Modern (Re) Take on: Life after Life
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Scientific community now start to seriously probe on the "Consciousness Survivability after Death" through Near Death Experiences..
But unfortunately, none reported seeing; Grim Reaper, Jesus, Muhammad, Osiris, Munkar and Nakir..From
http//www.medicaldaily.com/life-after-life-near-death-experiences-suggest-consciousness-continues-beyond-death-306443Houston, we have a problem. While medical schools teach doctors you only have five minutes after your heart stops before your brain is damaged, this is not precisely true; some people have been clinically dead for longer than that, yet their brains survive intact. A new study of cardiac arrest patients indicates that 46 percent had memories of the time during which they were clinically dead, while two percent could explicitly recall seeing and hearing events related to their resuscitation. These results, the researchers say, suggest consciousness is present beyond the point at which scientists can detect it. Our minds, then, may be separate from our brains.
Many people believe in the moment of death, when the heart stops beating, when breathing ends, and when the brain stops functioning due to a lack of blood (and oxygen) flow. However, since the 1960s, doctors have used modern CPR methods to restart the heart, allowing people to go beyond this traditional threshold of death. Thousands, if not millions of people now have been known to regain consciousness after the moment of death, and in response scientists believe your brain cells don?t immediately disintegrate when the brain no longer functions, but it may take time, possibly hours, until all the individual neurons die.
In the current study, Dr. Sam Parnia designed and conducted the AWARE study ? AWAreness during REsuscitation ? in order to iron out some of these issues. In particular, Parnia wanted to understand the quality of oxygen getting into the brain in order to improve resuscitation techniques, while also exploring the many different reports of those who were revived following cardiac arrest (CA). The four-year observational study used a three-stage interview process by which the researchers tested the accuracy of claims of visual and auditory awareness/memories during cardiac arrest and then objectively verified these claims.
Among 2,060 people who experienced cardiac arrest, 330 survived and of these survivors 140 reported at least partial awareness at the time of resuscitation. Nearly half (46 percent) had memories with seven major themes fear; animals/plants; bright light; violence/persecution; deja-vu; family; and recalling events post-cardiac arrest. Two percent described awareness with explicit recall of seeing and hearing actual events related to their resuscitation.
In a panel discussion at the New York Academy of Sciences, Sam Parnia noted that he?s resuscitated ?hundreds, if not more,? patients, and cardiac arrest is very well understood. ?Zero blood is getting into their brain, and it does stop functioning within seconds,? he explained. However, the data suggest that ?so-called out of body experiences cannot be defined as hallucination,? he said, adding that consciousness ?disappears from the general view,? with doctors unable to detect any signs of it following clinical death.
Dr. Mary Neal, a member of the panel discussion, believes these after life experiences are not simple recollection. ?It is qualitatively different type of memory,? said Neal, who drowned in a kayak accident, remaining underwater for up to 30 minutes. This experience, she said, of being dead is not the same as, say, her unforgettable memory of the day her son was killed.
Dr. Peter Fenwick, another member of the panel as well as a neuropsychiatrist, believes out of body experiences are very common, and have been recorded throughout the world and also throughout time. (Some believe one in 20 people will have an out of body experience in their lifetime.) During cardiac arrest, the brain is not functioning; however, many people have come out of their body to perceive what is going on around them. ?This suggests the mind and brain can separate,? Fenwick stated. Some death-survivors, he noted, report hearing conversation taking place in another room, while others see not only the tops and sides of their body but also the bottom as well. Considering these experiences, Fenwick believes they may have entered a five-dimensional reality.
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It is good thay science can prove this. Not that I think it helps many critics of another dimension though. They are too stubborn about the thinking inside the box.
There are cases where patients have been proclaimed clinically dead (braindead) over extensive periods and then miraculously woken up again. There were even situations when someone was put into the grave and woke up in there.
It is this transition or dissolution I am looking forward to, when I can leave the flesh and not return to it. I could commit suicide, but I am "blocked" from doing so even if I want. To permanently get to leave the flesh will be a relief, unless I am given a new one...
Salaam
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But where in Quran Allah says that right after getting out of body we will start seeing Prophet Muhammad and malaikat al maut?
