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SAY NO to Bigotism & Bigotists!

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    muslims
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    For you is your deen <- Sectarianism (religion), Bigotism, the Bigotists
    and for me is my deen <- Just and balance (righteousness),
    (109) regardless of religions/tribes etc

    (refer here and here, 1, 2, 3)

    There shall be no compulsion <- Allah accepts all way of life that is just?
    in the deen (way of life, deen, dayn, debt, duty...)
    The right course <- just = not about religion, all religion can be just/unjust
    has become clear
    from the wrong <- unjust = not about religion, all religion can be just/unjust
    So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah <- justly balanced
    has grasped
    the most trustworthy handhold <- it is not about religion, bigotism, bigotists
    with no break in it but about way of life, justly balanced, regardless of differences
    And Allah is Hearing and Knowing
    (2256)

    and again.. it is not about religion.

    The same thing happen to day where people are arguing about religions. They are Bigotists.

    And they say

    "None will enter Paradise except one who is a Jew or a Christian." <- sectarianism

    That is their wishful thinking, Say,

    "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."

    Yes <- actual requirements

    whoever submits his face in Islam to Allah <- two requirements, according to priority
    while being a doer of good
    will have his reward with his Lord
    And no fear will there be concerning them
    nor will they grieve.

    The Jews say <- same thing happens today, sunni in the hell fire, shia in the hell fire, etc.

    "The Christians have nothing to stand on,"

    and the Christians say

    "The Jews have nothing to stand on,"
    although they recite the Scripture

    Thus the polytheists

    speak the same as their words

    But Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection
    concerning that over which they used to differ

    And who are more unjust <- opposing justly balanced
    than those who prevent the name of Allah <- Allah's rules
    from being mentioned in His mosques <- concern with justly balanced/ system
    and strive toward their destruction vs. assist/spread corruption on earth

    It is not for them to enter them except in fear
    For them in this world is disgrace
    and they will have in the Hereafter a great punishment

    And to Allah belongs the east and the west
    So wherever you turn <- whatever madhab/sect you are, just fulfill the requirements
    there is the Face of Allah <- it is accepted by Allah
    Indeed, Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing
    (2111-115)

    Now, just a philosophical statement...

    as to the meaning of solat

    http//s13.postimg.org/4dyhaqi2t/solat.png

    And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam
    it will NEVER be accepted of him
    and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
    (<a href="http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=3&verse=85">385</a&gt

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      For you is your deen <- Sectarianism (religion), Bigotism, the Bigotists
      and for me is my deen <- Just and balance (righteousness),
      (109) regardless of religions/tribes etc

      (refer here and here, 1, 2, 3)

      And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam
      it will NEVER be accepted of him
      and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
      (<a href="http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=3&verse=85">385</a&gt

      http//s13.postimg.org/f0sag5q85/solat.png

      In your very humble opinion.

      Stop inferring to things in accordance to your own interpretation.

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        muslims
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        Then, give reasons.. from the Quran.

        and please ... no rambling with personal opinions or wishful thinking,

        I'm not interested in discussing "your opinions".

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          muslims
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          Indeed, the worst of living creatures
          in the sight of Allah
          are the deaf
          and dumb
          who do not use reason
          (822)

          What is reasoning?

          CLEAR Authority

          RULE No valid argument can have one or more false premises and a true conclusion, garbage in garbage out.

          http//s8.postimg.org/t7xckvyz9/logic.png

          Quranic Logic

          T = True
          F = False
          X = Premise 1 (verses from the Quran)
          Y = Premise 2 (facts or issue)
          X+Y = Conclusion (decision)

          And DO NOT <- Allah say "DO NOT", obey or disobey? Islam or Deniers?
          mix <- " X " or " Y " section
          the Truth <- symbol " T " above
          with Falsehood <- symbol "F " above
          (242)

          O People of the Scripture
          why do you confuse
          the Truth <- symbol " T " above
          with Falsehood <- symbol "F " above
          (371)

          Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an?
          If it had been from other than Allah
          they would have found within it much contradiction <- one or more false premises
          (482)

          "Not entirely clear verse" must be explained by the "entirely clear verses" from the Quran itself so that the words become "entirely clear verses". The words "signs" must refer to "Ayat" or verses from the Quran. It is the signs specifically (clearly) mentioned by Allah in the Qur'an. This is the "main premises" from the Qur'an and the basis that Allah wants human to start their comparison or reasoning and learn from. Therefore, it is the "actual literal passages", and then expand from there, from the "Muhkamat" and not the "Mutasyaabihat" (Allah's trap) (37) (1039). This is so since everything must start from the Qur'an (constitution) and the meaning expands from the Qur'an according to the types of ayat and its "priority (awwaliyah)".

          Therefore conclusion from wrong methodology are not reasoning, in fact fallacy or deceiving conclusions ... and to deceive means

          And DO NOT argue <- Allah says "DO NOT", obey or disobey? Islam or else?
          on behalf of those
          who deceive themselves
          Indeed, Allah loves not
          one who is a habitually sinful deceiver <- ALL FALSE premises
          (4107) or combination of
          TRUE and FALSE premises.
          Therefore, FALSE conclusion.
          = Fallacy, Deceiver. (822)

          example...

