Hafs & Warsh Quran prints, variants in texts, please post your best examples
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Salaam,
That is bad. I actually think the version without HUWA (Warsh) is the correct account. The HUWA may be there because it was required grammatically to reinforce the literary model that GOD is a distinctly separate entity as their hoax became weak otherwise in the context. Quran does teach the Unity (ahad) in GOD (Allah) of which everyone serves who knows themselves and not a separate Pagan idol called Allah.
However, the missing HUWA could be a scribe error as well, but it appears deliberate and the addition of HUWA adds a different interpretive possibility. It is important to notice that the Arabic frequently says "An Allah " in the end of passages, teaching the traits to be assimilated by a person who accepts the Unity of Allah (Allahu ahad). Quran has a nice mode of teaching for those who grasp how it teaches and what actually is the phenomenon called Allah. Allah is not a personal address for GOD but a collective unity whereas 'Rabb' (Platform, Sustainer) is the actual personal address which can be discovered if one notices that Allah is NEVER used with 'ya' (personal address prefix) and used in plural (because it is a collective unity) while 'Rabb' is multiple times used with the 'ya', e.g. "ya Rabb" and counted singular.
Allah/Elah literary means a person who is a particular way as a way of an image. It, Allah , morphologically means "Be As It" reflecting prophet Moses encounter with GOD who told its the nature "I am who am I". Allah/Elah is a third person version of that argument with the final actually a third person suffix and the Arabic root Alif-Lam-Lam, the same as the AL article (prefix) uses. So it is "is as it" literally for Elah, three letters Alif Lam + ha .
That non-separate nature of GOD has been knowledge for millennia, but Pagan sectarianism has always twisted that information.
Salaam
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Peace free minds
I read layths paper on "which Quran", excellent scholarly work, thank you layth
Using only the Hafs & Warsh Quran prints
Are there any other verses between the 2, where actual full words are missing/added
Layths example of Surah 5724 were in Hafs in reads "Allaha HUWA alghaniyu"
In the Warsh the "HUWA" is not there
Please post any other verses were actual WORDS are missing/added, like the "HUWA" example layth pointed to
Peace, thank you free minds members
Peace, sometimes it's best to parse exact same phrase for consistency...
2264 for him what in the heavens and what in the earth and surely the god surely he the ample the praiseworthy
3126 to god what in the heavens and the earth surely the god he the ample the praiseworthy
3515 O you the humankind are you the poor to the god and the god he the ample the praiseworthy
5724 the ones stingy and they directing the humankind in the stinginess and from/whom turns away so surely the god he the ample the praiseworthy
606 indeed be for you among them an example best it to from/whom be hopeful the god and the day the last and from/whom turns away so surely the god he the ample the praiseworthy
Likewise it's clearly written in one of the oldest manuscripts MA VI 165
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607061.msg359818#msg359818
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Peace of The Lord Jesus Christ be upon you all
I was a former quranist, you can see some of my previous posts which I pray you'll disregard now, as I and the entire heavens are under the feet of Jesus Christ, and I retract all the defence of the Quran my hands put forward. I had no idea what Christians believed until I started studying, I pray you all will, at least learn the religion of Christianity properly, with a clean heart & mind, no pre-conceived notions.
This Hafs & Warsh issue is 1 of my top 10 reasons why I left Islam
From a Sunni perspective, they accept both transmissions as "SAHIH", Quran verses and Hadith are both graded in the Sunni religion, based on riwayah, isnad etc...
From the Quraniyoon perspective this issue of the Quran being perfectly preserved by Allah does not work, even for Sunnis by default, it's not true either, most Muslims don't even know this problem exists.
I can say that being a former quranist, I believe that you guys (hadith rejectors) are much more knowledgeable then your average Muslim, but it doesn't work.
The fact is, basically the grand mufti of Saudi, in charge of the king fahd Quran complex in medina was able to over power Allah, and allow 2 variants of the Quran to be printed by his will.
The moment you see 2 variants, in print, being memorised and recited and accepted, with no way to know truly what exactly was allegedly sent down, the whole concept is destroyed
Allah does not exist, Saudi mufti proved to be more powerful then him
Jesus Christ is King of Kings, Lord of Lords
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You do not think there are scribe errors and deliberate changes in the Biblical Gospels? You surely are wholly.
