Alif-Lam-Miim
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Salaam,
Hamza is an invented letter.
It is named alif and it can have a (madda) marker on it to mark that the letter should be treated independently instead of as a modifier/affix.
Salaam
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Hello,
I totally agree with you now that we can't confirm how the original recitation of Quran was, we have many versions in Quran so it clearly has changed. Thank you for make me think about it this point .
If "" from the root " " and not " ", is it possible that every time " " mentioned in Quran it would be from the root " ", intersting how this gonna change alot of meanings.
salam,
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Salaam,
The difference it would make is that instead of innately meaning perceive relate it would be conscious relate . They would remain a bit similar, but it would be very much a cognitive process than perception.
and have similarities, but they are not the same.
Also, would collide with the root which is from = Conscious Relate Thereof. is also its own root to mean consolation or what would complete/satisfy your mind by the word unspecified agent. is also a little like that except that the agent has already given that consolation so that the mind is complete.
So no, you can by no means substitute for . It would make a different word.
Salaam
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Salaam,
The difference it would make is that instead of innately meaning perceive relate it would be conscious relate . They would remain a bit similar, but it would be very much a cognitive process than perception.
and have similarities, but they are not the same.
Also, would collide with the root which is from = Conscious Relate Thereof. is also its own root to mean consolation or what would complete/satisfy your mind by the word unspecified agent. is also a little like that except that the agent has already given that consolation so that the mind is complete.
So no, you can by no means substitute for . It would make a different word.
Salaam
Hello,
Thank you for clear explanation, but what about that rule? If it is used in Quran, it could be used to "" as well. As in "" some times it is a plural of "" and some times " " depending on the other words in the verse.
Salam,
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Salaam,
To just discuss a little what I wrote in the previous post about the DIFFERENT (root) words and before I address your new question.
Both words need an external agent, given by context or reflexive within the word such in the full word to form an substantiated object noun albeit this one has also need for reference from the context of application. in Quran refers to all the moral lessons it teaches, the spiritual guidance and thus taught perception, whereas the root (without noun suffix) refers to give perception (guidance) to someone. This is the reason for the classical since it refers to a spiritual session with a person who can guide, i.e teach guidance.
If you do not believe me about you can always read Lane's Lexicon where the root has the meaning of follow something closely. This is the consequential effect when is applied to a subject. If you can perceive, then you know what to follow. It is simple logic.
The classical praying birds in Quran are not really praying but they are consciously following each other. There is a misconception because sectarians have wished to invent a meaning the word does not have. You see, the birds are following guidance, i.e. the leader bird in the formation. The same we humans are supposed to follow the guiding leader (GOD) and if we can guide others then we shall do so, but we must remember a blind man cannot guide another blind man. First you need to be able to know what the GOD phenomenon is and have yourself perception/guidance from GOD before you can guide your neighbor or otherwise you fill the blind leading another blind parable (it is actually Jesus' parable).
If we move over to . This is what makes the soul whole ( refers to the completed state) and the adhesion letter is suggesting that it needs contextual reference. God's grace (ى is something which is something like it, i.e giving consolation for the soul/mind (wholess).
I consider an erroneous scribe work. The right form is . It was only used to help with their idea of pronunciation.
I am also investigating about . I consider that there is a dog been put in a grave here (Swedish saying for when something is fishy). This word can only occur in plural according to traditional (women). I doubt the is supposed to be there originally. It is just a hoax to make it look like the alef is supposed to be independent to give a specific root, but it is fake. It is used to look down on you women. I consider it to be a form of . I have no clear answer at this time for but I am working. Most likely it refers to people who show spiritual potential and this is the theory I have right now. The ending in the word is supposed to be a grammatical function as is customary when a word has an ending alef (only). Can you give any suggestion what it may mean if means "spiritual integrity" taking your knowledge of Arabic by nativity?
Salaam
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Salaam,
To just discuss a little what I wrote in the previous post about the DIFFERENT (root) words and before I address your new question.
Both words need an external agent, given by context or reflexive within the word such in the full word to form an substantiated object noun albeit this one has also need for reference from the context of application. in Quran refers to all the moral lessons it teaches, the spiritual guidance and thus taught perception, whereas the root (without noun suffix) refers to give perception (guidance) to someone. This is the reason for the classical since it refers to a spiritual session with a person who can guide, i.e teach guidance.
If you do not believe me about you can always read Lane's Lexicon where the root has the meaning of follow something closely. This is the consequential effect when is applied to a subject. If you can perceive, then you know what to follow. It is simple logic.
