Unity Within Diversity
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It is a matter of language.
If you want to keep on being stubborn, just let it be.
And then you use this word "using fallacy doesn't prove you are right" to prove I am wrong.
Allah is an Arabic word for single God.
It is a fact. I am not making up a fact.
You also prove nothing. You just make your version of Arabic word. Funny.
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I have already presented the facts and issue, it is your turn. . . before I give my rebuttal argument.
However, this cannot be considered as a counterargument. laugh
It is a fact. I am not making up a fact.
It is a fact. I am not making up a fact. It is a fact. I am not making up a fact. It is a fact.
It is a fact. I am not making up a fact. It is a fact. I am not making up a fact. It is a fact.
It is a fact. I am not making up a fact. It is a fact. I am not making up a fact. It is a fact.Therefore, It is a fact. I am not making up a fact.
That is nagging, and I have no case to answer. Try bring me some premises. . . peace
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Because I have already presented my arguments, different arguments a countless times before. I did not resort to "X is true, therefore X is true". Instead, you are and were the one who used the same, same, same and your old arguments to prove I am wrong. You were repetitive. You can refer to my posts on this thingy back and look carefully how you presented your arguments.
You are the one who is nagging here because you are repetitive.
Okay sorry for bringing up this issue again.
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Okay, so you forgot your argument, or maybe you don't bring an argument at all. . but merely repeating "it is a fact"
This is funny, a translation issue.
It must be crazy to pronounce "God" and "god" and sounds differently. laugh
Freemind Translation
Surely your god is God
(209Facts during the revelation..
Gabriel, you say god to Muhammad
Go tell him again, it is God, not god!
But God I...
Gabriel! call me God, not god!Sounds like the trinity issue.. is it one or three gods?
Peace rotfl
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There are many English words that have different meanings when the words are capitalized.
If Quran was sent in Icelandic language, do you think the word Allah would also be used?
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Is that the answer to the following issue ? confused
Comparison within the same language, Arabic and from the Quran itself.. to determine whether Allah is God or Allah.
And your God (is) God *
(2234)<- freemind translated as , ie. same as above
your God (is) Allah **
(209Therefore, the issue is
Whetherie equal to
whereas Allah say..
this Qur'an is a clear Arabic language
(16103)In a clear Arabic language
(26195)an Arabic Qur'an
without any deviance
(392and
Could it be considered as a deviance or "not in a clear Arabic language" if is equal to ?
further
If Allah is "al Ilah".. please prove by showing where does it mention "al Ilah" in the Quran.
and
If is equal to
then what are God's names?
or
There are no names for God since God names are only meaningful words?
Note
- And for every nation We have appointed religious ceremonies, that they may mention the Name of Allah over the beast of cattle that He has given them for food. And your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God Allah), so you must submit to Him Alone (in Islam). And (O Muhammad SAW) give glad tidings to the Mukhbitin ,
** Your god is only Allah , except for whom there is no deity. He has encompassed all things in knowledge."
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Last year, I have already presented countless arguments.
You are the one that keeps repeating the same garbage
You said because in the Quran, it says "Allah Ahad, Allah Samad". I have already said because Allah is an Arabic word and Allah is translated into God in English. That's why Quran uses Allah since original Quran is in Arabic.
You said because God-god sounds the same. Because most languages are not unique like Arabic or Hebrew when it comes to differentiating the Creator from pagan gods.
In English, to refer to single deity, the g in god is capitalized.You repeated 2 arguments but use different wordings to prove that you have already presented countless different arguments. Then you hypocritically call me "nagging" to bring me down.
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Okay, I understand, you forgot or don't even make any argument, or don't even understand the issue , or make an interpretation based on other books . . you don't have to repeat that argument.
But whatever it is, your common sense doesn't make sense to me. end. laugh
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Maybe someone can explain why the word ending with "tanween" ? http//s16.postimage.org/7g525pigh/dammahtain1.jpg
What does it mean?
And your God (is) God "One"?? God
(2234)I've checked the quran site and the one with "tanween" translated as "One" God. . . without the "tanween" translated as god.
2.163, 5.73, 6.19, 6.46, 16.22, 16.51, 18.110, 21.29, 21.108, 22.34, 28.71, 28.72, 41.6, 43.84, 52.43, and 4.171
Same issue by mmkhan. . . http//s11.postimage.org/61fz5f1nz/Muhammed.png, ie. praised "One" (which I believe specifically referring to "Muhammad" alone, the praised One, not all Prophets)
the word , means praise and means praised one
Similarly . . . the word means God, and means "One" God
It is about the "attribute" or the "quality" of Allah as "One", not about "God"
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and al-Ikhlas, ending with "tanween"
Say, "He is Allah , "One" (ie. "1" as "attribute", not as number "1"
Therefore, maybe the "tanween" in is stressing on the "attribute" or the "quality" of Allah as "One" . . not Allah as "God".
This is because there are already two capitals "G"s in (2234)
And your God is One God (2.163)
and there is no "tanween" if it is merely as "God", ie. and
What a difference a Tanween Makes
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And your God is One God (2.163)
The God of mankind (114.3)
god (39.6)
god (38.65)
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Like I said I have already made arguments last year. That means on other threads. I didn't forget. You are the one who has forgotten here because you didn't remember what I said. Too much belacan eh? That stupid food.
Your common sense also doesn't make any sense to me.
Tanween? It is an invention / innovation to the Quran. It is only useful to learn how to pronounce Arabic.
Earlier Quran copies do not have tashkeels. -
Ilah is god with small g.