Quran speaks of the same topic as the Biblical Gospels and complements the teachings in a wider scripture. Despite containing errors it transmits the message very clearly enough for a wise man to learn from it. The interpreters and scribes chose to manipulate Quran in another manner through the interpretation primarily instead of changing the letters perhaps because the Quran was already memorized by a lot of talented people and there were multiple Qurans in circulation. There are more original transcripts out there and I say that Kufic script is the most accurate and I have read two pages from a Quran which is from the 8th century in Esfahan, Iran, and it lacks most diacritical marks. Very old Qurans seem all to lack those marks. Apart from this I visited an ancient mausoleum with gravestones carrying inscriptions from the same time which were Arabic quotes from Quran and they all lack diacritics. This was in a very remote part of Iran, southwest of Yazd with few archeological investigations carried out.
The problem is that Quran was hijacked some time upon history and corrupted by interpreters and scribes into transmitting what it does not say while the original Arabic script says something else without having been altered. The interpreters did use a doctrine of their own to find innocent victims of Arabic words which they dogmatically chose to mean something that they do not really mean. It does not mean that Quran is not a divinely inspired scripture because it is. The language of Quran had likely fallen into oblivion or interpreted by a foreign nations (Persians perhaps?) because the scribes hardly knew what it said because sentences are cut in awkward places and often cut in the middle of a clause which no one would do even if they segment a sentence.
The Biblical Gospels have also fallen victim to malicious interpreters since the Christian clergy impose another message than they transmit if you wholeheartedly read and study it.
Allah exists if you are in Allah otherwise the Platform (Rabb) is in the Unity (wahed) itself. Anyone with the right mind can exist in that Unity and Jesus was not exclusively there. He said himself anyone is welcome and he gave guidance on how. In the Biblical Gospels Moses can be seen as in the Unity when the disciples foolishly offer him a tent.
You cannot say Jesus is the King since Jesus acknowledged the Lord (Rabb) is everyone's Master. He himself clarifies in the same text the true account. But he said he is IN the Father which is very different and "on the right side".
Salaam
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Peace.
I was a former quranist, you can see some of my previous posts which I pray you'll disregard now, as I and the entire heavens are under the feet of Jesus Christ, and I retract all the defence of the Quran my hands put forward. I had no idea what Christians believed until I started studying, I pray you all will, at least learn the religion of Christianity properly, with a clean heart & mind, no pre-conceived notions.
May I know, what is your path before you become 'quranist'?
Do you follow the Bible now?
This Hafs & Warsh issue is 1 of my top 10 reasons why I left Islam
And the other 9 reasons are?
Perhaps you could tell us about the other reasons.
From a Sunni perspective, they accept both transmissions as "SAHIH", Quran verses and Hadith are both graded in the Sunni religion, based on riwayah, isnad etc...
I still not go deep into this Hafs & Warsh issue, but it seems your posts (and your deviation) made me interested to know more about it.
The fact is, basically the grand mufti of Saudi, in charge of the king fahd Quran complex in medina was able to over power Allah, and allow 2 variants of the Quran to be printed by his will.
Red Still not verify this info myself. However, if it happened, then (in my opinion) it means Allah lets it happened, most likely as part of our tests.
The moment you see 2 variants, in print, being memorised and recited and accepted,
Have you see and verify all of those things by yourself?
Or maybe you know about that by reading some articles?
with no way to know truly what exactly was allegedly sent down, the whole concept is destroyed
If it is true that both versions exist and spread, and if we have faith that the authenticity of the Qur'an is guarded by Allah, then logically, one of the two versions is false, and the question is, which one is the original version?
Maybe it's possible that... in this world, there are fake versions of "the Qur'an", alongside the original version.
My family have some Qur'an printings, I checked five, and I think they are Hafs version.
Allah does not exist,
How you could come to that conclusion??
That's strange to say that, because to my knowledge, the Christians also believe that Allah exists.
Saudi mufti proved to be more powerful then him
Of course not.
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Peace of The Lord Jesus Christ on you javalatte
Your responses made me pleased, thank you
I was a practising, praying, fasting etc... Sunni salafi Muslim, upon Quran and Sunnah, I'll get a list of other reasons I left Islam done, especially for you later, if Jesus Christ wills.
