Religion Islam is based upon falsehood
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Peace everyone,
I prefer a fact/evidence-based approach to theology. And in my view Al-Quran tells us everything we need to know about who/what Allah is.
The Quran suggests that Allah is the following
- The Creator of everything (see verse 3962, 4062 and 6102).
- The Sustainer of everything (see verse 754, 1031 and 2225).
- The Everlasting; That has always existed and will always exist (see verse 1123 and 288.
- The Omniscient (see verse 2225, 659, 343, 3538, 4212, 4916, 4918, 4960 and 5016).
- The Omnipotent (see verse 214.
- The Omnipresent (see verse 5016).
- The Owner of everything in the heavens and the earth (see verse 2284).
- The Only one who guides to the truth (see verse 1035).
- The Unseen and unseeable (see verse 6103).
- The Master of the believers (see verse 4711).
- The Most trustworthy (see verse 4122, 951 and 1412).
- The Light of the heavens and the earth (see verse 2445).
- The Protector of the righteous (see verse 4519).
- The Entity which is one/singular and has no partners (see verse 931, 1066, 2122, 2391 and 3422).
- The One who will resurrect human beings on the day of reckoning and reward or punish them (see verse 429, 5818, 2281 and 356).
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Ante-Nicene Fathers/Volume VIII/Pseudo-Clementine Literature/The Clementine Homilies/Homily XVI/Chapter 7
Chapter VII.?Peter Appeals to the Old Testament to Prove the Unity of God.
And Peter said ?I shall reply briefly to what you have said. The law, which frequently speaks of gods, itself says to the Jewish multitude, ?Behold, the heaven of heavens is the Lord?s thy God, with all that therein is;? implying that, even if there are gods, they are under Him, that is, under the God of the Jews. And again ?The Lord thy God, He is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath, and there is none other except Him.? And somewhere else the Scripture says to the Jewish multitude, ?The Lord your God is God of gods;? so that, even if there are gods, they are under the God of the Jews. And somewhere else the Scripture says in regard to Him, God, the great and true, who regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward, He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow.? The Scripture, in calling the God of the Jews great and true, and executing judgment, marked out the others as small, and not true. But also somewhere else the Scripture says, ?As I live, saith the Lord, there is no other God but me. I am the first, I am after this;except me there is no God.? And again ?Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.? And again ?Hear, O Israel, the Lord your God is one Lord.? And many passages besides seal with an oath that God is one, and except Him there is no God. Whence I wonder how, when so many passages testify that there is one God, you say that there are many.?
Ante-Nicene Fathers/Volume VIII/Pseudo-Clementine Literature/The Clementine Homilies/Homily XVI/Chapter 10
Chapter X.?Peter?s Explanation of the Apparent Contradictions of Scripture.
And Peter said ?They do not lead astray, but convict and bring to light the evil disposition against God which lurks like a serpent in each one. For the Scriptures lie before each one like many divers types. Each one, then, has his own disposition like wax, and examining the Scriptures and finding everything in them, he moulds his idea of God according to his wish, laying upon them, as I said, his own disposition, which is like wax. Since, then, each one finds in the Scriptures whatever opinion he wishes to have in regard to God, for this reason he, Simon, moulds from them the forms of many gods, while we moulded the form of Him who truly exists, coming to the knowledge of the true type from our own shape. For assuredly the soul within us is clothed with His image for immortality. If I abandon the parent of this soul, it also will abandon me to just judgment, making known the injustice by the very act of daring; and as coming from one who is just, it will justly abandon me; and so, as far as the soul is concerned, I shall, after punishment, be destroyed, having abandoned the help that comes from it. But if there is another god, first let him put on another form, another shape, in order that by the new shape of the body I may recognise the new god. But if he should change the shape, does he thereby change the substance of the soul? But if he should change it also, then I am no longer myself, having become another both in shape and in substance. Let him, therefore, create others, if there is another. But there is not. For if there had been, he would have created. But since he has not created, then let him, as nonexistent, leave him who is really existent. For he is nobody, except only in the opinion of Simon. I do not accept of any other god but Him alone who created me.?
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Your opinion on the bible is quite irrelevant. The Pseudo-Clementine Literature is not part of the Bible. What's important is this concept of Gods unity is documented in early christian writings (in Syriac) of 325 AD. More than two centuries older than Quran!
But then there's your friend bankwar2 who is trying to decypher the language in Quran like there are no rules and it has no semitic roots nor christian precursors to make it state something self-contradicting...
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There is no deity, no god, no entity. As is your opinion, totally irrelevant, the evidence does not exists to support the jewish/christian bible, not archeologically or scientifically, this being the case your opinion is without any support, while my assertion must be disproven, as i am not the one trying to claim the bible is truth you are.
