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    noble
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    Peace
    Sorry to barge in but a few in proper english means a small number less than 10, so some dudes in this thread need to revise their english
    as well as their arabic...
    now in improper english, if you want to extend a few you can say "quite a few", and that will stretch it no to more than 13/14...

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      30 days are few as compared to 365! thanks

      It says "a few" not "few". Now search in an English Arabic dictionary

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        Peace Ayman,

        Interestingly, the full-moon around the summer solstice is special because it follows a lower path across the sky compared to the rest of the year's full moons and for some reason our brains are wired to perceive such full-moons as larger than normal. In fact, not only will the full-moon seem bigger than normal, but the low-hanging full moon takes on an orange hue as a result of scattered moonlight in Earth's dusty atmosphere.

        First you say the summer solstice full moon follows the lower path across the sky. This is your so called Ramadan theory.

        The answer is that the TWO full-moons that took the LOWEST path are the full-moons BEFORE and AFTER the summer solstice. This fact is so indisputable that I don't even need to check the data through the link about. However, since you are doubting this then post the data and show me wrong.

        Then you say the TWO full moons that took the lowest path are BEFORE and AFTER the summer solstice. You just contradicted yourself. Instead of admitting the mistake you took pride in modifying your lousy theory. This is crazy, unrighteous, and hypocritical.

        Now as for ?This fact is so indisputable that I don't even need to check the data through the link about.? I will give you a challenge to determine how certain you are about the stated position. Here is the challenge DO YOU AGREE TO WITHRAW YOUR ARTICLE AND APOLOGIZE TO US IF I PROVE YOU WRONG? Just give me the word and I will provide the evidence.

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          noble
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          You mean apologize not APOLIZES surely the latter does not make sense?

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            farida
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            "Maadood" is a common word which we use in urdu every day, and there is absolutely no doubt about it that it means , "A very limited count"
            siki

            Salaaam Siki,

            As Rasulhamza pointed out 30 days are few as compared to 365! And that's a human counting not God. Just imagine how long is God's hmm
            Say "Whoever is in misguidance, then the Almighty will lead them on." Until they see what they have been promised, either the retribution or the Hour. Then they will know who is in a worst place and weaker in power.

            Isn't it Farida?

            Isn't it Siknder?

            Moreover , Rasulhamza was right in pointing out ,when you were trying to confuse ashraa, and "Shahar Ramadhan"

            I hope you don?t pick and chose his replies or ! else you can always ask your sister Samia to come up with the interpretation to your choice.

            Ashraa, means arabic number 10. and you can call 1 to 10th day of a month as ashraa ae awaal, (first 10 days),11th to 20th as ashraa ul sani, (2nd ten day period) and 21st to 30th as akhari ashraa, ( last ten days),

            Thank you for finally addressing Ashraa in Urdu/Arabic.

            It has got nothing to do with Shahar, or shahar Ramadhan

            Nothing to do with Shahar, You see no obvious common root ???? brickwall
            Whatttt . ).. that Ramadhan has nothing to with Ashraa, even if it is clearly in relation to the count of a lunar month/Shahar. yeah

            I am amazed , that with such ignorance , you are so arrogant?

            After all I am from the same country as yours '( but unlike you ;D I know the difference between being cocky and fascist or Nazi. yes

            knowing very well what "Maadood "means, you have chosen to keep quite like a hypocrite?

            Me keeping quite nope you must be joking laugh

            When some one addresses you with respect as "A SISTER" you bark at him . How do you want to be addressed...?

            Simply farida which means "unique" yes

            Let me assure you "Ramadhan as a month" is "deep" fried with you being its lawyer, and God save your clients in the real world.

            Only yesterday your friend Dr Ayman, impressed with my legal skills on this forum asked me to defend him against resourceful Saudi?s.
            That says a lot for a female lawyer?s deep frying skills. jedi
            peace

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              You mean apologize not APOLIZES surely the latter does not make sense?

              Peace, Thanks!

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                noble
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                Peace
                Ego trips aside,
                consider this

                292 Do people think that they will be left alone because they say "We believe," and will not be tested.

                293 And We indeed tested those who were before them. And All?h will certainly make (it) known (the truth
                of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars.