If allah let 2 variants, to be printed, recited, memorised, accepted by billions of Muslims around the world, what was the point of him saying he'll protect it, surah 159? Also note, nowhere in that verse does he say he'll protect the "quran", the word is "dhikr". Sunnis accept this verse to be protection of the quran, sunnah, and all the rituals and practises they do today.
I have seen the 2 variants and verified it. I owned a Hafs and I purchased the physical, hard copy of the Warsh, king fahd quran complex print. You can buy the Warsh from amazon for ?11, I'll send you the link if you like, its from a sunni book shop called daral taqwa. Praise be to Jesus Christ, I was also able to get ahold of a "hybrid" version as we'll, from Istanbul, layth was true when he mentioned this as well in his article! So there are 3 being printed, only 2 from medina. Here's an online link you can see the Warsh, even though I saw this, I still wanted the hard copy, so there was no doubt in mind. https//archive.org/details/HOLY-quran--BOOK--pdf--musshaf-warsh-MP3QURAN.NET
It's a huge mess, the muqatta'at in Hafs are treated as individual ayahs, in the Warsh they form part of an ayah. I asked sheikh assim al hakeem about this, including missing words between the 2, he told me "it is of no importance whether the muqatta'at are separate ayahs or parts of an ayah!" He also told me when I presented the missing "HUWA" in Warsh, in surah 5724, he said "BOTH ARE SAHIH" like a hadith!
I don't know what allah is, allah of the quran, is the same as shiva, krishna, buddha etc... Names of false gods people have named. Arab Christians do sometimes say allah, but understand they don't mean allah of the Quran, allah is simply al ilah "the god", in arabic, it's only a language issue, we do not worship the same god, nor do we acknowledge him.
There is only ONE GOD and his eternal proper name for ever is YAHWEH, muhammad never preached in the name of this God, neither is he mentioned in the Quran. Understandably muhammad didn't know this name, because by this time in history, the Jews avoided using this divine name in fear, instead they would say "Adonai" "rabb" in Arabic meaning lord or they would say "Hashem" "bismi" in Arabic, meaning the name, so you can see how muhammad was exposed here, praise be to Jesus Christ. If he was getting "divine" revelations he would have known "YAHWEH", he went on oral tradition, whatever he heard around him, and in his own head.
Think about it, all the prophets and messengers preached in the name of "YAHWEH", muhammad comes along, claiming he's a prophet of the same God, but didn't even know his name, you can see clearly this man was exposed.
I believe in only the bible, please don't listen to muslims or any one else about the christian belief, if you want to know more about Christianity please message me.
allah of the Quran thought we believed in 3 separate gods, allah, Mary and Jesus!
allah had no idea what Christians believe, he had no idea about the trinity, he thought we believed allah has sex with Mary, and they had an offspring Jesus.God forgive me for such blasphemy! My sister in humanity, I beg you in the name of Jesus Christ, please watch these 2 playlists, to see how ignorant the author of the Quran was about Jesus, the Christian doctrine and the blessed trinity
https//youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCE5248DBA28C1316
https//m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBC61599C4D704677
Jesus Christ is King of Kings, Lord of Lords! Amen!
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peace Nonmushrik,
Your lack of response to Nun's post smacks of intellectual dishonesty or perhaps emotional reasoning (based on your zealous praising of Jesus).
You said
It's a huge mess, the muqatta'at in Hafs are treated as individual ayahs, in the Warsh they form part of an ayah.
If that is your example of "huge mess" then this alleged objection is tantamount to saying this post of mine, if it were not separated by line spaces, would be a "huge mess". I consider this nonsensical, and therefore I cannot take your objection seriously.
Example of alleged "huge mess"
peace Nonmushrik,
Your lack of response to Nun's post smacks of intellectual dishonesty or perhaps emotional reasoning (based on your zealous praising of Jesus).
You saidIt's a huge mess, the muqatta'at in Hafs are treated as individual ayahs, in the Warsh they form part of an ayah.
If that is your example of "huge mess" then this alleged objection is tantamount to saying this post of mine, if it were not separated by line spaces, would be a "huge mess". I consider this nonsensical, and therefore I cannot take your objection seriously.