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And in my view Al-Quran tells us everything we need to know about who/what Allah is.
The Quran suggests that Allah is the following
- The Creator of everything (see verse 3962, 4062 and 6102).
- The Sustainer of everything (see verse 754, 1031 and 2225).
- The Everlasting; That has always existed and will always exist (see verse 1123 and 288.
- The Omniscient (see verse 2225, 659, 343, 3538, 4212, 4916, 4918, 4960 and 5016).
- The Omnipotent (see verse 214.
- The Omnipresent (see verse 5016).
- The Owner of everything in the heavens and the earth (see verse 2284).
- The Only one who guides to the truth (see verse 1035).
- The Unseen and unseeable (see verse 6103).
- The Master of the believers (see verse 4711).
- The Most trustworthy (see verse 4122, 951 and 1412).
- The Light of the heavens and the earth (see verse 2445).
- The Protector of the righteous (see verse 4519).
- The Entity which is one/singular and has no partners (see verse 931, 1066, 2122, 2391 and 3422).
- The One who will resurrect human beings on the day of reckoning and reward or punish them (see verse 429, 5818, 2281 and 356).
May Allah bless you and give you security in this world/realm and in the hereafter.
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Basically, I don't care* about those who don't even accept the existence of their Creator, because I consider it as an awful denial and also, very very ungrateful mannerism.
*I mean, I don't care whether God will guide them or not.
What I think they already failed in the basic test, because even after we acknowledge the existence of our Rabb, then it does not mean we become instantly safe, there are still more tests after that acknowledgment - to test your obedience to your Rabb - the test to differentiate between the true believers and the liars.
For those who believe that God exists, please do not neglect Him. We should not forget about "taqwa". I think, sooo many people do not truly care about "taqwa".
I think many people forget/neglect these
Do the people think that they will be left because they say, "We believe" and they will not be tested?
And indeed, We tested those who were before them, and Allah will surely make evident those who are truthful, and He will surely make evident the liars.
Testimony alone is not sufficient to prove the faith.
And also don't forget 1539-40.
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Some guidelines of who may be a prophet.
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Be safe
AmenuelCould you even remain constant/fixed regarding name??
Emanuel? Amenujil? Amenuel?
I know you don't ask for money (any charge), Henrik, but it doesn't mean that you meet the other requirement.
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Peace JavaLatte,
so you do not reason clearly, you dismiss without any understanding any alternative and proclaim misconceptions simply because you are arrogant in your own delusion of a God in the sky which you support through a corrupted translation of a guide you do not grasp?
Although the shahada is a contrived combination of out of context statements it is an accurate expression of the evidence.
"There is no deity."
Therefore there is no god, no divine character, nothing to be personified, or anthropomorphized as a supreme ?being?, being a distinct entity.
So no entity, which is something having real or distinct existence, a thing considered as independent of other things, a separation distinct and independent from other things, this cannot exist, there can be nothing claimed a deity.
"There is only Allah." or "Only Allah."
Allah is a single consciousness as the absolute totality of what may exist, so the One consciousness cannot be independent of anything, all is the thought of the single consciousness; we ourselves are a fractal copy within that consciousness, forming the evolving nature of the matrix of consciousness itself.
A single Consciousness is an ?entirety? of all that is or may be; therefore it is absolutely impossible for an entity deity to exist.
An entity must be something other; but you cannot have something other with the entirety of everything.
?All religions are made up then??
Religions do not come into existence through the quality of their inherent truths, but through the capacity of the powerful to impose them with maintained ignorance, violence, and fear. Fear is very important in order to control and manipulate souls; the first thing to establish is fear, as souls that are not afraid cannot be controlled.
Once the hierarchy (the tree of death) of religions are in place many other hierarchies are either constructed or given the divine backing of religious hierarchy, and these constructs are perceived real, yet are nothing more than a fantasy invented to allow the few to dominate the many.
Religious fantasy is most needed where there is a lack of individuality, a lack of original unique thought, a mind that lacks such development tends towards fanaticism, this substitutes the excitement that experiencing unique thoughts generates, exchanged for the excitement of their obsessional focus, a psychosis that hypnotizes their mind, and can through that focus shut down the mind to all higher emotions of empathy, compassion, kindness and unconditional love, and even render wicked actions undisturbed by their conscience. The individual soul can rise to infinite heights of consciousness, but not if they choose conformity to the thoughtless multitude; to devote your mind to conform to any hierarchy of control, belief or exchange, drives consciousness ever deeper in to a state of mindlessness dominated by status and separation.
All Gods are the fantasy of either the fantasist or the fanatic, a polished vanity they present as their persona, the fantasists desire for power, and ambition, ravenously fed from the fanatics fear and cowardice, and their hypnotized perceptions.
