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Nice Hp Tech. i have created a thread do we believe Allah or scientists and NASA and most people who post there do not believe in a flat earth, even if Quran says that Allah spread the earth like a carpet,there is not any mention of a round world in Quran and other scriptures say the same story. I am very happy we share the same view.
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Nice Hp Tech. i have created a thread do we believe Allah or scientists and NASA and most people who post there do not believe in a flat earth, even if Quran says that Allah spread the earth like a carpet,there is not any mention of a round world in Quran and other scriptures say the same story. I am very happy we share the same view.
RED There is no mention of flat/carpet/cubic/globe/cylindrical/pyramid/whatever shape in the quran about the shape of earth.
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RED There is no mention of flat/carpet/cubic/globe/cylindrical/pyramid/whatever shape in the quran about the shape of earth.
As devout Muslims, we have good reason to conclude the Earth is flat; the Qur'anic verses 1519, 2053, 4310, 507, 5148, 7119, 786, 7930, 8820 and 916 all clearly state this and not a single verse in the Qur'an hint to a spherical earth.
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Nice Hp Tech. i have created a thread do we believe Allah or scientists and NASA and most people who post there do not believe in a flat earth, even if Quran says that Allah spread the earth like a carpet,there is not any mention of a round world in Quran and other scriptures say the same story. I am very happy we share the same view.
By the way, if you still insist to continue your thread that discuss about FE, I suggest you to have two way discussion with HP_TECH about this issue, perhaps you both could use PM.
I think this young brother (HP_TECH) is a real/sincere scientist, and I hope you both could have good mutual discussion.
Peace.
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By the way, if you still insist to continue your thread that discuss about FE, I suggest you to have two way discussion with HP_TECH about this issue, perhaps you both could use PM.
I think this young brother (HP_TECH) is a real/sincere scientist, and I hope you both could have good mutual discussion.
Peace.
Selam,he was talking to bookish, and i do not have to discuss this with him, we share the same view. Peace
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Selam,he was talking to bookish, and i do not have to discuss this with him, we share the same view. Peace
But in my opinion, you were rather 'careless' in sharing the information about FE. I think it is good to be careful (e.g. study it carefully first) and selective if you want to share information about FE on this forum.
Don't you know that there are FE shills?
Peace.
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But in my opinion, you were rather 'careless' in sharing the information about FE. I think it is good to be careful (e.g. study it carefully first) and selective if you want to share information about FE on this forum.
Don't you know that there are FE shills?
Peace.
You know that people for many years believed in a flat earth and those people knew more about nature and astronomy than we know now. In the thread i created who do you believe Nasa and scientists or God, because i wanted to see how people use their brains and to show me what they think about this. Now i have seen many explanations, but is there any proof for what they claim? Is gravity proven? Rotation of the earth? The size of the sun and moon? And many other things that NASA says are true? I believe that NASA lies and if they say that the earth is round,than the earth might be flat.
The astronauts of the Apollo can not swear on the bible that they have been to the moon. Many people lie in a court and do not see that as a big sin, but these man even not in court will not swear on the bible. This means that they know the truth and that they know that there is a creator, a God, The God. One of the funniest things is when the journalist asks a astronaut who says to have been thru the van allen belt ' how did you penetrate the Van Allen belt and he answers We did not know about the van Allen belt, they were not discovered yet.
Mr Bean's Belts
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2FTZhyuJy8Now for the pictures of the earth, are they true? No they are not
What i think is best proof that NASA lies are the pictures from NASA that shows the continents sometimes larger and sometimes smaller. Go on their website and watch a picture freom 1978 and one from 2012.The Man Who Saw The Flat Earth Auguste Piccard
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFYiHGqshc&index=10&list=LLvAcGp9QKvlW5BgXjawaxwQA fish eye lens is one of the tricks they use to show you curvature
Fish-eye lenses create images with absurd curvature! https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnHTV4L0mA8
Now why would they use this tricks if the earth was round?Astronauts get snorkels for spacewalks, so are they in space or maybe in a pool?
So i am not careless. I have given many more proof that we are being lied to, but many just come and defend their theories about a round earth without even watching one of the videos i have linked. This says it all.
I have studied the lies and i have given proof and i also have said that other scriptures also say that the earth is flat. Why do we think that we are smarter than all other people who lived many thousands years ago? Because we have scientists? And we have TV? Actually i think that we are the most stupid people ever lived on this planet and that we believe many things that can not be true.
Why is there an arctic treaty?
Do you know what a zero g plane is?
In my opinion if you want to say something about me or my research, you should first go and research your self and than make statements that i am careless in shearing information.
Peace
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So i am not careless. I have given many more proof that we are being lied to, but many just come and defend their theories about a round earth without even watching one of the videos i have linked. This says it all.
hmm i think, u did not still sure about the science behind theory and proven fact...
I have studied the lies and i have given proof and i also have said that other scriptures also say that the earth is flat. Why do we think that we are smarter than all other people who lived many thousands years ago? Because we have scientists? And we have TV? Actually i think that we are the most stupid people ever lived on this planet and that we believe many things that can not be true.
hmm so all people are indeed studpid because earth is flat , and experiments are going in the favor of spherical..
excellent i wonder the stupid most people invented things which are condsider magical for the perosn who lived onn this planet 200 years ago... i m sure if suddenly he see the achievements of this stupid person or scientist he will think he is another world...
so the world is changed by stupids , really this information open up my mind and eyes...
we must beleive earth is flat forget about proven fact , what if quran is saying 2+2= 5 but scientist are saying no its four , we need to reject scientist.. otherwise we are stupid... but i get connfuse here becoz quran never say 2+2= 5 ... some people are confused about 4 and 5.. its not qurans fault...