                So I believe one of the issues with those who love calling themselves "Muslims" today, is that they are not only
                being severely tested, but those of them who say we believe are not living up to the test and inquiring why they
                are failing it, and so helping their unfortunate so-called "brethren and followers" and themselves from a very dangerous fate.

                A proposed solution?

                1. Accept the test.

                2. Pass it (start by humbling the ego is a good start).

                3. Get Allah's support and help.

                No way around it.
                The Scholars are brainwashed, they are calling to damnation, it is a mighty test indeed.

                And if you want a little sign, here is one from yesterday
                'Lebanon's Madoff' bankrupted after bouncing $200,000 cheque to Hizbollah
                http//www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/lebanons-madoff-bankrupted-after-bouncing-200000-cheque-to-hizbollah-1783407.html

                226 Verily, All?h is not ashamed to set forth a parable even of a mosquito or so much more when it is
                bigger (or less when it is smaller) than it. And as for those who believe, they know that it is the Truth
                from their Lord, but as for those who disbelieve, they say "What did All?h intend by this parable?"
                By it He misleads many, and many He guides thereby. And He misleads thereby only those who are
                Al-F?siq?n (the rebellious, disobedient to All?h).

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                  Only those with pure hearts not locked by traditions and preconceptions can understand the great reading.

                  Talk is cheap. Hypocrites are people who say one way and do another. You are seeing the Qur?an via a polluted dictionary. Your understanding is heavily biased by the dictionary meaning. Therefore, you are locked by your traditions and preconceptions. You just don?t want to admit it.

                  If one starts from a pure heart, a clean sheet, without preconceptions then one cannot in a million years reach the sectarian calendar based on understanding the great reading.

                  You satisfy none of these criteria. Your heart is impure and your sheet is full of satanic dictionary words. Therefore, your understanding of Qur?an is off-target and misleading.

                  I admit that I am guilty of trying to find out the timing without preconceptions and based purely on earnestly seeking to understand the great reading.

                  A pure lie.

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                    noble
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                    Peace
                    Brain washing since Imam Shafie's famous fatwa to close the doors of Ijtihad, and decide that everything had to pass through Sunna and Hadith, that is about 1300 years.
                    It will take a mighty push from Allah to shake the Sectarians to let go of all these time lengthy preconceptions.
                    This is why Allah always says to His Prophets "khudhu alkitabba biquwata" "Enforce the Book with Force/Strength", in our case
                    the Quran!
                    Advice to Bro Ayman, you do not have to engage with slanderers by the way...

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                      Peace,

                      It will take a mighty push from Allah to shake the Sectarians to let go of all these time lengthy preconceptions.

                      The God does no such thing. There is no compulsion in religion. I guess we don't think alike. You should follow the Qur'an.

                      Advice to Bro Ayman, you do not have to engage with slanderers by the way...

                      Ayman is a slanderer, read Ayman reply to me (earlier post). I speak the truth and truth hurts many misguided people.

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                        Peace
                        Brain washing since Imam Shafie's famous fatwa to close the doors of Ijtihad, and decide that everything had to pass through Sunna and Hadith, that is about 1300 years.


                        Peace Brother
                        Where is provision of Ijtihaad in the Quran ?
                        Regards

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                          noble
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                          Peace,
                          in the whole of the Quran, Allah invites Believers, Unbelievers, Humans, Jinns to think and ponder about His creation, consider the fate of past Nations, all the examples, parables, challenges, even daring to produce the like of the Quran, I cannot even begin to list all the invitations to improves one's lot, to travel on the earth, to meet other people, to be productive, to understand better Allah's creation and his word (..."and let there be among you a few who will stay behind and improve their knowledge in the Deen" instead of all going into battle, and that is while the Prophet was among them!!!)... and what have you,
                          if this is not Ijtihad I wonder what is...
                          Remove those blinkers and start seeing the Truth if you ever believed!!!
                          I owe it to my Ancestor to stop this lie propagated in his name...
                          Salaam to mann yatoob

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                            Rami
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                            the fate of past Nations

                            Interesting. Not even a single fate has been discovered till now.

                            Though the Quran says that the town of Lot is apparent to the prophet and his followers from its remains.