The biologists my sis works with now have second thought about inactivity of brain being the sign of total death. They are currently heavily interested on the findings of Konstantin G. Korotkov who photographed humans' energy fields during death. They are studying his papers. His pics showed that the first thing that head and brain are the first to become inactive. The last things that become inactive are the heart and groin. His reports also show some more weird things like accidental deaths leave the souls confused for which they return to their bodies after some days. I didn't get to research it. I will do it when I have time. The topic leaves me a bit uneasy -\
peace
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Peace everyone,
Please also watch videos on past life recollections in very young children, regression hypnosis, and astral projection or conscious out of body experiences. There are hundreds of videos on YouTube and lot of scientific research articles on these topics. Anyone can master astral projection or conscious out of body experience, in which you can experience exactly what people experience in near death experience, while still alive! Past life vivid recollections in very young children (more than 2500 documented scientifically studied cases) and regression hypnosis are other proofs of life after life, and existence of a spiritual body that survives death with all memories intact.
Quite a few people with near death experiences have seen a blue being (being of blue light) after they "died", and while they were seeing it, the thought came to them that it was the angel of death. Usually they experience floating through a tunnel (like the Dr. Who tunnel) with light at the end and the blue being guiding them towards the end. After coming out of the end they can see their body while hovering high above it and can see and hear things around it. Sometimes they meet other beings also who are their deceased relatives. They then meet a being of white light and are told it's not their time and they whoosh back into their bodies. You can experience the same thing by astral projection any time!
Google these topics and watch the YouTube videos!
For a start, watch this video about the blue angel of death experienced by multiple people
https//m.youtube.com/watch?v=AqK6Cxb4YWM
3-Year-Old Remembers Past Life & Identifies His Murderer
https//m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWyHuN1G1vk
Scientific documentary on young children past life recollections
https//m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir9Xs1Q9T5g
Peace
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Ner death experiences are not necessarily what is after death. Those peole have come back from others considering them dead, they have not been dead, really dead.I consider those studies and those experiences interesting but I do not consider them indication of anything concerning actual, real death. And memories of other lives I do not think there is proof of their being the same person in another life. sharing knowledge on things means just that youhave knowledge of things, or even feelings no proof that you are the a person who existed in another time or another world who died and that you are born again as the same-another person.
Salaam
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There are people who have been really dead dead that came back to life once again. They were clinically dead, i.e. their brain had been dead for X amount of minutes and the heart stopped beating. If these people who were dead with no brain activity they ought not to have any memory to report when they wake up, by conventional science.
I have not yet confirmed through Quran about reincarnation. It is an ongoing search.
Salaam
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The problem is that these 'evidence' are not good enough. They often have flaws. Near-death experience does not really prove anything about the afterlife. Afterlife is not anything we will ever be able to prove because it is not something 'physical'. All we know so far is that once the brain stops functioning at brain death, consciousness fails to survive and ceases to exist. If we were to act materialistic then we might as well deny the existance of an afterlife as we deny anything being spiritual. I think that atheists have a point when they say that the afterlife is exactly like it was before you were born and that this life could be considered an afterlife.
Personally I believe in an afterlife as well as in a God. I just don't see any Abrahamic religion letalone any other religion to have that God and afterlife I believe in. Neither do I believe that by disbelieving in God you'll miss an afterlife. That's just stupid. Religious people are not superior nor inferior. It is not their belief in God that matters but rather that they do good for others and this applies to anybody.
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Peace
Qoran explains death and after death.
The question is no longer do I have a soul?I am a soul and I have a garment which is my body.
When I die just means when my body will no longer exist. Me the soul, will return to the Creator.
My Creator will then resurrects me in another "body". It does not mean I will be human again. The new body would be of a different form.
Just like my first creation was different and in another world/dimension,before I was made human to inhabit this earth, my next life will be in a new form and a new world/dimension. The Creator decides when and how.
GOD bless you.
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Well, the works here are not to get to another world but rather get free of the shackles of the world and find the spirit. Those who manage will be worldless, or not attached to a specific world but not bound to any physical barriers.
The point is neither to believe in some (Pagan) god but be realized in that spirit as a matter of assimilation. Think of the Borg in Star Trek if you have been blessed seeing that motion picture science fiction. The mainframe is GOD. "Unclouded" nodes are interconnected with the mainframe, those who have found their true selves and reconnected with the mainframe. Consider that a modern parable.
Salaam
Salaan
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Peace Man Of Faith.
Nevertheless GOD says we will be resurrected and judged. including those who "find their spirit" like you put it. Hence a new form/a new dimension for this meeting with the Creator,called the "day of judgement".
GOD will settle the disputes. GOD will apply justice for all.
Shall we treat the "Muslimeen" like the "Mujrimeen"?
What is wrong with your logic?
Do you have another book to uphold?
In it, do you find anything you want?Films aside, this will be the reality.