In the perceptions of your Earthly life truth is attacked, reason ridiculed, love, compassion and empathy considered a weakness, violence glorified, hate justified, murder rationalised, theft sanctified, life monetised, in the 'worlds' of the soulless creatures, the upper-world of the soulless is dominated by thirteen elite families who are beyond any accountability, the under-world of the soulless beasts are protected by the upper-world, the commercial world of the slave souls is sandwiched between the two soulless worlds, and all the Earth suffers.
Every soul is all creation in a drop. Creation is perceptual thought; the only thing that is real is consciousness itself. This single consciousness is built fractally, repeating consciousness yet remaining one. Each new fractal consciousness begins as a simple copy, but grows through densities of perception. Each fractal form grows by embodying ever more copies of consciousness within its own consciousness as companions, fractals expand by embodying fractals, and these form the larger fractal. It?s only when a consciousness is in harmony that it may become a companion to a higher fractal form, meaning souls who are harmonised by complimentary beliefs, common aspirations and an emotional unity. If considered from the other perspective, as fractal consciousness descends in ever more compact form, so the awareness they experience is of lower densities of perception, the evolution of all fractal consciousness is to flow to higher densities of thought infinitely, as they themselves attract and embody other companion fractal consciousness, but what may evolve may also devolve. Fractals should rise upward growing in consciousness through fractal connection; these integral connections are the companions of the soul.
Each soul is unique, each drop of an infinite ocean, we are the jewels of creation each drop, we are the most cherished each drop, but within that infinite ocean each drop must grasp truth as a rudder, reason as a compass, love as a destination, sadly many souls refuse to see, hear, think, accept or evolve, and so many suffer.
organic growth in consciousness is not a set progression, each evolves in a unique way, the song is evolving not the body, every song is unique, and every soul shapes their own song. Some songs harmonise better with some souls and not so well with others, for those in harmony you can become synchronous companions; there?s no hierarchy in consciousness just variety, the very essence of all creation is infinite diversity. A soul who called himself Adams correctly stated. ?If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.? True leaders act anarchically, they are copied because their example demands it, their council is sort out, never imposed, they are the trail blazers, the truth backers, the defenders of the weak and oppressed, such a leader is a Muhammad Rasul.
The pervasive conscious ocean sings, and all other conscious fields of thought are likewise harmonic songs in synchronisation with the manifesting ever building fractal field of all conscious thought, every soul exists as a fractal form of the conscious entirety, the expression of that consciousness is thought, which can be perceived as a form of energy, all energies are simply thought, a unified field of creative thought; an infinite field of consciousness if you like. Imagine consciousness is the ocean; that is you. Imagine a single drop of that ocean is your emotional heart; that is you. Imagine conceptually an atoms worth of that drop is your perceptual mind; that is you, you contain the entire ocean in a drop, held within an infinite ocean; that is the unity of soul.
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Clearly you do not read replies, instead you take a corrupted translation as if it has merit, investigate the ancient Arabic before posting verse references without any effort to understand the original meanings yourself.
Plz enlighten my ignorance by translating the (3 words) passage in question!
I can provide more passages (against ur case) if you wish.
Ps. I do read replies,
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Investigate the meanings on your own, as whatever I say you will ignore as it would not fit in with your preconceived beliefs, it is only through a personal effort you will be able to accept what you discover, however that would take effort on your part, and i have found religious minded people want easy answers, so making effort is seldom invested, or the abilities they have are so poor they have no abilities to investigate in existence to make an effort.
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Allah is a single consciousness as the absolute totality of what may exist, so the One consciousness cannot be independent of anything, all is the thought of the single consciousness; we ourselves are a fractal copy within that consciousness, forming the evolving nature of the matrix of consciousness itself.
A single Consciousness is an ?entirety? of all that is or may be; therefore it is absolutely impossible for an entity deity to exist.
An entity must be something other; but you cannot have something other with the entirety of everything.
And what was there before human consciousness? Before the human being existed at all? And before the earth existed? Where is the sum of consciousness that you refer to? A collective consciousness that could not exist before human beings came to be?
So the universe just came into being without a creator, is that correct? Everything precisely and intricately setup, by accident and out of nothing and nothing from the perspective of nothing?
In any case, enjoy your beliefs.
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Investigate the meanings on your own, as whatever I say you will ignore as it would not fit in with your preconceived beliefs, it is only through a personal effort you will be able to accept what you discover, however that would take effort on your part, and i have found religious minded people want easy answers, so making effort is seldom invested, or the abilities they have are so poor they have no abilities to investigate in existence to make an effort.
My (current) understanding of 374 is
Surely your God is One.
If I'm wrong, then plz correct me, sir!
Ie. Why do you claim/propagate that "there is no god" according to the Quran , when the Quran clearly edifies that there is only one God ?!