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your God (is) Allah **
(209your God (as subject) (is) Allah (as predicate) ?
It is impossible for the subject = predicate, can this happen ?
and there are specific terms for capital "God" (hu), ie.
there is no "tanween" if it is merely as "God", ie. and
and
Are both equal to "God"?
Two "subject", and no "predicate" ? (since it is not about attributes or qualities of Allah, ie. tanween)
I don't know, zero knowledge in arabic . . maybe the expert here can explain. end.
this Qur'an is a clear Arabic language
(16103)In a clear Arabic language
(26195)an Arabic Qur'an
without any deviance
(392 -
Like I said, English is not unique like Arabic./ Hebrew when differentiating single deity / The God and polytheistic deity / god of many gods.
It's up to you what you want to believe.
Get back to the topic Unity in Diversity.To create unity within diversity, one must not be fascist by forcing others to believe the same.
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Get back to the topic Unity in Diversity.
To create unity within diversity, one must not be fascist by forcing others to believe the same.
That's better. . laugh
I believe Muslim must interfere for others to respect all religions; ie. regardless of religions, and only when there is oppression relating to "sectarianism", ie. relating to the issue of "nature of their rituals, nature of their God or nature of their texts and belief". No dispute in these areas.
Muslim must maintain unity within diversity, unconditional freedom of religion, maintain balance and justice. . .peace and harmony in the society.
No one is allowed to disrespect other religions, criticize (fitnah) or mocking others, Allah gave unconditional freedom of religion
Allah already decreed this and it was not nullified, ie. the commands is conditional in nature.
And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you,
and fitnah is worse than killing.
And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there.
But if they fight you, then kill them.
Such is the recompense of the disbelievers. <- definition of the disbelivers, "fitnah", oppression, and vs. unity
And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Fight them until there is no fitnah and worship is for Allah .
But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression
except against the oppressors.
2191-193The issue of freedom of religion is the issue of all Prophets, and many have been killed etc. It is almost about the whole Quran.
This is the main message of the Quran, unconditional freedom of religion relating to the "nature of their rituals, nature of their God or nature of their texts and belief". No dispute at all, and as long it does not cause injustice. It is the foundation for "unity within diversity".
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And if two factions among the believers (including believers in other religions) should fight
then make settlement between the twoBut if one of them oppresses the other
then fight against the one that oppresses
until it returns to the ordinance of Allah (unity within diversity / unconditional freedom of religion)And if it returns
then make settlement between them in justice and act justly.
Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.The believers (in all religions) are but brothers
so make settlement between your brothers.
And fear Allah that you may receive mercy.O you who have believed (in unconditional freedom of religion and unity within diversity)
let not a people ridicule people
perhaps they may be better than them
nor let women ridicule women
perhaps they may be better than them
And do not insult one another
and do not call each other by nicknames
Wretched is the name of disobedience after faithAnd whoever does not repent
then it is those who are the wrongdoers (ie. those insist on the above are the Kafir, the Disbelievers)
(take note, Allah says ?Believers?, the opposite of ?Believers? is the ?Disbelievers?)O you who have believed (in unconditional freedom of religion and unity within diversity)
avoid much assumption
Indeed, some assumption is sin
And do not spy or backbite each other
Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his brother when dead?
You would detest it. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Accepting of repentance and Merciful.O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female (take note Allah is not referring to Muslim, but mankind!)
and made you peoples and tribes (therefore, the above believer are referring to all religions)
that you may know one another (unity within diversity)
Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you.
Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
499-13(Please also take note, Believers are from all religions and that?s why Muslim have big armies and can conquest many areas in short period of time. They are not preaching the Quran, they take their swords, ride their horses and establishing unconditional freedom of religion and unity within diversity. Islam or even the Sunni, the Sunnah Wal "Jamaah" starts much like a Political Party but then changed into religion. Many rituals in Islam are fake or misinterpreted and not even from the Quran. Today arabic language is not the same as the Quran arabic language, ie. the Quraish dialect and which no one speak this dialect today. Additionally, we must also remember that Islam is completed during Muhammad. Therefore, any facts before Muhammad must corroborate with the facts during Muhammad, ie. Islam in its complete system or as a whole.)
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your God (as subject) (is) Allah (as predicate) ?
It is impossible for the subject = predicate, can this happen ?
and there are specific terms for capital "God" (hu), ie.
and
Are both equal to "God"?
Two "subject", and no "predicate" ? (since it is not about attributes or qualities of Allah, ie. tanween)
I don't know, zero knowledge in arabic . . maybe the expert here can explain. end.
Just wondering if you are aware that you are mixing two languages? Why are you using laugh instead of rotfl
English Your only god is GOD
Arabic
God bless
peace
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English Your only god is GOD
Okay, I already read the translation, nothing new and the translation still sounds funny.
So, what is your point and how it answer the issue I'm pointing out in this thread ?
Or, do you understand the issue? (refer here, 1, 2, 3, 4)
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Okay, I already read the translation, nothing new and the translation still sounds funny.
So, what is your point and how it answer the issue I'm pointing out in this thread ?
Or, do you understand the issue? (refer here, 1, 2, 3, 4)
Peace muslims,
I understand the thread and what I take from it is that you are very confused and your confusion is self inflicted
due to stubbornnesshttp//i2.wp.com/personalityspirituality.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/stubbornness-hand-200.jpg?resize=
200%2C300SBut by God's leave there is room for growth. Insha'Allah we'll be witness to that occurance.
rotfl ;D
God bless
peace