While we are all entitled to our beliefs, GOD s guidance and HIS( no gender...) message leads us to the truth.
Our reasoning must be based on justice, integrity and knowledge of GOD s message, not fabrications, rumors and conjecture.
Otherwise, sooner or later we will be exposed and our efforts will go to waste"... GOD thus cites analogies for the truth and falsehood. As for the foam, it goes to waste, while that which benefits the people stays close to the ground. God thus cites the analogies.
GOD bless you.
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You cannot be resurrected when you do not die. Only those who are dead die.
Salaam
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Peace Man Of Faith.
I get what you are saying. Do you get what I am saying.
"Resurrected" just means brought back in a different form in a different world/dimension...
We will come back again to face the Creator altogether on that particular day,and move on...
GOD bless you.
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Do you get what I am writing? Can you be resurrected when you never die?
Salaam
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Peace Man of faith.
Since you are repeating your question/statement, I refer you to my last post.
GOD bless you.
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The problem is that these 'evidence' are not good enough. They often have flaws. Near-death experience does not really prove anything about the afterlife. Afterlife is not anything we will ever be able to prove because it is not something 'physical'.
Well the 'evidences' are based on 'testimony'... thus purely 'subjective'.
It might not tell exactly what might happened but certainly it's an insight on what might not happened.. (e.g. meeting Muhammad, Jesus, Osiris, Munkar / Nakir, asked about what do you think about the Bible, Quran etc..)And none of those 'testimony' sounds 'fishy' as in carrying certain agenda... (e.g. meeting Jesus, Muhammad asked about what you think about Quran/Bible/Egyptian Book Of The Dead etc..)
All we know so far is that once the brain stops functioning at brain death, consciousness fails to survive and ceases to exist.
Well based on the above 'testimony' it seems to be not the case..
Consciousness survive even after the death of the brain..
Thus it might also means, there's consciousness even before the brain is turned on...
Which put forward the question; how does the brain and consciousness really communicate with each others..I find the "Blind woman could see" during her "near death experience" as the most interesting...
I think that atheists have a point when they say that the afterlife is exactly like it was before you were born and that this life could be considered an afterlife.
Interesting.. yes they do have a point..
This life is an afterlife of the previous life.
Thus the proper name should not be "Life after Death" but "Life after Life"..Personally I believe in an afterlife as well as in a God. I just don't see any Abrahamic religion letalone any other religion to have that God and afterlife I believe in. Neither do I believe that by disbelieving in God you'll miss an afterlife. That's just stupid. Religious people are not superior nor inferior.
Certainly, and please remember the fact that Abraham never invented any religion.
As shown on the above, the believe or disbelieve in God or what do you think about certain figure or even a book doesn't really matter..
From my POV, religion always take advantage of 'human curiosity in after life' and came up with (ridiculous) explanation that suits the objective of certain parties... mostly the Priest / Cleric class or the King/Sultan.
Example (Ancient) Egyptian believe that they need a holy book ("Book Of The Dead" in order to survive from "Grave Torture" and gained a "happy afterlife" (in later evolution of such religion it's known as "Salvation". The holy book can be bought from the priest for a fee...
It is not their belief in God that matters but rather that they do good for others and this applies to anybody.
Definitely true...
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Near-death experience does not really prove anything about the afterlife.
Almost same like my opinion in this. I think near death experience does not prove anything about the afterlife.
near death death
near death = basically still alive
I do have faith that Who can put me in this world also can put me in whatever place He wants.
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Good logic,
And I refer to mine.
Salaam
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Peace Man Of Faith.
Fine, I will refer you to Qoran which says GOD will summon us altogether on that day.
So of course there are those who do not believe and those who believe in meeting the Lord
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Those who do not expect to meet us said, "If only the angels could come down to us, or we could see our Lord (we would then believe)!" Indeed, they have committed a gross arrogance, and have produced a gross blasphemy.2522
The day they see the angels, it will not be good news for the guilty; they will say, "Now, we are irreversibly confined."2523
We will look at all the works they have done, and render them null and void.2524
The dwellers of Paradise are far better on that day; they will hear better news.Brother, it will be a difficult day for some. Let us hope and pray for GOD s mercy then
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The heaven will break apart, into masses of clouds, and the angels will descend in multitudes.2526
All sovereignty on that day belongs to the Most Gracious. For the disbelievers, it will be a difficult day.Looking forward to that day brother.I sincerely hope we both have some good news and meet in favourable conditions.
GOD bless you.
Peace.