very original and clear.
          Thank you for sharing your understandings and knowledge.

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            In one word Magnificent !

            +salaam brother Alkitab

            At least you are one who are carefully studying all this knowledge. You are surely one who will see if there is any truth in it. But the strangest of all is that the very ones who do not know anything about what is going on in this knowledge are the quickest to condemn it. All actions which are contrary to the teachings of the Qur'aan. I am beginning to have serious doubts about the integrity of many.

            Just follow this thread as best you can and as I said in the previous post "wonders will be seen inshaa ALLAAH".

            +salaam

            May ALLAAH guide all those who seek His right way inshaa ALLAAH

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              continued from post 004 #10
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              Why The Decimal Number Line?

              1 = not prime and not composite

              12 = composite

              123 = composite

              1234 = composite

              12345 = composite

              123456 = composite

              1234567 = composite

              12345678 = composite

              123456789 = composite

              1234567891 = effectively prime

              There you have it. The number that creates the digits of our decimal system and upon which the Qur'aan is based is effectively a prime number. And it is therefore a number that can only be divided by itself and one.

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1

              And the digits on either side is the number one which represents ALLAAH and beyond which there is nothing on both sides (zero).

              0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0

              . . . . . . . . . . . .

              Salam dear All ,

              For those who are interested and want to see more

              Who is the first Prime in Islam ?

              • 3 - 33

              Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) and the family of 'Imran over the worlds

              • 2 - 124

              2124(And when Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." said, "And of my descendants?" said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers.)

              • 16 - 120

              Indeed, Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) was a origin ( amah from am the mother , the origin the first base , the prime block or set up ) , devoutly obedient to Allah , inclining toward truth, and he was not of those who associate others with Allah.

              To be continued ...More wonders to come inchaA allah

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                Salam dear All ,

                For those who are interested and want to see more

                Who is the first Prime in Islam ?

                • 3 - 33

                Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) and the family of 'Imran over the worlds

                • 2 - 124

                2124(And when Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." said, "And of my descendants?" said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers.)

                • 16 - 120

                Indeed, Abraham (Ibraahiym /The prime ) was a origin ( amah from am the mother , the origin the first base , the prime block or set up ) , devoutly obedient to Allah , inclining toward truth, and he was not of those who associate others with Allah.

                To be continued ...More wonders to come inchaA allah

                Salam All ,

                I do not know if someone grasp it ? . I literally mean it the etymology of the English word Prime ( brayiem &#1605 is ibrahiym .The prophet Abraham

                Abraham = Prime ( brayim &#1605 is ibrahiym was the first Muslim ( il a ?tait le premier Musulman ) He is the first decimal block of Islam , the prime number 1234567891 .

                Google translation French to English

                premier-/ adjectif /

                first
                premier
                prime
                premier, principal, excellent, primordial, fondamental
                premier
                premier
                initial
                initial, premier, au d?but
                former
                ancien, premier, pr?c?dent, pass?
                early
                premier, de bonne heure, au d?but des ann?es piquantes, d?s l'enfance
                top
                sup?rieur, en haut, premier, de haut, meilleur, dernier
                chief
                en chef, principal, premier
                front
                avant, de face, de devant, premier, ventral
                preliminary
                pr?liminaire, pr?alable, premier
                first of all
                premier
                primal
                primitif, premier, principal, des premiers ?ges
                ultimate
                ultime, final, supr?me, d?finitif, fondamental, premier
                premier
                first
                premier

                Who think that the etymology between the English word Prime and the french word Premier and The Arabic name Ibrahyim is only a coincidence ?

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                  salaam al-amiyr,

                  Looking and reading to learn from this thread I noticed that your illustration of number 8 didn't agree with my mind as it looks that it has 1, 2, 3 and 8 rather than 1, 2, 4 and 8. In looking closer, your numbers 6 and 8 are identical with the error being in number 8, which should have it's interior matching the illustration of number 4 rather than 3. Do you agree?

                  adjwi

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                    Salaam,

                    Interesting observation, Alkitab.

                    God bless you

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                      Who think that the etymology between the English word Prime and the french word Premier and The Arabic name Ibrahyim is only a coincidence ?

                      Peace Alkitab,

                      Thread is bizarre and no coincidence or relation of Abraham to premier from Latin primus, primo/prima as in other Romance Languages French, Italian, Spanish ruled by Romans including Britannia (English) hundreds of years which words get borrowed/adopted spread as with most languages including Semitic Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, etc.

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                        Peace Alkitab,

                        Thread is bizarre and no coincidence or relation of Abraham to premier from Latin primus, primo/prima as in other Romance Languages French, Italian, Spanish ruled by Romans including Britannia (English) hundreds of years which words get borrowed/adopted spread as with most languages including Semitic Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, etc.

                        Salam Noon ,

                        Your reject the possible etymological connection between the word Ibrahyim and the word prime , and your argument is

                        Peace Alkitab,

                        as in other Romance Languages French, Italian, Spanish ruled by Romans including Britannia (English) hundreds of years which words get borrowed/adopted spread as with most languages including Semitic Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, etc.

                        What is your point ? can you clarify more and link it to the concept of etymology of the word Prime ?

                        The etymological connection i made could be wrong , I am only studying it , even-though it make sens and connections to me .

                        Salam

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                          Salam Noon ,

                          Your reject the possible etymological connection between the word Ibrahyim and the word prime , and your argument is

                          What is your point ? can you clarify more and link it to the concept of etymology of the word Prime ?

                          The etymological connection i made could be wrong , I am only studying it , even-though it make sens and connections to me .

                          Salam

                          Peace Alkitab,

                          Point is why link Semitic/Arabic to Latin and don't get the point of this thread -- prime numbers, math, code 29?

                          Google "etymology of prime"

                          prime
                          Origin
                          Old English prm, from Latin prima (hora ) ?first (hour),? reinforced in Middle English by Old French prime

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                            Peace Alkitab,

                            Point is why link Semitic/Arabic to Latin

                            Salam Noon ,

                            why not ? have a look

                            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603850.msg298181#msg298181

                            If you require more evidence i can provide it insha allah

                            salam

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                              salaam al-amiyr,

                              Looking and reading to learn from this thread I noticed that your illustration of number 8 didn't agree with my mind as it looks that it has 1, 2, 3 and 8 rather than 1, 2, 4 and 8. In looking closer, your numbers 6 and 8 are identical with the error being in number 8, which should have it's interior matching the illustration of number 4 rather than 3. Do you agree?

                              adjwi

                              Salam brother ,

                              Brother al-amyir is banned for one month for posting in the forum .

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                                Salaam,

                                He seems to be banned a lot.

                                God bless you

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                                  Salaam,

                                  He seems to be banned a lot.

                                  God bless you

                                  Salam Man of Faith ,

                                  He was banned for one week , and then he was banned for one months , if you look at the forum rules you will see the future scenario , he will be banned permanently as there is no other limited ban .

                                  I am just wondering

                                  When he will be banned permanently , is that mean he will never enter paradise ?

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