[39:6] - Nothing to do with cattle
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I liked the post. Interesting observations and conclusions. Worth exploring further, especially the terminology.
Such is Allah.
For anyone without too much pathological stone character of the heart, it would be enough to study the world, like science is used for doing, and we'd quite spontaneously see the presence or reality of Allah.
Unfortunately, we've traditionally taken a very backwards, fictional, unnatural approach when thinking of The Creating Power. We make up a separate world of fantastic creatures and events, reeking from irrationality and imagination. We create an imaginary mental world which we populate with human like angles, human like gods and Hollywood like miracles. We make the religious world very unnatural, supernatural. No wonder why people deem religion, and hence also the concept of God, ludicrous and unnecessary. Religion is teaching their stuff in a way that make them seem unnecessary. Obviously, the fables become unnecessary because they're created in a separate mental realm. All we need to do, is to LOOK and PONDER, not invent fiction.
We can have Allah, and divine inspiration, and spiritual beings, without resorting to fantasy. The key is to avoid inventing things and then spreading them like false gossip. We need to remember AQ 1736 and keep an open, soft and humble heart. What ever we have of the unseen world and the seen world, they're ONE, and there can never be a conflict between them, even if we only can see part of it all. Of course we must always resist the temptation from casting the final judgement in any matters, labeling things as non-existent or final-truth, because there is always so much more to learn, know, discover and understand. Let's always keep the Big Unknown in mind. Let's not be arrogant; there's lot's we don't know. Heck, many people don't even believe in acupuncture.
The mere fact we exist should be enough reason there is Allah. But of course, if your image of God is more of the fantasy type, then it's hard to believe in, unless you apply blind faith, which is what religion is really all about. Keeping religion in mind and what it teaches, and how, one can understand why atheists reject it all.
If science clashes with religion, go with science, but watch out for the religion of science, which is altogether something else than objective and humble science. Science is often portrayed to say things it really doesn't say. We interpret it as per our wishful thinking, assumptions and preconceived opinions.
Sorry for going fftopic
Peace
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wa 'anzala lakum minal 'an-ami thama ni-yata 'azwaj;
"and He provided for you eight genes, in pairs"
NOTE The verb "anzala" means; to cause to descend; to provide. The collective noun "an'am" is used for living creatures. Here it refers to the life bearing Genes. The phrase "thama-niyata 'azwaj" means "eight-in-pairs". This is the reference to the Two Strands of DNA that are held together between the "Base Pair (bp). Each strand has the GENETIC CODE (ATGC - Adenine, Thymine, Guanine and Cytosine). They make up the bases of DNA and RNA.Peace, these don?t seem like (5) cattle?
- A (Adenine)
- T (Thymine)
- G (Guanine)
- C (Cytosine)
- U (Uracil)
DNA
- A-T
- T-A
- C-G
- G-C
RNA
- A-U
- U-A
- C-G
- G-C
The cattle 8 i.e. 4 male and female pairs?
- Sheep breeds
- Goat breeds
- Camel breeds
- Cow breeds
6142 and from the cattle burden/ride and meat of eat yeh of from what provided you the god ....
6143 octet/eight spouses/mates from the sheep twosome and from the goat twosome say the male two prohibited or the two (feminine) or what contained on it wombs the two (feminine) inform yeh me with knowledge if be you truthful
6144 and from the camel twosome and from the cow twosome say the male two prohibited or the two (feminine) ...
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Peace, these don?t seem like (5) cattle?
- A (Adenine)
- T (Thymine)
- G (Guanine)
- C (Cytosine)
- U (Uracil)
DNA
- A-T
- T-A
- C-G
- G-C
RNA
- A-U
- U-A
- C-G
- G-C
The cattle 8 i.e. 4 male and female pairs?
- Sheep breeds
- Goat breeds
- Camel breeds
- Cow breeds
6142 and from the cattle burden/ride and meat of eat yeh of from what provided you the god ....
6143 octet/eight spouses/mates from the sheep twosome and from the goat twosome say the male two prohibited or the two (feminine) or what contained on it wombs the two (feminine) inform yeh me with knowledge if be you truthful
6144 and from the camel twosome and from the cow twosome say the male two prohibited or the two (feminine) ...
Well, The pairs are still four even though Thymine is replaced by Uracil in RNA.