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Peace wakas, if you've read layths paper properly, you'll see the mass chaos between the 2 variants, unless you haven't, then i would assume, you don't really care about the differences, and you keep telling yourself "the quran is perfectly preserved, there's only 1 Quran"
That illustration I gave of the muqatta'at was only one example, if you really think about it, it really is messy.
The point was that it creates doubt in the scripture and how/what exactly was revealed, what order, how to understand it etc... So you do not know for sure whether allahs intention was to reveal "Alif lam meem" as an independent ayah, or was allahs intention to reveal "Alif lam meem" as part of an ayah.
So, here's a question to you, because your Muslim, and I am eager to see your reply.
Q. What's the first ayah of surah baqarah?
Here's another question
Q. What's the first ayah of surah maida?
Seems a very simple question, like, what's the first letter of the alphabet? What's the first day of the week? No one would answer A & B and Monday and Tuesday, Sunnis of course will because it's all SAHIH!
Surah 5 ayah 1 in Hafs reads "allaha yahkumu ma yuridu"
In the Warsh you know wakas very we'll, that "allaha yahkumu ma yuridu" is in the 2nd ayah, giving a different law property, which even layth agreed.
1 more question,
Q. What's the 1st ayah of surah fathia?
I didn't bother replying to noon, because it's mere conjecture, he's having to decide himself what the Quran means, and put his own mind into it, because he can't accept that maybe the quran is false. I'm not attacking you noon, it's only because wakas bought you up.
if allah promised to protect the quran, how exactly? As a kafir I just have to sit back and see how that "promise" panned out. It didn't, so it false.
Imagine I say, "I'm a prophet, go down the road, you'll see a BIG sign saying NONMUSHRIK is a prophet"
You get there, there's no sign saying anything, hence I'm a false prophet, end of.
Peace.
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Peace Nonmushrik.
While you are right in pointing the various differences in various "Mushafs", We know now why and when that happened.
We also have a verifier thanks to GOD s preserved original tablet. We know which "Mushaf" is the original!
I suppose the question should be what is and where is the original copy of the Qoran?
Here is an example of an error of printing/writing
http//submission.org/verify_examples_of_errors_in_printings_of_Quran.htmlWho are we to believe ? Can we really find out what really happened?
Here is a version
http//submission.org/verify_writing_of_Quran_and_the_timing_of_the_mathematical_miracle.htmlKeep researching, do not be hasty in your choice,apply { 1736}
GOD bless you.
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if allah promised to protect the quran, how exactly? As a kafir I just have to sit back and see how that "promise" panned out. It didn't, so it false.
Man whatever happened to that glorious christian achievement of humility , modesty and so on.
There is another answet to the conundrum you put up, and it is that you are blind.
So why are you here? You get kicks out of slandering the Qur'an and the Prophets or do you hope to save us?
If it is the first, you are dirtying yourself and nothing else. If it is the latter, the way you go about it is anything but commendable. You should raise the good points of whatever you are selling, and do not lower yourself to blackening others, such as the Prophet and the muslims treating us like we are idiots.
Your Lord Jesus has certainly not made out of you an example one would like to follow.
Salaam
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peace Nonmushrik,
Rather than jumping to other points, let us begin with your faulty premise. You have said for example "allah promised to protect the quran" but that is not what is stated in Quran.
Perhaps you should first begin by accurately stating the claim of Quran with regard to preservation, THEN cite your STRONGEST several examples that invalidate this claim AND state how they contradict/disprove the claim.
It's a really simple request.
I have studied this topic actually and the so-called discrepancies cited are negligible with regard to the message. And that is not even taking into account whether a systematic approach can clear up these so-called discrepancies, such as the cross-reference method Nun demonstrated. Layth's article does not cover that aspect, and to my knowledge this has never been done.
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Peace NON MUSHRIK
Those who stay in glass houses should not throw stones at other's houses.
You have gone too deep in the HAFS and WARSH version of the Quran (both flawless and unambiguous) but forgot to SEE your cherished BIBLE through the lens of LOGIC.
The Bible speaks about the creation of the universe. In the beginning, 1st Book, Book of Genesis, 1st Ch., it is mentioned - It says? ?Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth, in six days and talks about a evening and a morning, referring to a 24 - hour day. Today scientists tell us, that the universe cannot be created in a 24 hour period of six days. Qur?an too speaks about six ?ayyams?. The Arabic word singular is ?yaum? plural is ?ayyam?. It can either mean a day of 24 hours, or it is a very long period, an ?yaum?, an epoch. Scientists say we have no objection in agreeing that the universe - it could have been created in 6 very long periods.
Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,??Light was created on the first day.? Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19? ?The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day?. How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day - later than the light which came into existence on the first day? - It is unscientific.
Further, the, Bible says Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13? ?Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day?
Genesis, Ch. No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says? ?Earth was created on the third day.? Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses 14 to 19 says??The Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.? Today science tells us? ?Earth is part of the parent body? the sun.? It cannot come into existence before the sun ? It is unscientific.
The Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No. 11 to 13??The vegetation, the herbs the shrubs, the trees - they were created on the 3rd day And the Sun, Genesis, Ch. No. 1, Verses. 14 to 19, was created on the 4th day. How can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight, and how can they survive without sunlight ?
The Bible says in Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses No.16, that??God created two lights the greater light, the Sun to rule the day, and the lesser light the Moon, to rule the night. The actual translation, if you go to the Hebrew text, it is ?lamps???Lamps having lights of its own.? And that you will come to know better, if you read both the Verses ? Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse. 16, as well as 17. Verse No.17 says??And Almighty God placed them in the firmament, to give light to the earth? To give light to the earth.? Indicating, that Sun and the Moon has its own light - which is in contradiction with established scientific knowledge that we have. There are certain people who try and reconciliate, and say that the six days mentioned in the Bible, it actually refers to epocs - like the Qur?an long periods - not six, 24 hour day. It is illogical - you read in the Bible, evening, morning - It clearly states 24 hours, it indicates. But even if I use the concordance approach - no problem. I agree with your illogical argument - Yet they will only be able to solve the 1st scientific error of 6 days creation, and second, of first day ?light? and 3rd day ?earth.? The remaining four, yet they cannot solve. Some further say that? ?If it is a 24-hour period, why cannot the vegetables survive for one 24 hour day without sunlight?? I say ?Fine - If you say that the vegetables were created before the sun, and can survive for one 24-hour day, I have got no objection. But you cannot say the days mentioned are 24 hours as well as epochs - You cannot have the cake and eat it, both. If you say it is long period, you solve Point No.1 and 3, the remaining 4 are yet there. If you say the days are 24 hours day, you solve only Point No.5 - the remaining 5 are yet there - It becomes unscientific. I leave it to NON MUSHRIK whether he wants to say? ?It is long period?, and say that there are only 4 scientific errors - or say? ?It is a 24 hour day?, and say there is only 5 scientific errors in the creation of the universe.
Regarding the concept of Earth, there are various Scientists who have described? ?How will the world end.? Hypothesis - Some may be right, some may be wrong. But either the world will perish or the world will live forever. Both cannot take place simultaneously ? It is unscientific. But this is exactly what the Bible says. It is mentioned in the Bible, in the book of Hebrews, Ch. No.1 Verses No.10 and 11, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.102, Verse No.25 and 26, that??Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth, and they will perish.? Exactly opposite is mentioned in the book of Ecclesiastics, Ch. No.1, Verse No.4, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.78, Verse No.69, that? ?The earth will abide forever.? I leave it to NON MUSHRIK to choose which of the two Verses are unscientific - the first pair or the second pair. One has to be unscientific - Both cannot take place. The world cannot abide forever as well as perish ? It is unscientific.
Regarding ?the Heavens?, the Bible says in Job, Ch. 26, Verse 11, that??The pillars of the Heaven will tremble.? Qur?an says in Surah Luqman, Ch. 31, Verse No.10, that??The Heavens are without any pillars - Don`t you see? Don?t you see the Heavens are without any pillars? - Bible says heaven have got pillars.
Not only do the Heavens have got pillars - Bible says in the first book of Samuel, Ch. No.2 Verses No.8, as well as the book of Job Ch. No.9, Verse No.6, and the book of Psalms Ch. No.75, Verse No.3, that? ?Even the earth have got pillars.?