                            Funny how the Sunni fellas don't even recognize this and are not interested! What a bunch of losers!

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                              farida
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                              Interesting. Not even a single fate has been discovered till now.

                              Though the Quran says that the town of Lot is apparent to the prophet and his followers from its remains.

                              Funny how the Sunni fellas don't even recognize this and are not interested! What a bunch of losers!

                              Hey Rami you are jumping the queue; step one is to discredit the companions of the prophet, then Mohammad and finally the Qur'an.
                              police

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                                noble
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                                o dear, paranoia, no good...
                                Peace
                                if one says that Mohamed did not have companions who helped him, they are clearly wrong, as the Quran refers to them, and the only one mentioned by name is Zaid ibn Thabet.
                                I personally believe that the closest companions i.e. Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, and Hamza's stories are real, and that there is, like the Prophet's time line a time shift in their genealogy of 20 years or more forward (i.e. their real dates of birth are more than 20 years earlier).
                                We need good forensic evidence to prove this, but of course in the state of affairs we are in, the Saudis will never allow it, as they are planning to destroy evidence, if they haven't already done so...
                                To go back to the topic of this thread, the Quran can and must be the criterion because Allah says so, so it has nothing to do with anything else.
                                Mohamed is but a human, and he did die, he could have died in one of the battles with the believers, and the Message would still have held (look for the ayat).
                                Trying to immortalise him with his hadiths and his way of life is like deifying him, it is a grave sin.
                                As Allah said do not distinguish between any of the Prophets, why him, why not Yssah or Moussah or Daoud, Yussef, we do have hadiths about them in the Bible...
                                Ayman has got a big ego too, but he has got it right about ramadan...
                                (I disagree with him on hajj as for me it is to be held in the 1st temple (of the rock) in Jerusalem, I disagree with him on jinns as they are beings and not fantasies as he claims, and Angels are beings too) but I agree with the fact that Mecca is a pagan place of abomination and that the rituals are pagan...

                                Peace

                                Nabster

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                                  farida
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                                  Peace
                                  Ego trips aside,
                                  consider this
                                  Reply #1510 on September 06, 2009, 012355 AM pg 101
                                  ......But he does take risks, and is not paid for what he does. With many of us acting out of fear of the unknown just to defend our status quo, ..... If your grave accusations are correct, you will still need to provide proof, i.e. e.g. that he is on the pay roll of some
                                  dark agencies.

                                  Salaam brother Nabil & everyone

                                  I cannot provide a proof that Dr Ayman is working for money on this forum as I would need to access his account details and obviously I can?t do that. However, using Ayman?s favourate term, I can ?empirically verify? that someone is financially compensating Dr Ayman for devoting all his working time, writing in this forum.

                                  From my last years experience on this topic I learned that prolific posting on this forum was as time consuming as a full time job. This year I planned it in such a way that I had my time off work incorporated into the month of Ramadan when I took on this ?jihad?.

                                  Since I came back on this forum from August 16, 2009, and till today, despite not doing my regular work, I still have neglected my family who are quite irritated to see me absorbed in confronting the A-team. Ayman, as compared to me, has been far more prolific than I and has written many more replies to all and sundry, and on more than one topic.

                                  Given the need to support his family, which we know he has, and his high flying lifestyle, beside his full time dedication to this forum, conducting a veritable Guerilla Blog-fare, where can he possibly find the time to go out and earn a living? Unless he is from among the Jinn it simply is not feasible (A lecture here or there will not provide a living).

                                  The repeated reminder from Team Ayman of looming bankruptcy reflects their own fear of what must come if they lose out; I think that Farida's "dark agency" accusations are probably the funniest and most bankrupt argument (= bankrupting Ayman) September 06, 2009, 083300 PM
                                  He has consistently been jumping from one subject to another, like a squirrel in heat, and when defeated he bawls If you are truthful then prove from your investigation of the great reading that Ramadan is the 9th month of a lunar calendar.And so it goes on and on, in circles, like the ripples in a lake where the fish are jumping.