Regarding the cattle, we'd need to crossreference the entire quran. Perhaps a word can have more than one meaning, if the context allows for that. Perhaps the quran is indeed amazingly multilayered.
Best regards
Peace -
Well, The pairs are still four even though Thymine is replaced by Uracil in RNA.
Peace, then 6 unique pairs since C-G and G-C is same?
- A-T
- T-A
- C-G
- G-C
- A-U
- U-A
Regarding the cattle, we'd need to crossreference the entire quran. Perhaps a word can have more than one meaning, if the context allows for that. Perhaps the quran is indeed amazingly multilayered.
There are 32 references of which 2 refer to people as like cattle...
314 and the cattle and the crop/harvest
4119 so shall slit/cut they ears the cattle
51 beast the cattle
6136 the crop/harvest and the cattle
6138 and say they of this cattle and crop/harvest...
and cattle prohibited backs theirs
and cattle not mentioning name the god over it6139 and say they of what in interior of body this the cattle exclusively for males ours and impermissible on spouses/mates ours
6142 and from the cattle burden/ride and meat of
7179 surely those like the cattle rather themselves astray
1024 from what eat the humankind and the cattle
165 and the cattle creation his for you therein warmth and gains and from it thou eating
1666 and surely for you in the cattle surely lesson we give drink you from what in interior of body its from between bowels and blood milk of pure of palatable of to the drinkers
1680 and made for you from skins the cattle houses of
2054 eat yeh of and pasture yeh of cattle yours
2228 on what provided them from beast the cattle so consume/eat yeh of from it
2230 and lawful for you the cattle except what recited on you
2234 on what provided them from beast the cattle
2321 and surely for you in the cattle surely lesson we give drink you from what in interior of body theirs and for you therein gains numerous and from it thou eating
2544 surely themselves except/only like the cattle
2549 that we give life with it land dead and give drink it from what created we cattle of and humanity much of
26133 he has aided you with cattle and sons
3227 eats from it cattle theirs
3528 and from the humankind and the beasts and the cattle different the colors its
3671 created we for them from what worked hands ours cattle of
396 created you from soul (f/s) one/single (f/s) furthermore made from it spouse hers/its and descended for you from the cattle octet/eight spouses/mates he created you in interior mothers yours created of from after creation in darkness three such yours the god lord yours for him the sovereignty not deity except he so how thou turning
4079 the god the one made for you the cattle to ride yeh of from it and from it thou eating
4211 made for you from yourselves spouses/mates of and from the cattle spouses/mates of
4312 and made for you from the transport and the cattle what thou riding
4712 and the ones deny they of enjoying and eating as what eats the cattle
7933 provision of for you and for cattle yours
8032 provision of for you and for cattle yours
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6142 and from the cattle burden/ride and meat of eat yeh of from what provided you the god ....
Peace brother,
I am interested to know the red part above. How did you translate Farshan = Meat? Is there any more references in alQuraan that can be translated as meat?
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhan -
wa 'anzala lakum minal 'an-ami thama ni-yata 'azwaj;
"and He provided for you eight genes, in pairs"
NOTE The verb "anzala" means; to cause to descend; to provide. The collective noun "an'am" is used for living creatures. Here it refers to the life bearing Genes. The phrase "thama-niyata 'azwaj" means "eight-in-pairs". This is the reference to the Two Strands of DNA that are held together between the "Base Pair (bp). Each strand has the GENETIC CODE (ATGC - Adenine, Thymine, Guanine and Cytosine). They make up the bases of DNA and RNA.http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/006.%20Al%20Anaam/temp%2002%206.143.gif It is a Possessive Phrase. First noun is in accusative case. Therefore, grammatically it can be considered either as equivalent appositive to nouns used in this discourse in the previous Ayah; or a circumstantial accusative; and can be taken as object of elided verb. As equivalent appositive or circumstantial accusative, it described a subset out of Set of the Mammals. Thus the Possessive Phrase denotes that Mammals comprise of eight families, groups. This phrase is also used as the direct object of a verb in the following sentence of another Ayah 3906
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And He the Exalted has descended for you people eight families amongst the herbivore mammals.The ground reality is slightly different about the number of families in the category of quadruped herbivore Mammals. There are perhaps Nine families of herbivore Mammals. The prepositional phrase "for you people" restricts the information to only those families which are meant for us, the humanity. The ninth family of mammals is Pig family-omnivore which is prohibited for human consumption.