In the field of ?Diet and Nutrition? lets analyse, what does the Bible say. The Bible says in the book of Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No.29, that? ?God has given you all the herbs bearing seeds, the trees bearing fruits - those that bear seed, as meat for you.? New International Version says? ?The seed bearing plants, and the trees bearing fruits bearing seeds are food for you, all of them.? Today, even a layman knows that there are several poisonous plants like wild berries, stritchi, datura, plants containing alkaloid, polyander, bacaipoid - that which if you ingest, if you eat there are high possibilities you may die. How come the Creator of the universe and the human beings, does not know, that if you have these plants, you will die. I hope NON MUSHRIK does not give these vegetarian diet to his friends and relatives.
The Bible has a scientific test how to identify a true believer. It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 - It says that? ?There will be signs for true believers and among the signs - In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents - And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed - And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.? This is a scientific test - In scientific terminology, it is known as the ?confirmatory test? for a true Christian believer. In the past 10 years of my life, I have personally interacted with thousands of Christians, including missionaries - I have not come across a single Christian, who has passed this confirmatory test of the Bible. I have not come across a single Christian who took poison - I have not come across any who took poison, and who has not died. And in scientific terminology, this is also called as the ?falsification test? That means if a false person tries and does this test? takes poison, he will die. And a false person will not dare attempt this test - If you are not a true Christian believer, you will not dare attempt this test. Because you try and attempt the falsification test, you will fail. So a person who is not a true Christian believer, will never attempt this test.
What does the Bible say regarding ?Hydrology?? Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.9, Verse No.13 to 17, that? ?After God, at the time of Noah submerged the world by flood, and after the flood? subsided, He said? ?I put up a rainbow in the sky as a promise to the humankind never to submerge the world again, by water. To the unscientific person it may be quite good? ?Oh rainbow is a sign of Almighty God, never to submerge the world by flood again.? But today we know very well, that rainbow is due to the refraction of sunlight, with rain or mist. Surely there must have been thousands of rainbows before the time of Noah, peace be upon him. To say it was not there before Noah?s time you have to assume that the law of refraction did not exist - which is unscientific.?
In the field of medicine, the Bible says in the book of Leveticus, Ch. No.14, Verse No.49 to 53 - it gives a novel way for disinfecting a house from plague of leprosy? disinfecting a house from plague of leprosy. It says that? ?Take two birds, kill one bird, take wood, scale it - and the other living bird, dip it in water? and under running water - later on sprinkle the house 7 times with it. Sprinkle the house with blood to disinfect against plague of leprosy? You know blood is a good media of germs, bacteria, as well as toxin -
It is mentioned in the book of Leveticus, Ch. No.12, Verse No.1 to 5, and we know medically, that after a mother gives birth to a child, the post-partal period, it is unhygienic. To say it is ?unclean?, Religiously - I have got no objection. But Leviticus, Ch. No.12 Verse No.1 to 5, says that? ?After a woman gives birth to a male child, she will be unclean for 7 days, and the period of uncleanliness will continue for 33 days more. If she gives birth to a female child, she will be unclean for two weeks, and the period of uncleanliness will continue for 66 days. In short, if a woman gives birth to a male child? ?a son?, she is unclean for 40 days. If she gives birth to a female child? ?a daughter?, she is unclean for 80 days. I would like NON MUSHRIK to explain to me scientifically, how come a woman remains unclean for double the period, if she gives birth to a female child, as compared to a male child.
The Bible also has a very good test for adultery - How to come to know a woman has committed adultery. In the book of Numbers, Ch. no.5 Verse No..11 to 31, I?ll just say in brief, it says that? ?The priest should take holy water in a vessel, take dust from the floor, and put it into the vessel - And that is the bitter water ?And after cursing it, give it to the woman And if the woman has committed adultery, after she drinks it, the curse will enter her body, the stomach will swell, the thigh will rot, and she shall be cursed by the people. If the woman has not committed adultery, she will remain clean and she will bear the seed. A novel method of identifying whether a woman has committed adultery or not. You know today in the world, there are thousands of cases pending in different parts of the world, in different courts of law - only on the assumption that someone has alleged that a woman has committed adultery Why the Christian courts do not use this biblical method to confirm adultery/
NON MUSHRIK convince me that your BIBLE is authored by GOD, then I will leave Quran and follow your nonsense Bible. There are loads and loads of tremors for you in the waiting. I need answers from you and if you are a true Christian then you will reply me otherwise if you are staying in a glass house then be careful/
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