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    muslims
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    Salam

    Do you mean "spouses" or not?

    You want to change what you have just said right now?

    Fine.. what is it now? yes

    I mean mate is spouse of course

    http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spouse
    http//www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spouse
    http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/spouse
    http//www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/spouse

    Peace

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      Salam

      Do you mean "spouses" or not?

      You want to change what you have just said right now?

      Fine.. what is it now? yes

      Peace

      Since start you just merely out of contexs.You never understand what I said.You don't understand in what situation I say "spouse".

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        muslims
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        Since start you just merely out of contexs.You never understand what I said.You don't understand in what situation I say "spouse".

        Salam

        Do you understand what is "spouse"?

        and do you mean it to say "spouse"?

        Peace

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          Salam

          Do you understand what is "spouse"?

          Peace

          Of course, I know.I never confusing "spouse" in english, but this just u brother.

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            muslims
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            Of course, I know.I never confusing "spouse" in english, but this just u brother.

            Salam

            Here are the links, quote one dictionary that says "spouses" is not referring to "marriages"

            http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spouse
            http//www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spouse
            http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/spouse
            http//www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/spouse

            You may also refer me to your dictionary.

            Peace

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              Salam

              Here are the links, quote one dictionary that says it is not referring to "marriages"

              http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spouse
              http//www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spouse
              http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/spouse
              http//www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/spouse

              You may also refer me to your dictionary.

              Wa'alaikum salaam Mr out of context.

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                muslims
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                Salam

                See? How are you trying so hard to distort the words in the Qur'an?

                Maybe, innocently .. or may also out of ego, regardless it is the truth or not. Allah Knows Best.

                I mean mate is spouse of course

                Here are the links, quote one dictionary that says "spouses" is not referring to "marriages"

                Therefore and if you are referring it to "spouses", then it must mean "marriages"!

                Peace.

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                  Salam

                  See? How you are trying hard to distort the words in the Qur'an? Maybe, innocently.

                  Peace.

                  Distort?? I distort Quranic verses with my Arabic knowledge, while you distort it with your strange logic science.

                  Peace

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                    muslims
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                    Salam

                    This is a simple question, do you mean it as "spouse" or not?

                    Can you understand this simple question?

                    Choose whatever you like from your own interpretation, according to your supreme Arabic knowledge. I don't really care about what you choose. It makes no difference to my arguments. Either way I can prove it logically how your interpretation is inconsistent with the Qur'an. The Qur'an has mentioned about this, and I believe in it.

                    So.. choose one, A or B

                    A. It means spouses

                    B. It does not mean spouses

                    Peace

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                      So.. choose one, A or B

                      A. It means spouses

                      B. It does not mean spouses

                      Ok I will be patient from now.

                      What verse do u mean for answering your question?

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                        muslims
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                        Salam

                        You don't understand that simple question?

                        What is wrong with your wisdom and clear thinking? confused

                        Peace

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                          unknownuser
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                          You don't understand that simple question?

                          Yes I don't understand, so explain your question clearly.

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                            muslims
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                            Yes I don't understand, so explain your question clearly.

                            Salam

                            You must be lying since you have already answered it previously and yet you are saying don't understand the question?

                            I mean mate is spouse of course

                            The most simple question, with an option of A or B?

                            How can any believers acted this way? confused

                            If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is probably what?

                            So.. A or B?

                            This is a simple question, do you mean it as "spouse" or not?

                            Peace

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                              You must be lying since you have already answered it previously and yet you say you still don't understand the question?

                              How can any believers acted this way? confused

                              I'm not lying, lying in this forum is no use for me.

                              Indeed verse 236 talk about human mates

                              236 Except around their mates, or those who are maintained by their oaths, they are free from blame.(Free-Minds Translation).

                              If we look by the conteks of the verses, mates (zawaj) is spouse.Spouses is neutral in gender, it can be male or female.

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                                muslims
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                                If we look by the conteks of the verses, mates (zawaj) is spouse.Spouses is neutral in gender, it can be male or female.

                                Salam

                                So.. let me confirm it again with you for the (x) times, you mean it as "spouses"?

                                Male or female is irrelevant to what I will discuss here.

                                Peace

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  Yes, by looking of verse's context.

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                                    muslims
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                                    So.. let me confirm it again with you for the (x) times, you mean it as "spouses"?

                                    Yes, by looking of verse's context.

                                    Salam

                                    Okay, you mean it to be "spouses".

                                    And those who guard their private parts. Except from their spouses

                                    Second question,

                                    Now, can you show me any dictionary (link) that says "spouses" is not related to "husband or wife", or "marriages"?

                                    Peace

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                                      Now, can you show me any dictionary (link) that says "spouses" is not related to husband and wife, or marriages?

                                      This is your biggest fault when intepreted my post.I will make clear now.

                                      I never said if spouses not related to husbad-wife, marriage.But that time we talk about verse 235-6 (about private guard).

                                      So I respong if this verses has not talking about marriage, the contexs is about zina preventing.

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                                        This is your biggest fault when intepreted my post.I will make clear now.

                                        I never said if spouses not related to husbad-wife, marriage.But that time we talk about verse 235-6 (about private guard).

                                        So I respong if this verses has not talking about marriage, the contexs is about zina preventing.

                                        Salam

                                        Read again our main ssue, where did I mention about (235-6)?

                                        I'm discussing about (7029-31) and it is you who diverted/jumping from one issue the other, and yet claiming that it is my biggest fault.

                                        And those who guard their private parts <- ALL human beings have private parts, including homosexual
                                        Except from their wives <- referring to marriages
                                        or those their right hands possess
                                        for indeed, they are not to be blamed
                                        But whoever seeks beyond that
                                        then they are the transgressors
                                        (7029-31)

                                        We settle one issue at a time. We check the verses and discuss that later, though it is hard to say the context is about the prevention of zina.

                                        Secondly,

                                        Now, can you show me any dictionary (link) that says "spouses" is not related to "husband or wife", or "marriages"?

                                        I'm still waiting for the meaning of "spouses".

                                        Please provide me the links.

                                        Peace

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                                          I'm still waiting for the meaning of "spouses"?

                                          http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spouse

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