          Further and according to the rules of logic, which is similar as to what is in the Qur'an... if one or more of your premises from the Qur'an is FALSE, then your conclusion cannot be TRUE. All of your premises must be TRUE for you to have a TRUE conclusion. Therefore, it is quite simple; ie. if one of your premises is FALSE, then your conclusion is FALSE. Applying the rules, the deletion of two verses from the Qur'an after Allah says the Qur'an has been perfected is absolutely FALSE premises, therefore FALSE conclusion. Garbage in garbage out. I will not believe in the conclusion even if he is Muhammad (6944-47) (1015).

          The significance of clear authority

          What is with you?
          How do you make judgement?
          Then will you not be reminded?
          Or do you have a clear authority?
          (37154-156)

          These, our people, have taken besides Him deities
          Why do they not bring for them a clear authority
          And who is more unjust
          than one who invents about Allah a lie?"
          (1815)

          Or do they say
          "He has made it up"?
          (ie. the Quran)
          Rather, they do not believe
          Then let them produce a statement like it
          if they should be truthful
          Or were they created by nothing
          or were they the creators ?
          Or did they create the heavens and the earth?
          Rather, they are not certain
          Or have they the depositories of your Lord?
          Or are they the controllers ?
          Or have they a stairway upon which they listen?
          Then let their listener produce a clear authority
          (5233-3

          Peace

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            Therefore, no rambling with personal opinions or wishful thinking

            Allah said...

            That is their wishful thinking, Say,

            "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."

            So is one who
            upon a CLEAR EVIDENCE from his Lord?
            And a witness from Him follows it
            and before it was the Scripture of Moses to lead (confirming) and as mercy <- non bigotry
            Those believe in the Qur'an <- only these peoples believe in the Quran
            But whoever disbelieves in it from the factions <- bigotry, bigotism, bigotists
            the Fire is his promised destination
            So be not in doubt about it
            Indeed, it is the truth from your Lord
            but most of the people do not believe
            (1117)

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              Then, give reasons.. from the Quran.

              and please ... no rambling with personal opinions or wishful thinking,

              I'm not interested in discussing "your opinions".

              o

              Therefore, no rambling with personal opinions or wishful thinking

              Allah said...

              So is one who
              upon a CLEAR EVIDENCE from his Lord?
              And a witness from Him follows it
              and before it was the Scripture of Moses to lead (confirming) and as mercy <- non bigotry
              Those believe in the Qur'an <- only these peoples believe in the Quran
              But whoever disbelieves in it from the factions <- bigotry, bigotism, bigotists
              the Fire is his promised destination
              So be not in doubt about it
              Indeed, it is the truth from your Lord
              but most of the people do not believe
              (1117)

              o

              Therefore, no rambling with personal opinions or wishful thinking

              Allah said...

              So is one who
              upon a CLEAR EVIDENCE from his Lord?
              And a witness from Him follows it
              and before it was the Scripture of Moses to lead (confirming) and as mercy <- non bigotry
              Those believe in the Qur'an <- only these peoples believe in the Quran
              But whoever disbelieves in it from the factions <- bigotry, bigotism, bigotists
              the Fire is his promised destination
              So be not in doubt about it
              Indeed, it is the truth from your Lord
              but most of the people do not believe
              (1117)

              o

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                muslims
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                Spammer?

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                  es
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                  #8

                  Spammer?

                  Yes, I've spent two years and seven months "spamming" this forum.

                  And may God bless peace unto you too.

                  peace

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                    muslims
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                    Good for you but two years+ is not enough, maybe you should add another 50 years spamming this forum. laugh

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                      foralgerian
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                      In your very humble opinion.

                      Stop inferring to things in accordance to your own interpretation.

                      What you just wrote here makes you in an awkward position, since each and every book of tafseer is
                      Just someone's opinion.. And personal interpretation.
                      Also each imam in a mosque and each theologian (called scientist... Alim) , only express his opinion...and so it's only his interpretation...
                      And you can't stop them...

                      This is for me (another opinion) just an example of a lack of argument...
                      In the Quran it is written that we ought to listen to different interpretations, and follow the most righteous ..
                      This means , we are supposed to think and analyse and scrutinise opinions and interpretations, and not telling those who do come up with one .. To stop doing it.. Because it doesn't go we'll with your wishfull thinking...

                      Peace...

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                        Peace

                        What you just wrote here makes you in an awkward position, since each and every book of tafseer is
                        Just someone's opinion.. And personal interpretation.
                        Also each imam in a mosque and each theologian (called scientist... Alim) , only express his opinion...and so it's only his interpretation...
                        And you can't stop them...

                        This is for me (another opinion) just an example of a lack of argument...
                        In the Quran it is written that we ought to listen to different interpretations, and follow the most righteous ..
                        This means , we are supposed to think and analyse and scrutinise opinions and interpretations, and not telling those who do come up with one .. To stop doing it.. Because it doesn't go we'll with your wishfull thinking...

                        Peace...

                        I am not an awkward position nor am I in one.

                        Thanks.

                        Salaam.

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                          For you is your deen <- Sectarianism (religion), Bigotism, the Bigotists
                          and for me is my deen <- Just and balance (righteousness),
                          (109) regardless of religions/tribes etc

                          http//media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7o3yoQk0m1qhokzh.png

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