peace
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hmm i think, u did not still sure about the science behind theory and proven fact...
hmm so all people are indeed studpid because earth is flat , and experiments are going in the favor of spherical..
excellent i wonder the stupid most people invented things which are condsider magical for the perosn who lived onn this planet 200 years ago... i m sure if suddenly he see the achievements of this stupid person or scientist he will think he is another world...
so the world is changed by stupids , really this information open up my mind and eyes...
we must beleive earth is flat forget about proven fact , what if quran is saying 2+2= 5 but scientist are saying no its four , we need to reject scientist.. otherwise we are stupid... but i get connfuse here becoz quran never say 2+2= 5 ... some people are confused about 4 and 5.. its not qurans fault...
peace
For someone who lives in England, you English grammar is very bad, so maybe you should go back to school and first learn English, than learn to read and response with proof and not only a few words that are not a fact nor a proof, but only your own opinion. Also again you should learn to read and i said this many times to you, i said that we are stupid for believing in our schooling system and the tv and scientists and NASA and that we should investigate and than we would know what is real and what not.
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In my opinion if you want to say something about me or my research, you should first go and research your self and than make statements that i am careless in shearing information.
I'm sorry if I made wrong opinion about you. Perhaps I should not use the world 'careless'.
I think you started that thread with a good question (the title of that thread). But, then you brought this
The earth is flat, and anyone who disputes this claim is an atheist who deserves to be punished." - Sheik Abdel-Aziz Ibn Baaz, Supreme religious authority, Saudi Arabia
I don't understand why you did that. I think it is not a good idea to put something like that to back up FE. We should not threaten people to believe FE.
Peace.
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For someone who lives in England, you English grammar is very bad, so maybe you should go back to school and first learn English, than learn to read and response with proof and not only a few words that are not a fact nor a proof, but only your own opinion. Also again you should learn to read and i said this many times to you,
you know when some body use these type pf words instead of giving their proofs and reasonings its mean they are so much frustrated and personal attacks means person is so much afraid by other side and may b have a lot of grudge against other person,, (i can understand what you feel about me) but its a place to share views.. people like you when they have nothing to prove in the end they mock on eachother and do personal attacks..which i dnt really care . peace
look at the sentence in bold here is a spelling mistake and grammer mistake , but i did not bother about it ... niether i will use this as a proof to proving your flat earth theory flase.. yeah
because simply i dnt need to ... only the players who lose the game mock on winners that what you are doing ...
you neeed to look at my posts again becoz i just arrise some very logical questions..
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FE can be discussed in designated threads.
Here we should focus on Ramadhan.
Peace allexactly
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Salam everyone.
I agree - let's limit the discussion to Ramadan. I wasn't even aware that some of us here believe that the earth is flat. Nevertheless, I respect your conclusion, and I cannot agree or disagree with you because I'm yet to do any thorough research in this area. I do understand that you have come to this conclusion after an analysis of some evidence. When time permits, I'd love to do some personal study before I can share my opinion. It's definitely something very interesting, because we take it for granted now that the earth is round and it's going round the sun. This is what I also believe in, but I'm open to questioning my beliefs. The biggest mistake we can make is to label something outright as "right" or "wrong", without any study or analysis. That's what most people I come across do.
He doesn't pray 5 times a day? Oh he's not a Muslim!
He follows only the Koran? Oh he's a crazy guy!I believe most of us can share at least one instance where someone has labelled us as "ignorant".
Peace....
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Salam everyone.
I agree - let's limit the discussion to Ramadan. I wasn't even aware that some of us here believe that the earth is flat. Nevertheless, I respect your conclusion, and I cannot agree or disagree with you because I'm yet to do any thorough research in this area. I do understand that you have come to this conclusion after an analysis of some evidence. When time permits, I'd love to do some personal study before I can share my opinion. It's definitely something very interesting, because we take it for granted now that the earth is round and it's going round the sun. This is what I also believe in, but I'm open to questioning my beliefs. The biggest mistake we can make is to label something outright as "right" or "wrong", without any study or analysis. That's what most people I come across do.
He doesn't pray 5 times a day? Oh he's not a Muslim!
He follows only the Koran? Oh he's a crazy guy!I believe most of us can share at least one instance where someone has labelled us as "ignorant".
Peace....
Wow you see Zulf this is the response of a believer! This is what Allah created us for!
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Allah created us to question our beliefs?
Peace, i am a fan of descartes reasoning, and i believe it is in parts similar to what God tells us in the quran, which is to verify everything for ourselves.. the basis of which descartes logic was
Accept as true only what is indubitable.
I am also a fan of other philosophy, including simply reflecting on the creation of God, i trust He also encourages this in the quran
peace.
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But yes, i would say question your beliefs, as we can easily be in error without realizing it. i dont think we should ever become content with our beliefs, untill the point at which we have become 100% sure of everything we think to be true, there are some things i know as a fact, and trust are true, such as that God is my lord, my soul has borne witness to this fact, and i know it is true, hence i do not need to question it.
I am not advocating doubt, i am simply advocating verification, and asking God to confirm things for us that we are unsure about, and purify us of things we are sure about which are not true
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But yes, i would say question your beliefs, as we can easily be in error without realizing it. i dont think we should ever become content with our beliefs, untill the point at which we have become 100% sure of everything we think to be true, there are some things i know as a fact, and trust are true, such as that God is my lord, my soul has borne witness to this fact, and i know it is true, hence i do not need to question it.
I am not advocating doubt, i am simply advocating verification, and asking God to confirm things for us that we are unsure about, and purify us of things we are sure about which are not true
I agree, I'm still not sure God created us for that purpose though, given our purpose seems to be clearly enough stated in 5156.
Anways, I'm sorry... offtopic