Word by word analysis and parsing of sentences of 6`43
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Peace, then 6 unique pairs since C-G and G-C is same?
- A-T
- T-A
- C-G
- G-C
- A-U
- U-A
Or perhaps only two pairs A-T/T-A, G-C/C-G.
In DNA, U is not used. RNA is used to read the DNA. DNA however is the storage and vessel for the genetic code.
In any case... cheers and peace -
I am interested to know the red part above. How did you translate Farshan = Meat? Is there any more references in alQuraan that can be translated as meat?
Peace mmkhan,
6142... wafarshan/and spread/meal/feast/meat of eat ye of...
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Salamun alaikum.
Thanks for sharing this nice article.
The verses of Qur'an are indeed source of infinite wisdom and perfect knowledge. We human beings have been trying to get the best wisdom from it with our limited knowledge. Our predecessors have understood the verse to imply different types of cattle - there is a certain degree of wisdom in it. With our more sophisticated "knowledge" we may be able to get a better interpretation and that could possibly give us more wisdom. But let's not be too arrogant to call our predecessors ignorant. There is absolutely no guarantee that our current knowledge is perfect - we are merely in a journey toawards better understanding. Our predecessors were "right" given their available knowledge, we are also right given our available knowledge. Just like we continue to observe nature to fine tune our understanding - we continue to research Qur'an to get more and more wisdom. Einstein would never call Newton ignorant.
Saying so, I have a slightly different idea about the exact components of Human embryogenesis that correspond to verse 396. The explanation that seems most plausible to me is that the 16 ana'm refers to the 16 cells in a "morula". Formation of morula signifies the completion of the first stage of drakness, formation of fetus is the second stage and finally childbirth signifies the end of third stage of darkness.
May Allah guide us all to the straight route.
Regards,
Arman -
Salaam,
Nun-Ayn-Miim = to lead an easy life, enjoy the comforts and conveniences of life, be joyful, comforts/delights. in'aam - beneficence, favour to a person, gifted (with speech/talent/reason etc).
na'im soft; smooth; tender; fine, powdery n. a-ufr young, youthful, tender; (sukkar) powdered sugar
an?am sorter
396 He created you (all) from a single person then created, of like nature, his mate; and he sent down for you eight head of cattle in pairs He makes you, in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness. such is Allah, your Lord and Cherisher to Him belongs (all) dominion. There is no god but He then how are ye turned away (from your true Centre)?
| - He created you| - from| - a soul| - single.| - Then| - He made| - from it| - its mate.| - And He sent down| - for you| - of| - the cattle| - eight| - kinds.| - He creates you| - in| - (the) wombs| - (of) your mothers,| - creation| - after| - after| - creation,| - in| - darkness| - three.| - That| - (is) Allah| - your Lord;| - for Him| - (is) the dominion.| - (There is) no| - god| - except| - He.| - Then how| - are you turning away?|
This ayat is referring to the development of the embryo. The translation of eight pairs of cattle in the middle of the ayat makes no sense. On the other hand, eight pairs of life giving cells makes complete sense. The sixteen cell "morula" is a well known pre embryo stage. It is after this stage that the "morula" will become a "blastocyst" which attaches itself to the uterine wall and foetal development occurs. The uterus itself consists of three layers.
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morula
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uterus
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Janet. -
Tne number of cattle has always leftme asking questions Donkeys, horses, reindeer, llamas, vicu?as, guanacos, bufaloes bisons, goats, sheep, cows...
I am glad this question is brought up, I have felta that there was more to it if only I knew well some more about biology...
It is certain that as new knowledge is acquired we cannot keep intepreting the Qur'an according to previous interprettions where they did not have the knowledge at hand now, as if because it having been said before it ws set in stone. They did not know better and did (hopefully) their best. For us it is not our best.
Salaam
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Salaam Huruf,
I completely agree with you. The interpretation of certain words completely changes the meaning of the ayat. The problem lies in translating one word in exactly the same way in every ayat which contains that word. Sometimes the meaning given for that word does not make sense in the context it's being used in. There are many such examples in the Quran.
Regards,
Janet. -
Salaam Janet
I agree with you that words can give different derived meanings depending upon context but in Arabic root meanings of a word cannot be ignored for a stand alone word. Yes words can convey different meanings when used in phrases/idioms or combination of words.
Salaam