The classical praying birds in Quran are not really praying but they are consciously following each other. There is a misconception because sectarians have wished to invent a meaning the word does not have. You see, the birds are following guidance, i.e. the leader bird in the formation. The same we humans are supposed to follow the guiding leader (GOD) and if we can guide others then we shall do so, but we must remember a blind man cannot guide another blind man. First you need to be able to know what the GOD phenomenon is and have yourself perception/guidance from GOD before you can guide your neighbor or otherwise you fill the blind leading another blind parable (it is actually Jesus' parable).
If we move over to . This is what makes the soul whole ( refers to the completed state) and the adhesion letter is suggesting that it needs contextual reference. God's grace (ى is something which is something like it, i.e giving consolation for the soul/mind (wholess).
I consider an erroneous scribe work. The right form is . It was only used to help with their idea of pronunciation.
I am also investigating about . I consider that there is a dog been put in a grave here (Swedish saying for when something is fishy). This word can only occur in plural according to traditional (women). I doubt the is supposed to be there originally. It is just a hoax to make it look like the alef is supposed to be independent to give a specific root, but it is fake. It is used to look down on you women. I consider it to be a form of . I have no clear answer at this time for but I am working. Most likely it refers to people who show spiritual potential and this is the theory I have right now. The ending in the word is supposed to be a grammatical function as is customary when a word has an ending alef (only). Can you give any suggestion what it may mean if means "spiritual integrity" taking your knowledge of Arabic by nativity?
Salaam
Hello Man of Faith,
I greatly appreciate your effort in explanation of things, thank you for that. I got the differences clearly. Praying birds made the meaning even more logical.
For the word "", i got back to Ala'in lexicon and i found these 2 words "" & "", with emphasized "" in "".
The word "" in general refers to anything that is later than other things within the same type or kind, for the man who is always do things later than others or the latest , the word would be "" and " " with emphasized "" in "". Another meaning is thrust or space, "" is the stick because people use it to thrust things from the way, "" is a noun which means paying late.
The word "" has this definition , to be i did not get the exact meaning, but it is explained further as quick going to get the water, it also means the fast inducing and the source for this meaning is "", its derivatives would be " " with emphasized "" in all of them. Human effort or labour would be "", the first "" is emphasized. The word " " means fast flying. For meat, if it is overcooked and its flavour has gone they say "" with emphasized "". The most related meaning to spirituality is " ", it refers to the remnants of the thing, originally used for the remnants of the soul, e.g. saying " " which means he is nothing but his remnants of his soul OR he has gone or ended except the remnants of his soul. This word is new to me so i tried to write as much as possible about it from the lexicon.
I also can remember the word "" or " " which means someone very familiar and intimate whith someone, or someone whose his company is happy, intimate, peaceful and reassured. It is from another lexicon.
This is regarding the Classic Arabic. In my dialect "sudanese" i can count some words that they may derived from "". The word "" means joyful or familiar conversation. A person who is easily could make familiar conversations with people may refer to "" with emphasized "". the word "" means rouse or provoke " a verb means talking to someone secretely to suborn him to do bad thing or do something against someone else or gossip". Women called "" or "". In Arabic gulf dialect, in general "" means "joyful time", also the word "" or Auns. This all what i can remeber for now, if i remembered another word i'll let you know about it.
Getting back to the word "", it could be a plural of woman "traditionaly" or a plural of "", "" or "". For "", it may have a of plural as in " " or fia'al. so if you apply this weight to "", you could get the plural "". I did not find in Ala'in lexicon yet. May be there are other roots which could be a single form of "", so far this is what i got.
Regards,
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Man of Faith,
Also there is a meaning of "", which means "" or impure milk, it also means unfaithful.
Salam,
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Salaam,
Hamza is an invented letter.
Salaam
Not true, would humbly suggest to please read discussion of "Alif" in Lane, few times to clarify your concepts. Alif or Hamza can and is part of roots.
As regards word Salat, there is nothing at all in root Sad Lam Waw, that points that it means to closely follow all that is ordained. This concept of so called Quranist is nothing more than a concept based upon conjuncture. Akin to most concepts of tradionalist having no real basis in the language.
Regards,
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Salaam,
You can check a dictionary and you will see that indeed has that connotation. It is in Lane's. It is not conjecture, but the ritual associated... that is conjecture on the other hand.
I am still not convinced that several instances of alif in words are supposed to form the root. is one example. Alif is usually a grammatical letter. Its innate meaning is simply 'be'. is rather formed from and of the root .
There are just two versions of alif, and , but the letter is still called alif even if it has a madda on it. It just marks the letter should be treated independently and be emphasized upon. The rest was made to help pronunciation and later ideas on how to decipher the language.
Salaam