                                  He challenged us several time about the uses of the crescent moons, as per 2189, to time the "hajj". I guarantee that you will NEVER be able to answer. Which is off list since I shamed him with my answer. He is in denial of anything that refers to AH (after Hijri)...
                                  Then (out of frustration) he stoops to name calling; eg The Sunnis is as lost as you. Reply #1224 on August 27, 2009,

                                  And seeing he has lost his argument he turns to projection, claiming we (rather than he) are panicking Peace Farida and everyone who is having a panic attack as a result of the indisputable fact Reply #1261 on August 30, 2009,... Why in the world would we panic?! Who is paying us? The Saudi perhaps for cursing Abu Huraira ?!

                                  Now please make a note of what NunHolidayPseudoEidRex said I have to focus on work, like you have to fly around and this stuff is taking too much time going in circles. Last Edit September 06, 2009, 102536 AM by NunHolidayPseudoEidRex ?

                                  Have you ever heard Ayman expressing frustration at losing out on work with all the time devoted to this forum. Please give me just one such example- anyone?
                                  In between Got to go catch a plane will reply to others later. on September 04, 2009, 013204 AM
                                  He is back on the forum within hours or as he landed on September 04, 2009, 111809 PM

                                  Now would all this clear circumstantial evidence change your view of Ayman?
                                  I think not,; I see this trend in all his followers who, despite all the convincing arguments shut their eyes, including out casting the blind. Not big ego but Ayman has got a lucrative job, and he is absolutely wrong about ramadan...This is brainwash.
                                  We have quite a few like Ayman; an MQM leader A. Hussein is one example, not much different from Al Zawahri or Osama. He was banned from Pakistan yet he is controlling the population of Karachi from the UK via internet. bravo

                                  I do feel that you are sincere in your search for the truth and I pray to God to lead us to the right path of those He favoured not the path of those who went astray.
                                  peace

                                  Ps I remember you saying this I am in his blood line (a direct descendant) on both my father and mother side, via Hassan, and Ali + Fatima. For me, it is a genealogy family tree matter
                                  You must be pleased to know that now your family lineage goes back to the Prince of Hira and not poor Ali bravo

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                                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                    Peace Brother
                                    Where is provision of Ijtihaad in the Quran ?
                                    Regards

                                    4724 Do they not reflect on the Quran? Or are there locks on their minds?

                                    4725 Surely, those who reverted back, after the guidance has been made clear to them, the devil has enticed them and led them on.

                                    5417 We made the Quran easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?
                                    5422 We made the Quran easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?
                                    5432 We made the Quran easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?
                                    5440 We made the Quran easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?

                                    Which fatwa will you follow - God's or shafii's? hmm

                                    Ayman, as we have told you before, Madoodat Means Counted...It Does Not Mean 3-10 nor 30 nor 100...it does not mean few, as well...Simply, COUNTED.

                                    Makes sense, but what does 'few' mean then?

                                    I will get my undestand/not understand list up in a few days (ayyaman madoodatin (?)), illa an yasha Allah.

                                    Peace

                                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                      4724 Do they not reflect on the Quran? Or are there locks on their minds?

                                      4725 Surely, those who reverted back, after the guidance has been made clear to them, the devil has enticed them and led them on.

                                      5417 We made the Quran easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?
                                      5422 We made the Quran easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?
                                      5432 We made the Quran easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?
                                      5440 We made the Quran easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?

                                      Which fatwa will you follow - God's or shafii's? hmm

                                      Makes sense, but what does 'few' mean then?

                                      I will get my undestand/not understand list up in a few days (ayyaman madoodatin (?)), illa an yasha Allah.

                                      Peace

                                      Peace
                                      Would you please define ijtihaad ? So that we should know what are we talking about ?
                                      Regards

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                                        Rami
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                                        OK. To those who accept the traditional Ramadan, what is your position regarding other controversial issues like the restricted months, the hajj, the Salat etc??

                                        Do you accept the traditional formulas too??

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                                          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                          OK. To those who accept the traditional Ramadan, what is your position regarding other controversial issues like the restricted months, the hajj, the Salat etc??

                                          Do you accept the traditional formulas too??

                                          Hajj is to be done in the 4 restricted months, which are consecutive (12th-3rd month). Let's not go off topic with salat - I will tell you one thing though the traditional salat is idolatry.

                                          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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